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Post by Ravenchamp on Oct 27, 2013 8:08:48 GMT -5
American-Jewish billionaire blasts Obama over negotiations with Tehran; says US should show Iran nuclear capabilities. NEW YORK – During a panel at Yeshiva University on Tuesday evening, Sheldon Adelson, noted businessman and owner of the newspaper Israel Hayom, suggested that the US should use nuclear weapons on Iran to impose its demands from a position of strength. Asked by moderator Rabbi Shmuley Boteach whether the US should negotiate with Iran if it were to cease its uranium enrichment program, Adelson retorted, “What are we going to negotiate about?” www.jpost.com/Diplomacy-and-Politics/Adelson-US-should-drop-atomic-bomb-on-Iran-329641
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Post by Deleted on Oct 27, 2013 10:12:19 GMT -5
And what would be the point of this?
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Post by Deleted on Oct 27, 2013 11:29:03 GMT -5
The whole Mid-east is a no-win situation. Iran can't really threaten us....if they ever did attack US troops or citizens, we'd level them. And they know it.
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Post by Moses on Oct 27, 2013 11:30:18 GMT -5
American-Jewish billionaire blasts Obama over negotiations with Tehran; says US should show Iran nuclear capabilities. NEW YORK – During a panel at Yeshiva University on Tuesday evening, Sheldon Adelson, noted businessman and owner of the newspaper Israel Hayom, suggested that the US should use nuclear weapons on Iran to impose its demands from a position of strength. Asked by moderator Rabbi Shmuley Boteach whether the US should negotiate with Iran if it were to cease its uranium enrichment program, Adelson retorted, “What are we going to negotiate about?” www.jpost.com/Diplomacy-and-Politics/Adelson-US-should-drop-atomic-bomb-on-Iran-329641Well that's nice he thinks that. Personally I think it's a stupid idea. I guess since he's a billionaire we peons need to jump and pay attention.
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Post by Evil Yoda on Oct 27, 2013 12:00:59 GMT -5
No, thanks, Adelson. Now sit down and shut up, 'kay?
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Post by niamhaine on Oct 27, 2013 13:15:11 GMT -5
Perhaps Mr. Adelson should pump some more of his resources into Israel so they can take that giant leap for mankind (no slam intended at Israel, just Mr. Adelson). It really irritates me when something threatening happens in the world in current times and all of the European news reports are screaming headlines of "Let's wait to see what the US does." continually. Please, feel free to be first stepping up to the plate for a change. Geographically, I do believe you are a bit closer to this threat.
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Post by Moses on Oct 27, 2013 13:18:29 GMT -5
Perhaps Mr. Adelson should pump some more of his resources into Israel so they can take that giant leap for mankind (no slam intended at Israel, just Mr. Adelson). It really irritates me when something threatening happens in the world in current times and all of the European news reports are screaming headlines of "Let's wait to see what the US does." continually. Please, feel free to be first stepping up to the plate for a change. Geographically, I do believe you are a bit closer to this threat. We put ourselves in the position to be the answer to the Middle East. I don't see the Europeans screaming about what a Uruguay might do .
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Post by niamhaine on Oct 27, 2013 13:30:01 GMT -5
Perhaps Mr. Adelson should pump some more of his resources into Israel so they can take that giant leap for mankind (no slam intended at Israel, just Mr. Adelson). It really irritates me when something threatening happens in the world in current times and all of the European news reports are screaming headlines of "Let's wait to see what the US does." continually. Please, feel free to be first stepping up to the plate for a change. Geographically, I do believe you are a bit closer to this threat. We put ourselves in the position to be the answer to the Middle East. I don't see the Europeans screaming about what a Uruguay might do . It's not just in the Middle East, two prime examples right off the top of my head are the Haitian and Japanese disasters. Those folks needed immediate help, get off your behinds and get there! Although I do agree we need to extract ourselves from the Middle East. Sadly, we're in too deep at this point.
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Post by Moses on Oct 27, 2013 13:55:25 GMT -5
We put ourselves in the position to be the answer to the Middle East. I don't see the Europeans screaming about what a Uruguay might do . It's not just in the Middle East, two prime examples right off the top of my head are the Haitian and Japanese disasters. Those folks needed immediate help, get off your behinds and get there! Although I do agree we need to extract ourselves from the Middle East. Sadly, we're in too deep at this point. I don't think we're in too deep. It just takes a wake up call. Like, what the heck are we trying to accomplish? The fact there is no clear vision of victory should tell any person of intelligence this is a very bad "war". The disasters you mentioned are real and immediate.
