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Post by Ranger John on Nov 22, 2014 15:19:55 GMT -5
Once again, I've put together a list of everyone I can think of that would be remotely positioned to run. Former candidates, current governors, prominent congress critters, prominent members of the Bush team, and Ben Carson.
Looking through the list, if the Democrats do run Hillary, they're going to have a serious problem with the "bitter old white men meme" with almost anyone on this list (especially given how bitter, old and white Hillary is), unless the GOP is stupid enough to run McCain, Romney, Boehner or McConnell (all of which I consider unlikely - though it's fair enough to say we were stupid enough to run two of those before).
I know there's been a lot of people talking about Ben Carson. He's clearly a very intelligent guy, genuinely conservative, and refreshingly not much of a creature of Washington. Plus, being a black man, he will cause many heads to explode in the Democrat party. However, he lacks the practical executive experience he ought to have to be President. If we're going to put up a black person, Powell or Rice would be a better pick. It's better to sacrifice a little ideological purity in exchange for competent experienced administrators.
If we must consider 'diversity,' I'd like to suggest a Susana Martinez/Nikki Haley ticket. Martinez is a popular, capable, Republican governor of a nominally blue state, and Haley is an equally capable governor with solid conservative street cred. Unlike Carson who only addresses the 'bitter' and 'white' pieces of the Democrat's primary political platform, there is nothing remotely bitter, old, white or male about either Martinez or Haley. Plus, the Latino vote is imminently winnable for the Republicans... not so much the black vote, even if the candidate is Carson.
If diversity is not a factor (and realistically it is), I'd want Scott Walker who has successfully fought off a continuous onslaught of left-wing extremism and managed to turn back the scourge of unionism in one of it's birth places. He is a genuine conservative governor of a deep-blue state who's managed to successfully defeat the Democrats every time they've come at him.
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Post by aboutwell on Nov 22, 2014 16:19:36 GMT -5
You forgot Chris McDaniel... and he is considering it...
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Post by Ranger John on Nov 22, 2014 16:21:20 GMT -5
You forgot Chris McDaniel... and he is considering it... It's not so much that I forgot him as I was unaware that he exists. |
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Post by aboutwell on Nov 22, 2014 16:26:15 GMT -5
I'm not surprised... the most hotly contested U.S. Senate campaign in the U.S. this year...
My Facebook status:
"I consider Obama's plan an unconstitutional power grab and support the overwhelming majority of Mississippians who oppose unilateral presidential action on amnesty."
Chris McDaniel
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How is Chris McDaniel supposed to know what the "overwhelming majority" of Mississippians want?... or is it just what Chris McDaniel wants?...
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Post by Ranger John on Nov 22, 2014 16:36:04 GMT -5
I'm not surprised... the most hotly contested U.S. Senate campaign in the U.S. this year... My Facebook status:"I consider Obama's plan an unconstitutional power grab and support the overwhelming majority of Mississippians who oppose unilateral presidential action on amnesty."
Chris McDaniel
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How is Chris McDaniel supposed to know what the "overwhelming majority" of Mississippians want?... or is it just what Chris McDaniel wants?...The guy lost in the primary to Thad Cochran. I think you can make a good argument that it was the ugliest US Senate campaign this year, but I don't really consider him a viable candidate. |
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Post by stevez51 on Nov 22, 2014 17:52:27 GMT -5
If I vote for Christie I would love to hear the comments from the sensitive left about his weight ......
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Post by Ranger John on Nov 22, 2014 18:04:10 GMT -5
If I vote for Christie I would love to hear the comments from the sensitive left about his weight ...... Christie is an interesting possibility. I'm sure he'd give as good as he got. |
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Post by husagafella on Nov 22, 2014 18:29:02 GMT -5
Doesn't matter, a Republican will never win the presidency again. The Republican party has run its course as have others throughout history.
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Post by Ranger John on Nov 22, 2014 18:45:50 GMT -5
Doesn't matter, a Republican will never win the presidency again. The Republican party has run its course as have others throughout history. Sure. You know... they control a majority of the US House, the US Senate, most of the governorships, most of the state legislative chambers. But it's still run its course. LMAO husaga, if Hillary decides not to run (or, you know, strokes out), which one of the candidates on this list loses to ANY of the Democratic bench? |
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Post by aboutwell on Nov 22, 2014 19:52:46 GMT -5
I'm not surprised... the most hotly contested U.S. Senate campaign in the U.S. this year... My Facebook status:"I consider Obama's plan an unconstitutional power grab and support the overwhelming majority of Mississippians who oppose unilateral presidential action on amnesty."
