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Post by Deleted on Aug 19, 2014 17:59:38 GMT -5
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Post by Evil Yoda on Aug 19, 2014 18:46:38 GMT -5
May he rest in peace. My heart goes out to his family and friends.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 19, 2014 18:48:54 GMT -5
These people are evil.
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Post by kashmir on Aug 19, 2014 19:42:56 GMT -5
Because they spanned the entire latter half of the Middle Ages, lasting into the 1800s, the Inquisitions themselves deserve their own entry. Their typically accepted dates are from the 1100s to 1808. The Inquisition still exists today, but torture and execution are no longer allowed. The word itself simply denotes an investigation into possible heresy.For those seven centuries or so, anyone who roused the anger or suspicion of the Roman Catholic Church was in very real danger of the arrival of Inquisitors, whose job was “to root out and purge the Christian civilized world of heresy and crimes against God.” Torture was not only defended as a means to gain a confession; the Church encouraged it.Aside from the specific cases mentioned in other entries, it must not be forgotten that the Catholic Church routinely arrested and tortured Jews, Muslims, Waldensianism (Christian), Hussitism (Christian) and numerous other religions and religious sects. These people were given prior warning to vacate the given area (a pogrom), after which anyone found in the area was arrested and given an ultimatum: convert to Christianity or be executed. Anyone who foolishly refused was tortured until he or she did convert, and the Inquisition allowed no exemptions for anyone, men, women, children, the elderly or the disabled. These tortures were lurid beyond belief, including branding, the rack, hanging by the toes or thumbs, toe crushing, bone breaking, simple beatings, foot roasting, and blinding by red-hot pokers. After such tortures, the condemned was almost always strangled, then burned at the stake. For seven centuries, the Catholic Church was all powerful, even terrifying monarchs, and the Inquisition held absolute sway by the most brutal methods imaginable. listverse.com/2011/06/08/top-10-shameful-moments-in-catholic-history/Evil? There has never been a shortage of evil by religions. |
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Post by freddfish on Aug 19, 2014 20:04:15 GMT -5
I'm not going to watch that video, it seems like that is exactly what those scumbags who killed him would like me to do....but my heart goes out to his family and friends.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 19, 2014 20:06:15 GMT -5
I'm not going to watch that video, it seems like that is exactly what those scumbags who killed him would like me to do....but my heart goes out to his family and friends. I saw a headline that suggested it would not be comfortable to watch and like you decided to avoid it. |
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Post by freddfish on Aug 20, 2014 7:43:26 GMT -5
The best way to handle this, and the most effective, is not coincidentally also the easiest:
POTUS: "We deplore the barbaric acts shown on the video ..........(insert boilerplate verbiage here, then onto the real message)....and we hold the leaders of this movement PERSONALLY responsible."
PERSONALLY responsible means that somewhere in the near future, there is a Hellfire missile, or a 2K lb bomb, or a 9mm double tap through the face from an American SPEC-OPS warrior, with YOUR name on it.
None of this "To Whom It May Concern" sh1t.......this Bud's for YOU.
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Post by Ranger John on Aug 20, 2014 8:43:20 GMT -5
The best way to handle this, and the most effective, is not coincidentally also the easiest: POTUS: "We deplore the barbaric acts shown on the video ..........(insert boilerplate verbiage here, then onto the real message)....and we hold the leaders of this movement PERSONALLY responsible." PERSONALLY responsible means that somewhere in the near future, there is a Hellfire missile, or a 2K lb bomb, or a 9mm double tap through the face from an American SPEC-OPS warrior, with YOUR name on it. None of this "To Whom It May Concern" sh1t.......this Bud's for YOU. I think we can probably assume the current POTUS has no intentions of actually doing much of anything but talk about this. |
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Post by freddfish on Aug 20, 2014 8:57:26 GMT -5
The best way to handle this, and the most effective, is not coincidentally also the easiest: POTUS: "We deplore the barbaric acts shown on the video ..........(insert boilerplate verbiage here, then onto the real message)....and we hold the leaders of this movement PERSONALLY responsible." PERSONALLY responsible means that somewhere in the near future, there is a Hellfire missile, or a 2K lb bomb, or a 9mm double tap through the face from an American SPEC-OPS warrior, with YOUR name on it. None of this "To Whom It May Concern" sh1t.......this Bud's for YOU. I think we can probably assume the current POTUS has no intentions of actually doing much of anything but talk about this. Well, yeah. I mean, that is pretty much a given. |
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Post by kashmir on Aug 20, 2014 8:58:21 GMT -5
Yeeeee Hawwwwwwww, Yippee-ki-yay, is hardly a foreign policy……….