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Post by Evil Yoda on Oct 27, 2013 14:09:48 GMT -5
Perhaps Mr. Adelson should pump some more of his resources into Israel so they can take that giant leap for mankind (no slam intended at Israel, just Mr. Adelson). It really irritates me when something threatening happens in the world in current times and all of the European news reports are screaming headlines of "Let's wait to see what the US does." continually. Please, feel free to be first stepping up to the plate for a change. Geographically, I do believe you are a bit closer to this threat. We put ourselves in the position to be the answer to the Middle East. I don't see the Europeans screaming about what a Uruguay might do . Many Middle Eastern countries have energy, which we need. Uruguay has little we need and nothing we need as badly as we need energy. This is also true of Europe, which needs energy as badly as we do (though not as much because of population size and land area).
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Post by Foggy Dewhurst on Oct 27, 2013 14:24:24 GMT -5
I wish we would just get out of the middle east period. Support Israel, but that's as far as it goes..
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Post by Moses on Oct 27, 2013 14:26:55 GMT -5
"Uruguay" was an example.
We dont need the amount of energy we use. Haha that came out funny. But until people realize this endless usage of free and easy energy for fun and games and toys has a steep price, including wars and pollution, nothing will change.
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Post by Moses on Oct 27, 2013 14:27:38 GMT -5
I wish we would just get out of the middle east period. Support Israel, but that's as far as it goes.. I don't get why we should support Israel.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 27, 2013 14:38:50 GMT -5
RC I hope you do not support this suggestion.
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Post by Ravenchamp on Oct 27, 2013 14:40:07 GMT -5
Israel is our friend and Allie, they deserve our support.
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Post by Moses on Oct 27, 2013 14:41:27 GMT -5
Israel is our friend and Allie, they deserve our support. Israel is a boob and we are their bra!
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Post by Ravenchamp on Oct 27, 2013 14:41:30 GMT -5
RC I hope you do not support this suggestion. Only if they attack Israel or any other US interest with chemical or nuclear weapons, then I support a nuclear strike on Iran without flinching.
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Post by Moses on Oct 27, 2013 14:43:03 GMT -5
RC I hope you do not support this suggestion. Only if they attack Israel or any other US interest with chemical or nuclear weapons, then I support a nuclear strike on Iran without flinching. I flinch. Just a terrible thing to say so callously.
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Post by Ravenchamp on Oct 27, 2013 14:43:37 GMT -5
Just my honest opinion
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Post by Moses on Oct 27, 2013 15:02:48 GMT -5
No it's not. It's terrible to wish such awful ramifications on anyone. Surely you realize the millions of innocents in those countries. Deep down your humanity would reject such shallow and callous wishes on human beings.
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Post by Ravenchamp on Oct 27, 2013 15:09:46 GMT -5
No it's not. It's terrible to wish such awful ramifications on anyone. Surely you realize the millions of innocents in those countries. Deep down your humanity would reject such shallow and callous wishes on human beings. Don't start, I said my peace and meant it, now leave it alone. I support any atomic strike on an enemy if it's deserved, to hell with the innocents involved, Japan didn't care nor should we IF we have to act again.
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Post by Moses on Oct 27, 2013 15:15:42 GMT -5
Yeah I'd be defensive too.
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Post by Evil Yoda on Oct 27, 2013 15:44:57 GMT -5
"Uruguay" was an example. We dont need the amount of energy we use. Haha that came out funny. But until people realize this endless usage of free and easy energy for fun and games and toys has a steep price, including wars and pollution, nothing will change. Exactly what energy do we use that we don't need to use? As I said earlier, no strategy that involves losing creature comforts people have grown accustomed to is going to get much traction. Tell people they can't have air conditioning, and they will dismiss you. And so on. To work, a strategy must be realistic, not idealistic.
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Post by Evil Yoda on Oct 27, 2013 15:48:20 GMT -5
Israel is our friend and Allie, they deserve our support. I disagree. They produce more things of value to the world than most (perhaps all) Arab countries, but they do that for themselves, not for us. What they mostly export to us is problems.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 27, 2013 18:48:45 GMT -5
RC I hope you do not support this suggestion. Only if they attack Israel or any other US interest with chemical or nuclear weapons, then I support a nuclear strike on Iran without flinching. I support the destruction of their government 100% if they attack. Nuking....well, that's too far....I can't imagine using nukes on other humans unless they nuke us first....not that its any worse to die by bullets....just that using a nuke could start WWIII.
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