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Post by howarewegoingtopay on Sept 16, 2014 11:26:25 GMT -5
linkI know that this is "local" to the forum, but it was posted as national news, and it reflects activities happening in Detroit, and other major cities. Is there anyone here who has personal experience with what is happening in Baltimore? This article makes it sound really, really bad, including the comments. Is it overblown?
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Post by Evil Yoda on Sept 16, 2014 13:42:36 GMT -5
I go into the city occasionally, but I never stray far from the safe zone: Pratt St. from around the Inner Harbor over to the stadiums. I have not seen much of what is described here. Once I did have a car vandalized when I left it there overnight (kids: don't get so drunk someone else has to drive you home!); I was later told I was lucky it was still there. That was in Fells Point. I wouldn't go outside the few areas of the city where the police are somewhat motivated to keep folks safe (because if those areas went bad the city would suffer a lack of revenue). I won't visit a city business when I can find one comparable outside it.
Seems like Rawlings-Blake's approach might be like the late and un-lamented Pat Jessemy, who basically wouldn't prosecute. She dealt poorly with the four animals who beat Zach Sowers so badly he went into a coma and later died (three of them are now at large again, at least one has re-offended).
The clear message is stay away from the city if you value your life, health and property. I am really glad I made the decision to move far, far away from that cesspool. I can't understand why anyone who could afford to live elsewhere would live there.
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Post by howarewegoingtopay on Sept 16, 2014 14:46:39 GMT -5
I go into the city occasionally, but I never stray far from the safe zone: Pratt St. from around the Inner Harbor over to the stadiums. I have not seen much of what is described here. Once I did have a car vandalized when I left it there overnight (kids: don't get so drunk someone else has to drive you home!); I was later told I was lucky it was still there. That was in Fells Point. I wouldn't go outside the few areas of the city where the police are somewhat motivated to keep folks safe (because if those areas went bad the city would suffer a lack of revenue). I won't visit a city business when I can find one comparable outside it. Seems like Rawlings-Blake's approach might be like the late and un-lamented Pat Jessemy, who basically wouldn't prosecute. She dealt poorly with the four animals who beat Zach Sowers so badly he went into a coma and later died (three of them are now at large again, at least one has re-offended). The clear message is stay away from the city if you value your life, health and property. I am really glad I made the decision to move far, far away from that cesspool. I can't understand why anyone who could afford to live elsewhere would live there. Thanks, I have never been to Baltimore, I have only seen the good parts of Detroit (Gross Point etc). But if this is a sign of where urban centers are heading then the cliff is closer than I thought.
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Post by winston on Sept 16, 2014 16:56:21 GMT -5
I go into the city occasionally, but I never stray far from the safe zone: Pratt St. from around the Inner Harbor over to the stadiums. I have not seen much of what is described here. Once I did have a car vandalized when I left it there overnight (kids: don't get so drunk someone else has to drive you home!); I was later told I was lucky it was still there. That was in Fells Point. I wouldn't go outside the few areas of the city where the police are somewhat motivated to keep folks safe (because if those areas went bad the city would suffer a lack of revenue). I won't visit a city business when I can find one comparable outside it. Seems like Rawlings-Blake's approach might be like the late and un-lamented Pat Jessemy, who basically wouldn't prosecute. She dealt poorly with the four animals who beat Zach Sowers so badly he went into a coma and later died (three of them are now at large again, at least one has re-offended). The clear message is stay away from the city if you value your life, health and property. I am really glad I made the decision to move far, far away from that cesspool. I can't understand why anyone who could afford to live elsewhere would live there. Thanks, I have never been to Baltimore, I have only seen the good parts of Detroit (Gross Point etc). But if this is a sign of where urban centers are heading then the cliff is closer than I thought. Oh, you have never been to Baltimore, and I never been to Detroit.
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Post by rentedmule on Sept 16, 2014 17:08:38 GMT -5
The real crime is committed by those who believe that they are entitled to live in a safe environment. The arrogance..... who do white folk think they are?
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Post by howarewegoingtopay on Sept 16, 2014 17:32:27 GMT -5
The real crime is committed by those who believe that they are entitled to live in a safe environment. The arrogance..... who do white folk think they are? Have you never heard of White Privilege? It is the new thing for lefties. They are constantly trying to find reasons to hate themselves.
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Post by winston on Sept 16, 2014 18:40:37 GMT -5
The real crime is committed by those who believe that they are entitled to live in a safe environment. The arrogance..... who do white folk think they are? Have you never heard of White Privilege? It is the new thing for lefties. They are constantly trying to find reasons to hate themselves.
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Post by rentedmule on Sept 17, 2014 5:15:07 GMT -5
Traditionally "cities" were prosperous because they were centers of order, rule of law, and all energy was directed towards production and commerce and intellect. "Outsiders" who emigrated to the city were expected to conform or be banished. Now? Those who live in cities Must accept the "urban culture" of violence and lawlessness or face the charge of arrogance.