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Post by Ranger John on Aug 20, 2014 9:21:11 GMT -5
Yeeeee Hawwwwwwww, Yippee-ki-yay, is hardly a foreign policy………. Neither is "Don't do stupid stuff." Just ask Hillary. |
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Post by kashmir on Aug 20, 2014 9:40:33 GMT -5
Yeeeee Hawwwwwwww, Yippee-ki-yay, is hardly a foreign policy………. Neither is "Don't do stupid stuff." Just ask Hillary. Or ask Bobby Jindal, you know the Republican that begs for the Republican Party to stop being the 'Party of Stupid'……….. |
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Post by Evil Yoda on Aug 20, 2014 11:21:42 GMT -5
Evil? There has never been a shortage of evil by religions. True. But in the modern era the Muslims are the principal distributor of that commodity. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 20, 2014 11:38:07 GMT -5
Evil? There has never been a shortage of evil by religions. True. But in the modern era the Muslims are the principal distributor of that commodity. Radicalized extremists, yes. As a generalization about Muslims I'm inclined to disagree. |
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Post by Ranger John on Aug 20, 2014 11:44:35 GMT -5
True. But in the modern era the Muslims are the principal distributor of that commodity. Radicalized extremists, yes. As a generalization about Muslims I'm inclined to disagree. I don't think EY was generalizing about Muslims. Religiously speaking, Muslims are the 'principal distributor of evil' relative to other religions. And I would argue that has been the case since the Inquisition stopped torturing people a few hundred years ago. We all know the Catholics (and to be fair other Christian denominations) have had their problems with pedophiles and other abuses, and the church didn't respond in an effective or appropriate manner. But the difference between a pedophile priest and a suicide bomber, is that while both are evil, the priest doesn't point to his faith as a justification for his evil. In other words, the evil that the pedophile does isn't connected to his faith. The suicide bomber is evil BECAUSE of his faith, the pedophile is evil IN SPITE of his faith. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 20, 2014 11:49:44 GMT -5
Radicalized extremists, yes. As a generalization about Muslims I'm inclined to disagree. I don't think EY was generalizing about Muslims. Religiously speaking, Muslims are the 'principal distributor of evil' relative to other religions. And I would argue that has been the case since the Inquisition stopped torturing people a few hundred years ago. We all know the Catholics (and to be fair other Christian denominations) have had their problems with pedophiles and other abuses, and the church didn't respond in an effective or appropriate manner. But the difference between a pedophile priest and a suicide bomber, is that while both are evil, the priest doesn't point to his faith as a justification for his evil. In other words, the evil that the pedophile does isn't connected to his faith. The suicide bomber is evil BECAUSE of his faith, the pedophile is evil IN SPITE of his faith. I would say the suicide bomber is evil in spite of his faith. That he may say otherwise is meaningless in the context of his acts. I knew a muslim guy (not sure where he went after the old local pub closed). He was more interested in getting stoned than blowing shxt up. I'd hate to see him thrown in with muslim extremists because of his faith. He was a nice guy to hang out with. Then there was Ms. M who used to work for the company I do. An insanely hot Iranian girl. A muslim and just as sweet as could be. |
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Post by howarewegoingtopay on Aug 20, 2014 11:55:16 GMT -5
I don't think EY was generalizing about Muslims. Religiously speaking, Muslims are the 'principal distributor of evil' relative to other religions. And I would argue that has been the case since the Inquisition stopped torturing people a few hundred years ago. We all know the Catholics (and to be fair other Christian denominations) have had their problems with pedophiles and other abuses, and the church didn't respond in an effective or appropriate manner. But the difference between a pedophile priest and a suicide bomber, is that while both are evil, the priest doesn't point to his faith as a justification for his evil. In other words, the evil that the pedophile does isn't connected to his faith. The suicide bomber is evil BECAUSE