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Post by Ranger John on Aug 15, 2014 20:50:11 GMT -5
Yahoo! News/APTo be perfectly clear - this shooting needs to be THOROUGHLY investigated by an INDEPENDENT investigator. But we do now seem to have an explanation as to why Brown might have freaked out when he was stopped by the police - perhaps even trying to get into the police car to go after the officer's weapon. And, as Dorian Johnson was apparently present at the robbery, it also calls into question his account of the shooting. Once again we're seeing why it doesn't pay to just jump to conclusions and buy into the early story lines about what happened in these types of incidents.
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Post by Moses on Aug 15, 2014 20:52:15 GMT -5
Shame on you ranger john for not including the very next paragraph!!!!!!!!!!
Police Chief Thomas Jackson said the officer did not know the teen was a robbery suspect at the time of the shooting and stopped Michael Brown and a companion "because they were walking down the middle of the street blocking traffic."
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Post by Deleted on Aug 15, 2014 20:54:24 GMT -5
Yahoo! News/APTo be perfectly clear - this shooting needs to be THOROUGHLY investigated by an INDEPENDENT investigator. But we do now seem to have an explanation as to why Brown might have freaked out when he was stopped by the police - perhaps even trying to get into the police car to go after the officer's weapon. And, as Dorian Johnson was apparently present at the robbery, it also calls into question his account of the shooting. Once again we're seeing why it doesn't pay to just jump to conclusions and buy into the early story lines about what happened in these types of incidents. I heard the same. Regardless the behavior of the looters cannot be excused. |
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Post by Moses on Aug 15, 2014 21:00:49 GMT -5
Why is the status of this case so important to you rightwingers? As with the Zimmerman case, you guys sure jump on a certain side quick to defend certain actions and end results. Do you still wonder why blacks don't feel comfy in the Republican Party?  |
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Post by Ranger John on Aug 15, 2014 21:26:18 GMT -5
Yahoo! News/APTo be perfectly clear - this shooting needs to be THOROUGHLY investigated by an INDEPENDENT investigator. But we do now seem to have an explanation as to why Brown might have freaked out when he was stopped by the police - perhaps even trying to get into the police car to go after the officer's weapon. And, as Dorian Johnson was apparently present at the robbery, it also calls into question his account of the shooting. Once again we're seeing why it doesn't pay to just jump to conclusions and buy into the early story lines about what happened in these types of incidents. I heard the same. Regardless the behavior of the looters cannot be excused. To me, the looters are a separate problem. Sure, they're using this incident as an excuse to act like animals, but understanding what happened at the shooting is more important. It has always seemed ridiculous to me that a police officer would gun down an 'unarmed black teen in cold blood' just because he thought he could get away with it... or because he was walking down the middle of the street... or whatever absurd reason the grievance mongers want to trot out. But, if Brown was fresh from a robbery, and thought he was about to be arrested for a felony, that could cause him react rather violently towards the police. This is compounded when you realize that the officer didn't have the slightest idea that Brown might have been involved in a robbery. For the officer, his guard was most likely down because he thought he was dealing with a jay-walker rather than a robber. The officer just wouldn't have expected Brown to dive into the patrol vehicle. The point though, is a lot of people have jumped to conclusions on this, and it's important to let the investigators do their thing before we assume anything. |
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Post by stevez51 on Aug 15, 2014 21:53:09 GMT -5
Why is the status of this case so important to you rightwingers? As with the Zimmerman case, you guys sure jump on a certain side quick to defend certain actions and end results. Do you still wonder why blacks don't feel comfy in the Republican Party? Why is the status of this case so important to left wingers? Or is it their voting block ..... |
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Post by The New Sheriff of Rock Ridge on Aug 15, 2014 23:12:34 GMT -5
Shame on you ranger john for not including the very next paragraph!!!!!!!!!! Police Chief Thomas Jackson said the officer did not know the teen was a robbery suspect at the time of the shooting and stopped Michael Brown and a companion "because they were walking down the middle of the street blocking traffic." This probably didn't matter, if the guy thought the cops had an ID on him. It would explain the guy's aggressive behavior. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 15, 2014 23:30:49 GMT -5
So a cop can reach out from his car, and with one hand grab a guy who's only slightly smaller than Hulk Hogan into the vehicle? Not only that, but even if he did manage to pull off this Herculean feat, he'd now be faced with the added disadvantage of having a 300-pounder on top of him. That doesn't add up.
