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Post by Ravenchamp on Oct 1, 2014 14:37:46 GMT -5
WTH? this could have been prevented KNOWING the threat it is.. but noooooooooooooooo SECOND POSSIBLE EBOLA CASE IN DALLAS... At Least 12 Thought to Be Exposed... US Visas Held By 13,500 People In Three Ebola Countries... TOP DOC: More will be infected... www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2014/10/01/texas-ebola-patient/16525649/Seal off Dallas TX, no one in or out til this thing in contained |
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Post by com6063 on Oct 1, 2014 15:47:29 GMT -5
Don't panic.
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Post by Ravenchamp on Oct 1, 2014 16:03:37 GMT -5
that's what they say
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Post by Evil Yoda on Oct 2, 2014 7:00:46 GMT -5
Ebola's bad because it's usually fatal. But it does not spread via vectors like the Plague does. The hazard is real but it is less than most people think. It would, however, be wise to curtail flights from Africa and deny admission to people who have recently visited the infected areas, until it is under control over there and for a few months afterwards. That's common sense, so I don't expect it from our government.
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Post by middleoftheroad on Oct 2, 2014 7:23:41 GMT -5
You folks are dreaming if you honestly believe Ebola or any other disease can long be held to a single geographic area. Frankly, I'm surprised it was kept out of the US this long. Even without our porous borders, air travel rising from increased international trade and communications and other exchanges makes the transmission of disease nearly inevitable. I heard this morning on WMAL on the way in that there is a suspicion of a case in Hawaii now.
This guy flew from Brussels, if I'm not mistaken and at least according to news stories, he was checked prior to boarding the flight to Brussels and demonstrated no signs of Ebola. Even were we to check every passenger departing from any where and coming to the US, we would still likely not catch and Ebola carrier, were he or she not at the point of contagious. We would need to check people, quarantine them for four days and then check again to prevent an incoming case of Ebola...not a very practical solution.
This fellow was sent home from the hospital in Texas prior to the formal diagnosis of Ebola because in our societal arrogance or naiveté, we don't believe such things can happen here. Even having been told that he had been in Liberia, the folks at the hospital could not make the leap that this individual may have a problem.
Fortunately, we have the technology and, hopefully, the will to track this person's contacts until we can identify the long chain that he has impacted and monitor the health of those folks.
This day has been long coming and the only practical solution now is to turn loose the scientific and medical minds of this nation to kill this disease once and for all.
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Post by howarewegoingtopay on Oct 2, 2014 9:53:32 GMT -5
Ebola's bad because it's usually fatal. But it does not spread via vectors like the Plague does. The hazard is real but it is less than most people think. It would, however, be wise to curtail flights from Africa and deny admission to people who have recently visited the infected areas, until it is under control over there and for a few months afterwards. That's common sense, so I don't expect it from our government. Does usually mean 50%, and that is in africa. Currently we are at 100% cure rate here, and I have heard that there is an expensive drug that helps someone recover. I expect we will get some number of cases, but I don't think it will run rampant like in africa, we have a different culture, and way better hygiene. |
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Post by vosa on Oct 2, 2014 11:10:19 GMT -5
Ebola's bad because it's usually fatal. But it does not spread via vectors like the Plague does. The hazard is real but it is less than most people think. It would, however, be wise to curtail flights from Africa and deny admission to people who have recently visited the infected areas, until it is under control over there and for a few months afterwards. That's common sense, so I don't expect it from our government. You're just being mean spirited. These undocumented "New patients" have a natural right to be here and sick people contribute to the growth of our economy. |
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Post by breakingbad on Oct 2, 2014 11:38:24 GMT -5
Isn't that how every zombie movie starts? |
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Post by breakingbad on Oct 2, 2014 11:38:44 GMT -5
Does Obamacare cover Ebola?
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Post by com6063 on Oct 2, 2014 11:44:19 GMT -5
Isn't that how every zombie movie starts? Hmmmmm; you do have a point.  |
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Post by Ravenchamp on Oct 2, 2014 13:26:08 GMT -5
This regime cant admit there is a problem with the chance of disease being brought in from outside because that could hurt their amnesty plans.