of his faith, the pedophile is evil IN SPITE of his faith. I would say the suicide bomber is evil in spite of his faith. That he may say otherwise is meaningless in the context of his acts. I knew a muslim guy (not sure where he went after the old local pub closed). He was more interested in getting stoned than blowing shxt up. I'd hate to see him thrown in with muslim extremists because of his faith. He was a nice guy to hang out with. Then there was Ms. M who used to work for the company I do. An insanely hot Iranian girl. A muslim and just as sweet as could be. In a pub, did he drink? If so then he wasn't following his religion particularly closely, kind of a jack mormon so to speak. If all muslims were like him the world would be a more peaceful place. Since Ms M was not in a burkha then she would also be one of those jack Muslims. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 20, 2014 11:59:15 GMT -5
I would say the suicide bomber is evil in spite of his faith. That he may say otherwise is meaningless in the context of his acts. I knew a muslim guy (not sure where he went after the old local pub closed). He was more interested in getting stoned than blowing shxt up. I'd hate to see him thrown in with muslim extremists because of his faith. He was a nice guy to hang out with. Then there was Ms. M who used to work for the company I do. An insanely hot Iranian girl. A muslim and just as sweet as could be. In a pub, did he drink? If so then he wasn't following his religion particularly closely, kind of a jack mormon so to speak. If all muslims were like him the world would be a more peaceful place. Since Ms M was not in a burkha then she would also be one of those jack Muslims. Yes, Mr. F drank. Ms. M didn't wear a burkha and rarely wore a head scarf (when she did is was usually in winter and I guessed it was for practical reasons). The point here is that not all muslims are extremist killers. All the ones I have met were nice people. So I reject the idea that ISIS arsehats are representative of the ones I have known. |
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Post by alienrace on Aug 20, 2014 12:15:35 GMT -5
Evil? There has never been a shortage of evil by religions. True. But in the modern era the Muslims are the principal distributor of that commodity. Very true. We are in the modern age, where barbaric acts in the name of religious ideals are not tolerated(or should not be, anyway). |
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Post by Moses on Aug 20, 2014 12:18:41 GMT -5
I'm not going to watch that video, it seems like that is exactly what those scumbags who killed him would like me to do....but my heart goes out to his family and friends. Me either. I get a sinking feeling in my stomach when I read this. It's depressing..... |
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Post by Moses on Aug 20, 2014 12:20:30 GMT -5
Evil? There has never been a shortage of evil by religions. True. But in the modern era the Muslims are the principal distributor of that commodity. We still kill more Muslims than they kill us. |
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Post by howarewegoingtopay on Aug 20, 2014 12:33:15 GMT -5
In a pub, did he drink? If so then he wasn't following his religion particularly closely, kind of a jack mormon so to speak. If all muslims were like him the world would be a more peaceful place. Since Ms M was not in a burkha then she would also be one of those jack Muslims. Yes, Mr. F drank. Ms. M didn't wear a burkha and rarely wore a head scarf (when she did is was usually in winter and I guessed it was for practical reasons). The point here is that not all muslims are extremist killers. All the ones I have met were nice people. So I reject the idea that ISIS arsehats are representative of the ones I have known. So these muslims would probably be in favor of a rewrite of the Koran, call it the New Koran which stripped out all the barbaric practices. Kind of like the New Testament doesn't have all the old biblical punishments. When all those moderate muslims start to stand up for what they believe in and cause an official change in Islamic doctrine, then I will consider them not muslim extremist killers, until then they are just enabling those killers. |
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Post by dogbert on Aug 20, 2014 12:34:10 GMT -5
