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Post by Ravenchamp on Oct 22, 2014 14:53:25 GMT -5
Drugmakers to join forces to make millions of Ebola vaccine doses LONDON, Oct 22 (Reuters) - Leading drugmakers plan to work together to speed up the development of an Ebola vaccine and hope to produce millions of doses for use next year. Europe is also expected to announce 200 million euros ($250 million) of funding to develop new Ebola vaccines, drugs and diagnostic tests, sources said on Wednesday. U.S. firm Johnson & Johnson said it aims to produce at least 1 million doses of its two-step vaccine next year and has already discussed collaboration with Britain's GlaxoSmithKline, which is working on a rival vaccine. The economics of an Ebola vaccine are still unclear but drug companies with an eye on their reputations are under pressure to respond to the major international health crisis now ravaging one of the poorest corners of Africa. finance.yahoo.com/news/j-j-aims-1-million-071307735.html;_ylt=A0LEVzO8CkhUt6gAFhdXNyoA |
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Post by Evil Yoda on Oct 22, 2014 15:28:32 GMT -5
Sure. Now that people are good and afraid of it, there's money to be made. They'll be trying to get you to get a shot every time you visit the doctor for an annual physical, too. I think I'll wait awhile. My rule of thumb is wait ten years on a new drug; that's usually long enough to reveal any problems that the drugmaker might have "forgotten" to mention in its FDA paperwork.  |
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Post by Ravenchamp on Oct 22, 2014 15:32:38 GMT -5
I agree Yoda, where was it before the big threat?
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Post by rocketwolf on Oct 22, 2014 15:59:31 GMT -5
I wouldn't think it would be much use here, but in Africa there would be the market.
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Post by howarewegoingtopay on Oct 22, 2014 16:14:27 GMT -5
I wouldn't think it would be much use here, but in Africa there would be the market. Especially if us rich Americans fund it. |
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Post by rocketwolf on Oct 22, 2014 16:15:56 GMT -5
I wouldn't think it would be much use here, but in Africa there would be the market. Especially if us rich Americans fund it. You don't expect people that live in mud huts to pay do you? |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 22, 2014 16:31:48 GMT -5
But for the single death in from the disease on US soil, I doubt that American Big Pharma would have been kicked into any real action on it at all.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 22, 2014 17:17:26 GMT -5
What other countries are working on a vaccine?
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Post by Deleted on Oct 22, 2014 17:57:59 GMT -5
What other countries are working on a vaccine? According to the link in the opening post, Britain's GSK have been working on one for 10 years. Europe has commited $250.000.000 to producing one. It's not just about vaccines, it's about programs to deal with and defeat the disease, which currently Cuba are punching well above their weight. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 22, 2014 17:59:49 GMT -5
That is good to know.
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Post by howarewegoingtopay on Oct 22, 2014 18:22:01 GMT -5
Especially if us rich Americans fund it. You don't expect people that live in mud huts to pay do you? It isn't so much expect them to pay, but can they pay. To me it should be up to them, why should US taxpayers pay? Now if international charities would like to pay, or the countries where these poor live wish to sell off resources to pay, then I am all for it. |
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Post by howarewegoingtopay on Oct 22, 2014 18:23:07 GMT -5
What other countries are working on a vaccine? According to the link in the opening post, Britain's GSK have been working on one for 10 years. Europe has commited $250.000.000 to producing one. It's not just about vaccines, it's about programs to deal with and defeat the disease, which currently Cuba are punching well above their weight. You have said Cuba is punching above their weight, but given their tack record of lies I would like to read your source on that. Do you have a link? |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 22, 2014 18:29:54 GMT -5
According to the link in the opening post, Britain's GSK have been working on one for 10 years. Europe has commited $250.000.000 to producing one. It's not just about vaccines, it's about programs to deal with and defeat the disease, which currently Cuba are punching well above their weight. You have said Cuba is punching above their weight, but given their tack record of lies I would like to read your source on that. Do you have a link? Will the BBC do, are they reputable enough for you? www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-latin-america-29732291 |
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Post by howarewegoingtopay on Oct 22, 2014 18:35:11 GMT -5
You have said Cuba is punching above their weight, but given their tack record of lies I would like to read your source on that. Do you have a link? Will the BBC do, are they reputable enough for you? www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-latin-america-29732291Thanks. It does look like they are stepping up. I wonder why?  I also wonder if the doctors are going voluntarily. It would be a pleasant surprise if they were. |
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Post by rocketwolf on Oct 22, 2014 18:38:08 GMT -5
Cuba has a long history of sending Doctors and others to Africa.
I doubt they were all volunteers.