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Post by aboutwell on Aug 15, 2014 23:36:44 GMT -5
Shame on you ranger john for not including the very next paragraph!!!!!!!!!! Police Chief Thomas Jackson said the officer did not know the teen was a robbery suspect at the time of the shooting and stopped Michael Brown and a companion "because they were walking down the middle of the street blocking traffic." The officer didn't know... but Brown did... which endangered the officer's life even more... Brown wanted to go to college next week... not jail today... and he didn't know that the officer didn't know... |
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Post by Ranger John on Aug 16, 2014 7:43:07 GMT -5
So a cop can reach out from his car, and with one hand grab a guy who's only slightly smaller than Hulk Hogan into the vehicle? Not only that, but even if he did manage to pull off this Herculean feat, he'd now be faced with the added disadvantage of having a 300-pounder on top of him. That doesn't add up.
Sorry, but I'm having a hard time buying this story. That's a big part of the problem here. The 'witness' story hasn't really made a lot of sense from the beginning. The left just accepted it because that's what they do - always believe the first person who gets their story out - even if the story doesn't make a lot of sense. The police, because it's what they have to do, take their time to look into these incidents to really understand them before they tell their side of the story. After all, they don't want to look like idiots later when the facts are known, and turn out to be entirely different from what they say. I suspect this case is about to go horribly, horribly wrong for the left and their grievance industry. |
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Post by rentedmule on Aug 16, 2014 7:54:26 GMT -5
In ANY rational society I've ever lived in people do Not walk in the street. For good reason that behavior is considered not just rude, but criminal. The instances I have seen personally seemed to practiced by arrogant, angry folk. The odds are decent that if the police don't get you a motorist will. Maybe a self punishing act?
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Post by middleoftheroad on Aug 16, 2014 8:02:11 GMT -5
Yahoo! News/APTo be perfectly clear - this shooting needs to be THOROUGHLY investigated by an INDEPENDENT investigator. But we do now seem to have an explanation as to why Brown might have freaked out when he was stopped by the police - perhaps even trying to get into the police car to go after the officer's weapon. And, as Dorian Johnson was apparently present at the robbery, it also calls into question his account of the shooting. Once again we're seeing why it doesn't pay to just jump to conclusions and buy into the early story lines about what happened in these types of incidents. Unfortunately RJ, the story is out in one particular way and will never really be changed, regardless of what ends up being the truth. Were I that young cop, I'd start the process of looking for a new position, assuming of course, he is in fact innocent. |
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Post by kashmir on Aug 16, 2014 8:24:58 GMT -5
Yahoo! News/APTo be perfectly clear - this shooting needs to be THOROUGHLY investigated by an INDEPENDENT investigator. But we do now seem to have an explanation as to why Brown might have freaked out when he was stopped by the police - perhaps even trying to get into the police car to go after the officer's weapon. And, as Dorian Johnson was apparently present at the robbery, it also calls into question his account of the shooting. Once again we're seeing why it doesn't pay to just jump to conclusions and buy into the early story lines about what happened in these types of incidents. I heard the same. Regardless the behavior of the looters cannot be excused. Yeah because the worst part of this entire situation in your opinion is the looting, not the shooting of unarmed man....... You can always change sides at a later date like you did with the Trayvon Martin case........ |
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Post by redleg on Aug 16, 2014 8:32:37 GMT -5
Shame on you ranger john for not including the very next paragraph!!!!!!!!!! Police Chief Thomas Jackson said the officer did not know the teen was a robbery suspect at the time of the shooting and stopped Michael Brown and a companion "because they were walking down the middle of the street blocking traffic." So what? He was stopped because he was doing something that was illegal, or at the least, stupid and dangerous, and he attacked the officer, evidently. Why he was stopped is irrelevant. |
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Post by redleg on Aug 16, 2014 8:33:39 GMT -5
Why is the status of this case so important to you rightwingers? As with the Zimmerman case, you guys sure jump on a certain side quick to defend certain actions and end results. Do you still wonder why blacks don't feel comfy in the Republican Party? Why is the status so important to Dems that they have to lie about it, and put out nonsense before anything is known about the situation? |
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Post by freddfish on Aug 16, 2014 8:59:10 GMT -5
At least we were spared the obligatory angelic baby or graduation pictures.