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Post by howarewegoingtopay on Oct 2, 2014 13:31:11 GMT -5
Does Obamacare cover Ebola? Sure, after the $12,000 deductible. |
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Post by Evil Yoda on Oct 2, 2014 14:00:36 GMT -5
Does usually mean 50%, and that is in africa. Currently we are at 100% cure rate here, and I have heard that there is an expensive drug that helps someone recover. I expect we will get some number of cases, but I don't think it will run rampant like in africa, we have a different culture, and way better hygiene. It depends on how bad the infection is, how sick the person gets before they seek medical care, their general health (some have better immune systems than others - something I'm sure Obama would like to correct by making all the healthy people sicker, after all, that's only fair), the care they receive, and the specific virus involved. There are a number in the genus. Fatalities run at around 50% worldwide right now, individual epidemics have shown anywhere from a 25% to a 90% fatality rate. |
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Post by middleoftheroad on Oct 2, 2014 14:10:30 GMT -5
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Post by howarewegoingtopay on Oct 2, 2014 14:18:10 GMT -5
He forgot to mention Ayers wanting to kill of 10-25% of the population. You can't cure stupid, and the stupid are the ones who support Farrakhan. He is just after the fame, and money, it sucks to get old and be ignored. He seems to miss the fact that the US will spend millions, and probably billions fighting the disease, if it was truly an attempt to wipe out a lot of blacks then why would be bother? Also why would Obama let it into this country? Oh!!! It must be a plot by Obama to wipe out all the blacks in this country  |
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Post by Evil Yoda on Oct 2, 2014 14:33:01 GMT -5
It would be a pretty poorly designed weapon if that were true, since it kills white people just as quickly as it does black people.
He's just hoping no one comes up with a virus that kills stupid people.
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Post by Ravenchamp on Oct 2, 2014 14:39:41 GMT -5
This well known threat was known about for a long time, It could have been avoided but this clown in DC let it happen.
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Post by Ravenchamp on Oct 2, 2014 14:53:59 GMT -5
UP TO 100 AT RISK OF EBOLA EXPOSURE IN TX...
PATIENT FAMILY ON LOCKDOWN...
CASE INVESTIGATED IN UTAH...
SCARE IN HAWAII...
UN FEARS COULD GO AIRBORNE...
drudgereport.com
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Post by middleoftheroad on Oct 2, 2014 15:26:55 GMT -5
This well known threat was known about for a long time, It could have been avoided but this clown in DC let it happen. I disagree; ebola in the US was only a matter of time. Fortunately, we had begun gearing up based on the spread in Africa so we are in better shape than we otherwise might have been. To argue however, that ebola was not coming to the US is simply not realistic. |
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Post by howarewegoingtopay on Oct 2, 2014 18:06:51 GMT -5
This well known threat was known about for a long time, It could have been avoided but this clown in DC let it happen. I disagree; ebola in the US was only a matter of time. Fortunately, we had begun gearing up based on the spread in Africa so we are in better shape than we otherwise might have been. To argue however, that ebola was not coming to the US is simply not realistic. Do you think it isn't realistic to think that it might have slowed the spread in the US a lot if we kept people who have been in africa away for 20 days? |
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Post by middleoftheroad on Oct 2, 2014 18:20:00 GMT -5
I disagree; ebola in the US was only a matter of time. Fortunately, we had begun gearing up based on the spread in Africa so we are in better shape than we otherwise might have been. To argue however, that ebola was not coming to the US is simply not realistic. Do you think it isn't realistic to think that it might have slowed the spread in the US a lot if we kept people who have been in africa away for 20 days? Of course... but how do you enforce it? Making a rule or a law or a regulation that cannot be enforced is a waste of time. |
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Post by howarewegoingtopay on Oct 2, 2014 19:38:17 GMT -5
Do you think it isn't realistic to think that it might have slowed the spread in the US a lot if we kept people who have been in africa away for 20 days? Of course... but how do you enforce it? Making a rule or a law or a regulation that cannot be enforced is a waste of time. It is easy to enforce, don't have any flights from africa to the US, and check passport records as to where someone has been before letting them in. You can also setup quarantine camps for those exposed. So yes it can be enforce, will it? No I agree that it is unlikely with our president that there is the will to enforce it. So expect some americans to die. |
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Post by Ravenchamp on Oct 2, 2014 21:42:44 GMT -5
I disagree; ebola in the US was only a matter of time. Fortunately, we had begun gearing up based on the spread in Africa so we are in better shape than we otherwise might have been. To argue however, that ebola was not coming to the US is simply not realistic. Do you think it isn't realistic to think that it might have slowed the spread in the US a lot if we kept people who have been in africa away for 20 days? thats right, all we had to do was seal off anyone who had contact in the country of origin. another major US Govt failure |
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Post by com6063 on Oct 3, 2014 8:03:11 GMT -5
I think the treatment of the sick man's family members in Dallas by the CDC and others is just appalling.
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