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Post by kashmir on Aug 18, 2014 7:31:08 GMT -5
Most honest criticism of President Obama doesn't stem from racism or prejudice. When George Will claims, "As the president begins his second term, the signature achievement of his first term looks remarkably rickety," he's speaking from his own honest assessment of the ACA. Similarly, when Pat Buchanan asks, "Will Obamacare Be the Death of Liberalism?" he's voicing the genuine sentiment of millions of concerned citizens. However, conservative politics since President Obama's first term has blurred the lines between sincere analysis and surreptitious messages aimed at pandering to extremists. Whereas Republicans used to shy away from the mention of Willie Horton ads or the racially charged reference of welfare queens, today's GOP has embraced rhetoric that overtly communicates racist undertones. When Glenn Beck famously stated that President Obama had a "deep-seated hatred for white people or the white culture," American politics entered a phase where paranoia trumped reasonable debate and dialogue. The recent comment by Republican Congressman Mo Brooks about "the war on whites that's being launched by the Democratic Party" is the latest example of such racially charged hyperbole and highlights a political platform within the Tea Party. The Tea Party and staunch GOP conservatives have overtly proclaimed, in many instances, that President Obama's heritage should be verified and his motives questioned. Most importantly, the first African-American president has been painted as opposing the interests of white people, and while Glenn Beck has stated this verbatim, this sentiment has been a cornerstone of Tea Party politics. It all started with accusations of Obama's birthplace, religion, and loyalty. It's telling that Bill Clinton and Al Gore never had to defend themselves from such assaults, but the first African-American president was subjected to this rhetoric immediately upon entering office. Ted Cruz's father stated in 2012 that, "We need to send Barack Obama back to Chicago, I'd like to send him back to Kenya." Sadly, others in the GOP have embraced this myth with even greater vigor. Even before the last election, a POLITICO article explained that most Republicans still believed Obama was born in another country: Poll: 51 percent of GOP primary voters think Obama born abroad...
In a shocking finding, more than half of GOP primary voters believe President Barack Obama was not born in the United States, according to a new poll.
...Only 28 percent said they think the president was born in the United States -- a constitutional requirement to be president. Twenty-one percent said they were "not sure."Among those who do not believe Obama was born in the United States, Mike Huckabee is their first choice for president, followed by Sarah Palin, Newt Gingrich and then Mitt Romney.
While Ted Cruz actually was born in another country, Obama's citizenship was questioned from his first day in office.www.huffingtonpost.com/h-a-goodman/tea-party-hatred-of-obama_b_5650966.html |
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Post by com6063 on Aug 18, 2014 8:12:43 GMT -5
There are extremes on both sides. I'm not in the Tea party and I don't "hate" Obama, but I do disagree with him on many decisions and policies. I think he was born here but really don't care if he was born in Russia or on Mars.
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Post by redleg on Aug 18, 2014 8:15:01 GMT -5
Given his absolute secrecy about his life before politics, and even after, it's no wonder people suspect him of being something other than what he claims. That, and his actions since being installed in the WH. Besides, notice it's the Left that still talks about him being born somewhere else. I guess they have to deflect the serfs from what's really going on.