Chris McDaniel
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How is Chris McDaniel supposed to know what the "overwhelming majority" of Mississippians want?... or is it just what Chris McDaniel wants?...The guy lost in the primary to Thad Cochran. I think you can make a good argument that it was the ugliest US Senate campaign this year, but I don't really consider him a viable candidate. You might want to tell him that... the guy claims Cochran stole it from him... he's still fighting it... posting even as late as today... |
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Post by Ranger John on Nov 22, 2014 20:12:28 GMT -5
The guy lost in the primary to Thad Cochran. I think you can make a good argument that it was the ugliest US Senate campaign this year, but I don't really consider him a viable candidate. You might want to tell him that... the guy claims Cochran stole it from him... he's still fighting it... posting even as late as today... This is just more reason he's not a viable presidential candidate. Cochran's behavior was utterly vile during the primary campaign, but I don't think anyone seriously thinks he lost the election. |
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Post by aboutwell on Nov 23, 2014 0:00:33 GMT -5
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Post by Evil Yoda on Nov 24, 2014 17:06:55 GMT -5
Doesn't matter, a Republican will never win the presidency again. The Republican party has run its course as have others throughout history. Maryland Democrats probably thought that about the governor's chair here. |
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Post by rentedmule on Nov 24, 2014 17:21:59 GMT -5
Doesn't matter, a Republican will never win the presidency again. The Republican party has run its course as have others throughout history. I doubt it! I find the candidates who lose to be the most effective at changing and influencing the American political discussion. In my lifetime the two most culturally effective political actors were Barry Goldwater and Ross Perot. The "death of a party" has occurred many times recently! After the Democrat debacles of '68 and '72 the same comments were made about that party. |
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Post by davinci on Dec 31, 2014 9:08:08 GMT -5
I can't find this guy on the list.Jeb Bush surges to double-digit lead among 2016 GOP presidential contendersFormer Florida Gov. Jeb Bush broke away from the pack in the latest CNN/ORC poll with a 10-point lead over Gov. Chris Christie of New Jersey. But a Rasmussen poll released Monday finds likely Republican voters split on whether they want another Bush in the White House. link
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Post by howarewegoingtopay on Dec 31, 2014 9:24:44 GMT -5
For once I agree with davinci. I wouldn't vote for Jeb at the convention, but he certainly is getting traction from the left leaning media. They love to push a moderate so that he can lose against their candidates.
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Post by alienrace on Dec 31, 2014 9:47:56 GMT -5
Doesn't matter, a Republican will never win the presidency again. The Republican party has run its course as have others throughout history. Wow talk about having your head(or little head) in the sand! |
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Post by Ranger John on Dec 31, 2014 10:52:20 GMT -5
I can't find this guy on the list.Jeb Bush surges to double-digit lead among 2016 GOP presidential contendersFormer Florida Gov. Jeb Bush broke away from the pack in the latest CNN/ORC poll with a 10-point lead over Gov. Chris Christie of New Jersey. But a Rasmussen poll released Monday finds likely Republican voters split on whether they want another Bush in the White House. link Just click 'nominate someone else in a post' and problem solved. I don't think Jeb has a prayer. Then again, the GOP was stupid enough to nominate Romney. The only candidate on the bench that couldn't effectively attack Obamacare - Obama's Achilles heel. So perhaps you're right and we'll nominate the only Candidate that can't effectively attack Hillary's Achilles heel: the fact that she's a Clinton or a Bush. |
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Post by Evil Yoda on Dec 31, 2014 14:37:30 GMT -5
The fact that someone picked Romney and someone else picked Palin may be more indicative of GOP dysfunction than anything.
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Post by aboutwell on Dec 31, 2014 14:51:18 GMT -5
The fact the fact that Palin, Bauchman, and Brewer are even on the list speaks volumes for the GOP...  |
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Post by Ranger John on Dec 31, 2014 14:55:18 GMT -5
The fact the fact that Palin, Bauchman, and Brewer are even on the list speaks volumes for the GOP... Did you see the other side? |
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Post by aboutwell on Dec 31, 2014 15:00:36 GMT -5
No... and I didn't look for it...
Did you make one for "them?"...
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Post by aboutwell on Dec 31, 2014 17:01:26 GMT -5
No... and I didn't look for it... Did you make one for "them?"... Where are you, Ranger John?... did you post the other list?... I'd like to see it... I know you're here... at least, you're logged in... |
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Post by Ranger John on Dec 31, 2014 17:23:40 GMT -5
No... and I didn't look for it... Did you make one for "them?"... Where are you, Ranger John?... did you post the other list?... I'd like to see it... I know you're here... at least, you're logged in... Yeah. The list was originally posted a few days before this was originally posted. Maybe go look back on page 3 or 4. |
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Post by aboutwell on Dec 31, 2014 17:40:40 GMT -5
I found it... had a different kind of title... the only funny on that list would have to be Lee...
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