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Post by winston on Sept 17, 2014 8:35:14 GMT -5
Traditionally "cities" were prosperous because they were centers of order, rule of law, and all energy was directed towards production and commerce and intellect. "Outsiders" who emigrated to the city were expected to conform or be banished. Now? Those who live in cities Must accept the "urban culture" of violence and lawlessness or face the charge of arrogance. And a Major Drug problem
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Post by vosa on Sept 18, 2014 15:38:07 GMT -5
Traditionally "cities" were prosperous because they were centers of order, rule of law, and all energy was directed towards production and commerce and intellect. "Outsiders" who emigrated to the city were expected to conform or be banished. Now? Those who live in cities Must accept the "urban culture" of violence and lawlessness or face the charge of arrogance. And a Major Drug problem If drugs were legalized to a large extent the drug problem, including all those collateral problems, would go away. For the money we spend on enforcing drug laws we could fund one hell of a treatment program for those who wanted to kick the habit.
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Post by howarewegoingtopay on Sept 18, 2014 15:50:43 GMT -5
If drugs were legalized to a large extent the drug problem, including all those collateral problems, would go away. For the money we spend on enforcing drug laws we could fund one hell of a treatment program for those who wanted to kick the habit. It would be nice, but frankly will probably never happen. Drug dealers do not want it legal (they would lose profit), politicians do not want it legal (no more bribe money), feel good types worry about those who will drug overdose so they don't want it legal, law enforcement doesn't want it legal (most would be out of a job). Frankly the only people who want it legal are the drug users, and those who believe in personal responsibility (a really small number there). I am amazed that prohibition was repealed.
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Post by redleg on Sept 19, 2014 13:58:30 GMT -5
If drugs were legalized to a large extent the drug problem, including all those collateral problems, would go away. For the money we spend on enforcing drug laws we could fund one hell of a treatment program for those who wanted to kick the habit. It would be nice, but frankly will probably never happen. Drug dealers do not want it legal (they would lose profit), politicians do not want it legal (no more bribe money), feel good types worry about those who will drug overdose so they don't want it legal, law enforcement doesn't want it legal (most would be out of a job). Frankly the only people who want it legal are the drug users, and those who believe in personal responsibility (a really small number there). I am amazed that prohibition was repealed. And since it was repealed, and nothing else to amend the Constitution, how is it illegal at the Federal level?
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Post by aboutwell on Sept 22, 2014 21:11:07 GMT -5
Thanks, I have never been to Baltimore, I have only seen the good parts of Detroit (Gross Point etc). But if this is a sign of where urban centers are heading then the cliff is closer than I thought. Oh, you have never been to Baltimore, and I never been to Detroit. You guys don't get out much... there are good places and bad places in all the big cities... including Baltimore and Detroit... and I've been to all of 'em...
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Post by rocketwolf on Sept 23, 2014 6:50:54 GMT -5
Of course.
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Post by aboutwell on Sept 23, 2014 7:38:13 GMT -5
Just sayin'... you want a list?...
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Post by darave on Sept 23, 2014 10:38:52 GMT -5
this is a breakdown of law enforcement if you do the crime you serve the time. Lock these animals up if they can't behave themselves.
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Post by rocketwolf on Sept 23, 2014 18:54:05 GMT -5
Just sayin'... you want a list?... of course
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Post by aboutwell on Sept 23, 2014 20:06:01 GMT -5
Just sayin'... you want a list?... of course Okay... where you want to start?... San Diego?... Seattle?... Portland (ME)... or Miami?...
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Post by Evil Yoda on Sept 24, 2014 10:58:27 GMT -5
Get a map of Baltimore. Cut out the Inner Harbor, Harbor East, Little Italy, and over to the stadia. Now you have a map of the bad parts of town.
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Post by vosa on Sept 24, 2014 11:10:42 GMT -5
Tell me this isn't also true...
"Black privilege (or Black skin privilege) is a term for societal privileges, existing in predominantly Black societies, that benefit Black people beyond what is commonly experienced by non-Black people in the same social, political, or economic circumstances.[note 1] The term denotes both obvious and less obvious unspoken advantages that Black persons may not recognize they have, which distinguishes it from overt bias or prejudice.[1] These include cultural affirmations of one's own worth; presumed greater social status; and freedom to move, buy, work, play, and speak freely.[2] The concept of Black privilege also implies the right to assume the universality of one's own experiences, marking others as different or exceptional while perceiving oneself as normal.[3][4] It can be compared to and/or combined with the concept of male privilege."
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Post by rocketwolf on Sept 24, 2014 16:12:56 GMT -5
Okay... where you want to start?... San Diego?... Seattle?... Portland (ME)... or Miami?... I guess you can pick the city with the greatest number of important people you know or have given advice too.
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Post by aboutwell on Sept 24, 2014 17:36:49 GMT -5
Get a map of Baltimore. Cut out the Inner Harbor, Harbor East, Little Italy, and over to the stadia. Now you have a map of the bad parts of town. (No................ I'm not gonna say where I have walked alone late at night in Baltimore...)
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