Muslims are all just as guilty of these horrific crimes if you disagree with me show us some of the Muslim groups that have denounced The Cowards Little Girls Who Like Goats. Liberals should pay particular attention as the poor SOB chokes on his own blood because that is EXACTLY what they want to do to all of us and who do you think is going to be first? Now you have to remember that as Cowards that don't even have the guts to show their faces but yet seem brave enough saw a helpless man's head off. That means those who are armed and would fight back will be a less likely targets as opposed to the "Can't we all get along." crowd. I have been to several other sites and the folks there seem to have had just about enough. I AM NOT making threats, I am just telling you what I have seen. The Jihad Works Both Ways tee shirts and the like I really can't help but think that someone somewhere is going to retaliate in kind and can you imagine what the left media, politicians and left wing nut jobs are going to do? All over the Middle East Christians are killed, persecuted and ran out of lands where they lived peacefully for hundreds of years and yet you don't hear a peep from Muslim groups or the American left. I think it is going to blow and it is going to blow soon, I pray I am wrong but I have one of those gut feelings that I'm not. As for a way to stop this is every time something like this happens 1,000 tons of bombs are going to fall all over the Middle East and when their oil fields, water works, power stations are in rubble and an EMP destroys all of their non-harden electronics are useless they will have just what they want, the sixth century. These animals only understand one thing and when the rest of the Muslim world are dead or living in squalor maybe the "peaceful" Muslims will finally find their balls and speak up.
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Post by dogbert on Aug 20, 2014 12:35:33 GMT -5
The best way to handle this, and the most effective, is not coincidentally also the easiest: POTUS: "We deplore the barbaric acts shown on the video ..........(insert boilerplate verbiage here, then onto the real message)....and we hold the leaders of this movement PERSONALLY responsible." PERSONALLY responsible means that somewhere in the near future, there is a Hellfire missile, or a 2K lb bomb, or a 9mm double tap through the face from an American SPEC-OPS warrior, with YOUR name on it. None of this "To Whom It May Concern" sh1t.......this Bud's for YOU. I think we can probably assume the current POTUS has no intentions of actually doing much of anything but talk about this. Got that right!  |
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Post by Ranger John on Aug 20, 2014 12:42:08 GMT -5
I don't think EY was generalizing about Muslims. Religiously speaking, Muslims are the 'principal distributor of evil' relative to other religions. And I would argue that has been the case since the Inquisition stopped torturing people a few hundred years ago. We all know the Catholics (and to be fair other Christian denominations) have had their problems with pedophiles and other abuses, and the church didn't respond in an effective or appropriate manner. But the difference between a pedophile priest and a suicide bomber, is that while both are evil, the priest doesn't point to his faith as a justification for his evil. In other words, the evil that the pedophile does isn't connected to his faith. The suicide bomber is evil BECAUSE of his faith, the pedophile is evil IN SPITE of his faith. I would say the suicide bomber is evil in spite of his faith. That he may say otherwise is meaningless in the context of his acts. I knew a muslim guy (not sure where he went after the old local pub closed). He was more interested in getting stoned than blowing shxt up. I'd hate to see him thrown in with muslim extremists because of his faith. He was a nice guy to hang out with. Then there was Ms. M who used to work for the company I do. An insanely hot Iranian girl. A muslim and just as sweet as could be. I think we're going to have to disagree on the bomber being evil in spite of his faith. I'll stipulate that not all Muslims are suicide bombers, and most - especially in the US - are just normal people trying to get by. But I think you miss the point. Obviously there are different ways of interpreting and living the Islamic faith. For some, that includes blowing themselves up along with as many infidels as they can get in the pizza parlor with them. A specific interpretation of Islam motivates that bomber. There is no part of a priest's faith that encourages him to molest children. |
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