What we need here is a comprehensive and dispassionate investigation that gets the facts straight....not a lot of shrieking yahoos (ala Al Sharpton) trying to inflame the situation for their own ends.
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Post by Ranger John on Aug 16, 2014 9:16:54 GMT -5
Yahoo! News/APTo be perfectly clear - this shooting needs to be THOROUGHLY investigated by an INDEPENDENT investigator. But we do now seem to have an explanation as to why Brown might have freaked out when he was stopped by the police - perhaps even trying to get into the police car to go after the officer's weapon. And, as Dorian Johnson was apparently present at the robbery, it also calls into question his account of the shooting. Once again we're seeing why it doesn't pay to just jump to conclusions and buy into the early story lines about what happened in these types of incidents. Unfortunately RJ, the story is out in one particular way and will never really be changed, regardless of what ends up being the truth. Were I that young cop, I'd start the process of looking for a new position, assuming of course, he is in fact innocent. Oh, I don't know. The Crystal Mangum case got sorted out. Sure, the "reality based community" is still convinced she was raped, but the other 90% or so of us know what happened. And now there's a lot of attention on this, there's an opportunity to get to the bottom of what really happened here. |
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Post by Ranger John on Aug 16, 2014 9:18:17 GMT -5
At least we were spared the obligatory angelic baby or graduation pictures. What we need here is a comprehensive and dispassionate investigation that gets the facts straight....not a lot of shrieking yahoos (ala Al Sharpton) trying to inflame the situation for their own ends. Ah yes, Sharpton. I'm trying to think of one of these incidents where he was on the side of the truth. |
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Post by freddfish on Aug 16, 2014 9:34:46 GMT -5
At least we were spared the obligatory angelic baby or graduation pictures. What we need here is a comprehensive and dispassionate investigation that gets the facts straight....not a lot of shrieking yahoos (ala Al Sharpton) trying to inflame the situation for their own ends. Ah yes, Sharpton. I'm trying to think of one of these incidents where he was on the side of the truth. Get comfortable...that is going to take a lot of thinking. |
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Post by Ranger John on Aug 16, 2014 10:06:28 GMT -5
Ah yes, Sharpton. I'm trying to think of one of these incidents where he was on the side of the truth. Get comfortable...that is going to take a lot of thinking. Well, he has never really cared for justice, so the truth doesn't matter to him. He is all about the self promotion. Which is sort of odd, since every time he gets involved in one of these, he just comes off looking mor like an ego obsessed clown. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 16, 2014 17:13:50 GMT -5
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Post by howarewegoingtopay on Aug 16, 2014 19:04:56 GMT -5
To early? Really? How many honest citizens need to stay out past midnight? I would think there would be more who need to go to work before 5:00am than those who want to party past midnight. I wonder how this will make Malik's "Help" harder? With a name like his I expect he is one of the prime inciters of the looters. Here is another deep thinker, who does she think needs to be heard between 12:00am and 5:00am? Really? She also appears to be lying about the Governor not meeting with community members since that isn't what I heard him say. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 16, 2014 19:20:29 GMT -5
The next time I get angry I will go Rob and destroy a 7 Eleven. Destruction is not the new normal.
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Post by kashmir on Aug 16, 2014 20:07:38 GMT -5
The next time I get angry I will go Rob and destroy a 7 Eleven. Destruction is not the new normal. You do just that........yawn....... |
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