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Post by kashmir on Aug 18, 2014 8:21:26 GMT -5
Given his absolute secrecy about his life before politics, and even after, it's no wonder people suspect him of being something other than what he claims. That, and his actions since being installed in the WH. Besides, notice it's the Left that still talks about him being born somewhere else. I guess they have to deflect the serfs from what's really going on. You didn't get his bowel movement record?  |
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Post by freddfish on Aug 18, 2014 8:24:44 GMT -5
Hard for me to believe that, after nearly 8 years, people are STILL running round trying to flog this dead horse to life  ...because quite simply, it is all they have. They're never going to let go of it, no matter what, so there's no point in arguing with them. My life is far too short to waste valuable time trying to teach a jackass to sing soprano.  |
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Post by kashmir on Aug 18, 2014 9:00:15 GMT -5
Hard for me to believe that, after nearly 8 years, people are STILL running round trying to flog this dead horse to life ...because quite simply, it is all they have. They're never going to let go of it, no matter what, so there's no point in arguing with them. My life is far too short to waste valuable time trying to teach a jackass to sing soprano. It is the corner stone of their racist hate…... |
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Post by redleg on Aug 18, 2014 9:36:38 GMT -5
Given his absolute secrecy about his life before politics, and even after, it's no wonder people suspect him of being something other than what he claims. That, and his actions since being installed in the WH. Besides, notice it's the Left that still talks about him being born somewhere else. I guess they have to deflect the serfs from what's really going on. You didn't get his bowel movement record? As full of "it" as he is, I doubt he ever had one. Besides, I notice that you demand that on Palin, Bush, Cruz, and every Pub pol. Wonder why you don't care at all about The Puppet? |
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Post by redleg on Aug 18, 2014 9:37:54 GMT -5
Hard for me to believe that, after nearly 8 years, people are STILL running round trying to flog this dead horse to life ...because quite simply, it is all they have. They're never going to let go of it, no matter what, so there's no point in arguing with them. My life is far too short to waste valuable time trying to teach a jackass to sing soprano. It is the corner stone of their racist hate…... Who, the Democrats? Since it's the Dems that are still bringing this up. I guess you have to cover your racism somehow. |
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Post by kashmir on Aug 18, 2014 9:43:11 GMT -5
It is the corner stone of their racist hate…... Who, the Democrats? Since it's the Dems that are still bringing this up. I guess you have to cover your racism somehow. No silly the Republicans, the Tea Party, ever wonder why it is just chock a block full of angry white people? No I suppose you don't……... |
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Post by aboutwell on Aug 18, 2014 9:50:36 GMT -5
No doubt that Redleg is in that 51%...
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Post by redleg on Aug 18, 2014 9:57:07 GMT -5
Who, the Democrats? Since it's the Dems that are still bringing this up. I guess you have to cover your racism somehow. No silly the Republicans, the Tea Party, ever wonder why it is just chock a block full of angry white people? No I suppose you don't……... Hmmmm, because the blacks can't get out of their Democrat imposed plantations? Every citizen of this country should be angry at the incompetence, criminal negligence, and outright crimes committed by the current regime. They aren't, because far too many are serfs, who get their "news" from the LR media, who's only mission now is to protect Democrats, and especially The Puppet. Racism is rampant, in the Democrat Part, but the LR media attributes the Dems racism to Pubs. The Dems are the party of the KKK, remember? |
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Post by redleg on Aug 18, 2014 9:58:22 GMT -5
No doubt that Redleg is in that 51%... I have no idea where he was born. And that's the problem. When we have a President that doesn't even want his place of birth known, we have a problem. |
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Post by Moses on Aug 18, 2014 10:11:14 GMT -5
No doubt that Redleg is in that 51%... I have no idea where he was born. And that's the problem. When we have a President that doesn't even want his place of birth known, we have a problem.  |
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Post by com6063 on Aug 18, 2014 10:11:30 GMT -5
Hard for me to believe that, after nearly 8 years, people are STILL running round trying to flog this dead horse to life ...because quite simply, it is all they have. They're never going to let go of it, no matter what, so there's no point in arguing with them. My life is far too short to waste valuable time trying to teach a jackass to sing soprano. It is the corner stone of their racist hate…... No, not really. |
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Post by kashmir on Aug 18, 2014 10:15:11 GMT -5
It is the corner stone of their racist hate…... No, not really. Yes, really. |
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Post by aboutwell on Aug 18, 2014 10:16:05 GMT -5
No doubt that Redleg is in that 51%... I have no idea where he was born. And that's the problem. When we have a President that doesn't even want his place of birth known, we have a problem. But he does want it known... he said he was born in Hawaii... and produced his birth certificate to back it up... not believing that puts you in that 51%... |
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Post by redleg on Aug 18, 2014 10:17:47 GMT -5
I have no idea where he was born. And that's the problem. When we have a President that doesn't even want his place of birth known, we have a problem. But he does want it known... he said he was born in Hawaii... and produced his birth certificate to back it up... not believing that puts you in that 51%... No, it was hidden for 4 years, and the one produced has been shown to be problematic. |