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Post by Evil Yoda on Oct 22, 2014 19:25:48 GMT -5
I wouldn't think it would be much use here, but in Africa there would be the market. They will try like crazy to build a market here. Down in Texas, Merck got lawmakers to *mandate* Gardisil injections for children, long before the drug was proven safe by years of use. That was eventually struck down, but... that's the kind of people who run drug companies. Profits are their sole motivation. |
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Post by howarewegoingtopay on Oct 22, 2014 19:28:13 GMT -5
I wouldn't think it would be much use here, but in Africa there would be the market. They will try like crazy to build a market here. Down in Texas, Merck got lawmakers to *mandate* Gardisil injections for children, long before the drug was proven safe by years of use. That was eventually struck down, but... that's the kind of people who run drug companies. Profits are their sole motivation. I am sure they would love to have a vaccine, not a cure. There is a WAY bigger market selling a vaccine to people who will never be exposed to Ebola. Like you say they could mandate that all school children get this vaccine (it's for the children don't you know ). |
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Post by redleg on Oct 22, 2014 19:43:54 GMT -5
They will try like crazy to build a market here. Down in Texas, Merck got lawmakers to *mandate* Gardisil injections for children, long before the drug was proven safe by years of use. That was eventually struck down, but... that's the kind of people who run drug companies. Profits are their sole motivation. I am sure they would love to have a vaccine, not a cure. There is a WAY bigger market selling a vaccine to people who will never be exposed to Ebola. Like you say they could mandate that all school children get this vaccine (it's for the children don't you know ). And I'm sure that Klain will be in the forefront of figuring out how The Puppet and his fellow travelers can cash in on it. Watch for "the government" to step in and simply take any vaccine that does come out. "For the children" of course. |
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Post by aboutwell on Oct 22, 2014 21:59:17 GMT -5
Sure. Now that people are good and afraid of it, there's money to be made. They'll be trying to get you to get a shot every time you visit the doctor for an annual physical, too. I think I'll wait awhile. My rule of thumb is wait ten years on a new drug; that's usually long enough to reveal any problems that the drugmaker might have "forgotten" to mention in its FDA paperwork. Heck... just like the flu shots that you can get at your local pharmacy... None of my family take them... |
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Post by aboutwell on Oct 22, 2014 22:01:20 GMT -5
What other countries are working on a vaccine? According to the link in the opening post, Britain's GSK have been working on one for 10 years. Europe has commited $250.000.000 to producing one. It's not just about vaccines, it's about programs to deal with and defeat the disease, which currently Cuba are punching well above their weight. U.S. been working on it for about the same period of time... since 2003 I think... |
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Post by kemmer on Oct 23, 2014 0:21:32 GMT -5
Why would US grant money make an Ebola vaccine a priority? Between the gay lobby and everyone putting on pink for breast cancer, American priorities tend to be about things that kill us here, at home. Squeaky wheels, and all that. (Not to mention, there's always the risk for another killer flu, a la 1918-- and we don't want to GO to antibiotic-resistant TB-- and MERS, et al.) We have plenty of threats here at home to spend research money on, without fussing about viruses that strike a tiny number of people, far, far away.
Until this outbreak of Ebola, malaria was the primary "affecting large numbers, far, far away" disease of choice. (And, next year, it might be again.)
It's not always about profits. Sometimes, it's about how to allocate resources when there are so many competing supplicants begging for cash for their own, pet diseases...and charity beginning at home.
Yeah, when the money starts flowing to a disease or condition, lots of companies--and universities-- will step up to cabbage some of that cash. Why wouldn't they?
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Post by Deleted on Oct 23, 2014 7:27:26 GMT -5
I wouldn't think it would be much use here, but in Africa there would be the market. They will try like crazy to build a market here. Down in Texas, Merck got lawmakers to *mandate* Gardisil injections for children, long before the drug was proven safe by years of use. That was eventually struck down, but... that's the kind of people who run drug companies. Profits are their sole motivation. I wonder what came first, the "Ebola scare" or the knowledge by the pharmaceutical companies of when the vaccine would be ready. It couldn't possibly be that our U.S. government, foreign governments, and drug companies are all in cahoots with each other. |
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Post by Evil Yoda on Oct 23, 2014 8:26:17 GMT -5
And here's them socializing the risk. Wonder whether they'll socialize the profits? Wait... no, I don't. |
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Post by com6063 on Oct 23, 2014 10:26:52 GMT -5
Has there ever been a successful vaccine for a virus?
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Post by Deleted on Oct 23, 2014 12:14:15 GMT -5
Has there ever been a successful vaccine for a virus? Umm, Mumps, Measles, Chicken Pox? How are you defining successful? |
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