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Post by aboutwell on Aug 18, 2014 10:30:23 GMT -5
But he does want it known... he said he was born in Hawaii... and produced his birth certificate to back it up... not believing that puts you in that 51%... No, it was hidden for 4 years, and the one produced has been shown to be problematic. It's childish to ask a President to produce his birth certificate... how many others have been asked for theirs?... he didn't want to play childish games with you folks... then he realized you just weren't going to STFU... personally, I would have told you to kiss my ass... and asked for the next question... |
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Post by freddfish on Aug 18, 2014 10:39:44 GMT -5
But he does want it known... he said he was born in Hawaii... and produced his birth certificate to back it up... not believing that puts you in that 51%... No, it was hidden for 4 years, and the one produced has been shown to be problematic. At this point, and with Obama, I don't really care. But it has always seemed to me that if you declare your intention to run for any public office, you should be required to produce certain documents to prove your bona fides, and a valid birth cert is certainly one. No drama, no witchhunt, no partisan sniping, just: "Name?" "Hiram Henry Hickenlooper" "Office you are seeking?" "President of the United States" "OK...I need to see your birth certificate, and either a US passport or 2 valid forms of ID" "Here's my birth cert, passport and driver's license" (pause while info is entered into computer) "OK, thanks. You should recieve confirmation of this in 3-5 business days. Contact us immediately if there is any change in your status" "thank you" "NEXT!" |
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Post by aboutwell on Aug 18, 2014 10:49:20 GMT -5
No, it was hidden for 4 years, and the one produced has been shown to be problematic. At this point, and with Obama, I don't really care. But it has always seemed to me that if you declare your intention to run for any public office, you should be required to produce certain documents to prove your bona fides, and a valid birth cert is certainly one. No drama, no witchhunt, no partisan sniping, just: "Name?" "Hiram Henry Hickenlooper" "Office you are seeking?" "President of the United States" "OK...I need to see your birth certificate, and either a US passport or 2 valid forms of ID" "Here's my birth cert, passport and driver's license" (pause while info is entered into computer) "OK, thanks. You should recieve confirmation of this in 3-5 business days. Contact us immediately if there is any change in your status" "thank you" "NEXT!" And no doubt he did all these things... to those who he needed to provide them to to qualify... personally, "I" don't find a "need to know"... I'm not going to try to second guess every authority approving the qualifications of office candidates... logically, if you did one... you'd need to do all... And don't forget... Jimmy Carter was the first President to be born in a hospital... where were all the others born?... who has a need to know?... |
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Post by howarewegoingtopay on Aug 18, 2014 10:51:25 GMT -5
Hard for me to believe that, after nearly 8 years, people are STILL running round trying to flog this dead horse to life ...because quite simply, it is all they have. They're never going to let go of it, no matter what, so there's no point in arguing with them. My life is far too short to waste valuable time trying to teach a jackass to sing soprano. It is the corner stone of their racist hate…... I think he meant the lefties who keep bringing it up. So why did it take 2 years before he could fake up a birth certificate? Is it any wonder people doubt what he says when he lies constantly? |
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Post by kashmir on Aug 18, 2014 10:55:16 GMT -5
It is the corner stone of their racist hate…... I think he meant the lefties who keep bringing it up. So why did it take 2 years before he could fake up a birth certificate? Is it any wonder people doubt what he says when he lies constantly? Here's your sign………... |
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Post by kashmir on Aug 18, 2014 10:57:30 GMT -5
No, it was hidden for 4 years, and the one produced has been shown to be problematic. At this point, and with Obama, I don't really care. But it has always seemed to me that if you declare your intention to run for any public office, you should be required to produce certain documents to prove your bona fides, and a valid birth cert is certainly one. No drama, no witchhunt, no partisan sniping, just: "Name?" "Hiram Henry Hickenlooper" "Office you are seeking?" "President of the United States" "OK...I need to see your birth certificate, and either a US passport or 2 valid forms of ID" "Here's my birth cert, passport and driver's license" (pause while info is entered into computer) "OK, thanks. You should recieve confirmation of this in 3-5 business days. Contact us immediately if there is any change in your status" "thank you" "NEXT!" That was hilarious!!! |
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Post by howarewegoingtopay on Aug 18, 2014 11:02:36 GMT -5
I think he meant the lefties who keep bringing it up. So why did it take 2 years before he could fake up a birth certificate? Is it any wonder people doubt what he says when he lies constantly? Here's your sign………... I see you don't know why it took so long either. |
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Post by kashmir on Aug 18, 2014 11:08:00 GMT -5
Here's your sign………... I see you don't know why it took so long either. Nope, wrong again, but I am cheering you on for a win……... But I can't understand how a person born outside the US doesn't get the same scrutiny that Obama's US birth certificate received. Hmmmmmm…….now what is different about these two individuals……... It would certainly go towards my claim of the Tea Party being big ole racists though…….. |
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...because quite simply, it is all they have.
