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Post by aboutwell on Nov 23, 2014 17:08:06 GMT -5
Anybody who says he "knows" what a group of politicians is going to do is either woefully ignorant of our political history or a damned fool. Or both. Or neither...
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Post by aboutwell on Nov 23, 2014 17:09:53 GMT -5
Pretty much says it all, doesn't it? There was really no need to add anything. "cept "Oh, me" from a couple of you guys... Stick around... call me out when it happens... I'll be around somewhere... maybe...
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Post by stevez51 on Nov 23, 2014 17:09:48 GMT -5
Sometimes we forget the wisdom of those who bothered to compose the Constitution and set the foundation of our Republic. I'm not sure why impeachment is always viewed in the lens of a jurist. It doesn't seem to have anything to do with Law. Several of the founders fretted about the possibility of a tyrant being skillful enough and powerful enough to abrogate government. With our current massive bureaucracy the legislative branch is effectively just a symbol of our heritage - some folk feel the executive can govern most effectively and efficiently. My point is that the intent of impeachment was not to be a legal process at all, but to be a legislative process in order to solve a usurping of government. I suppose similar to the notion of jury nullification - not a pretty action but one to be done in desperation. In crass terms,a POLITICAL solution. The state of Texas has just approved historical textbooks teaching that Moses had a great influence on the writing of our Constitution... therefore was one of our Founding Fathers... He don't post here anymore .....
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Post by rocketwolf on Nov 23, 2014 17:12:17 GMT -5
We have noticed. I sure don't "think" with regard to you... A pattern you have.
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Post by aboutwell on Nov 23, 2014 17:13:43 GMT -5
I sure don't "think" with regard to you... A pattern you have. Yes... due to extensive training, I am able to recognize some things much quicker than some other folks... this is one of those things... I had you pegged some time ago...
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Post by redleg on Nov 23, 2014 20:41:42 GMT -5
"therefore was one of our Founding Fathers..." Is that conclusion yours or of the state of Texas? According to the article, the so-called christians in the state of Texas... Christian conservatives win, children lose: Texas textbooks will teach public school students that the Founding Fathers based the Constitution on the Bible, and the American system of democracy was inspired by Moses.
On Friday the Republican-controlled Texas State Board of Education voted along party lines 10-5 to approve the biased and inaccurate textbooks. The vote signals a victory for Christian conservatives in Texas, and a disappointing defeat for historical accuracy and the education of innocent children.
The textbooks were written to align with instructional standards that the Board of Education approved back in 2010 with the explicit intention of forcing social studies teaching to adhere to a conservative Christian agenda. The standards require teachers to emphasize America’s so called “Christian heritage.”
The Bible, and the Ten Commandments, and therefore Moses, were huge contributing factors to both the Declaration of Independence and the Constitution. Nothing in your quote indicates that Moses is being portrayed as a "Founding Father".
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Post by rocketwolf on Nov 23, 2014 22:26:05 GMT -5
Yes... due to extensive training, I am able to recognize some things much quicker than some other folks... this is one of those things... I had you pegged some time ago... Yeah you are a tent peg
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Post by aboutwell on Nov 23, 2014 23:08:45 GMT -5
According to the article, the so-called christians in the state of Texas... Christian conservatives win, children lose: Texas textbooks will teach public school students that the Founding Fathers based the Constitution on the Bible, and the American system of democracy was inspired by Moses.
On Friday the Republican-controlled Texas State Board of Education voted along party lines 10-5 to approve the biased and inaccurate textbooks. The vote signals a victory for Christian conservatives in Texas, and a disappointing defeat for historical accuracy and the education of innocent children.
The textbooks were written to align with instructional standards that the Board of Education approved back in 2010 with the explicit intention of forcing social studies teaching to adhere to a conservative Christian agenda. The standards require teachers to emphasize America’s so called “Christian heritage.”
The Bible, and the Ten Commandments, and therefore Moses, were huge contributing factors to both the Declaration of Independence and the Constitution. Nothing in your quote indicates that Moses is being portrayed as a "Founding Father". Only the headline does... "Texas approves textbooks with Moses as Founding Father" www.patheos.com/blogs/progressivesecularhumanist/2014/11/texas-approves-textbooks-with-moses-as-founding-father/
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Post by rentedmule on Nov 24, 2014 6:41:43 GMT -5
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Post by aboutwell on Nov 24, 2014 10:41:09 GMT -5
I know, RM... I've seen that information myself... and I actually "believe" it's true... And my state is right there at the top in that hypocrisy... And there are numerous other "sources" for the Texas story... Here
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Post by redleg on Nov 24, 2014 11:32:21 GMT -5
Which means you either have a "reporter" with a Marxist agenda to support, or one that hasn't read the information.
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Post by rentedmule on Nov 24, 2014 13:22:58 GMT -5
Some of you possibly misunderstand how state sponsored schools work! They are chartered to be Managers of Virtue. Just this weekend a State sponsored school in my city, Morgan State University, sponsored a visit and speech by Luis Farrakhan. I was not there but I doubt he discussed space aliens and other items of intellectual curiosity. According to the news report he was angry that government was encouraging 'pacification' regarding the incident in Ferguson. We know from experience that any genuine intellectuals would not be "appropriate" for a state sponsored school. A Thomas Sowell or Niall Ferguson would not meet the needs of the culture attending that school. If only Malcolm X had lived he could have cashed in on the lecture tour!
Note: Sheldon Cooper made it through a Texas public school. Most of us have!
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Post by vosa on Nov 24, 2014 13:44:20 GMT -5
It's common knowledge that you know everything. A pity though for this vast intellect to be wasted upon such a small pond as this one. You may "think" I know everything... but I certainly "know" I don't... but I do "know" a hell of a lot more about some things discussed here than some others here "know"... and then there are some things that others know more about than I do... from which I tend to stay away... this is not one of those things... So you avoid people who know more about something than you do.
That explains a lot including why Mississippi is 43rd out of 51 in education.
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Post by aboutwell on Nov 24, 2014 14:14:28 GMT -5
Which means you either have a "reporter" with a Marxist agenda to support, or one that hasn't read the information. Or... you could go to a number of official Texas websites and read the same thing...
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Post by aboutwell on Nov 24, 2014 14:18:49 GMT -5
You may "think" I know everything... but I certainly "know" I don't... but I do "know" a hell of a lot more about some things discussed here than some others here "know"... and then there are some things that others know more about than I do... from which I tend to stay away... this is not one of those things... So you avoid people who know more about something than you do.
That explains a lot including why Mississippi is 43rd out of 51 in education.
I did say "some" things... (such as rocket technology... or certain hobbies)... and have we moved up?... I thought we were 50th... or 51st... good news... we'must be on the move...
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Post by redleg on Nov 24, 2014 22:32:24 GMT -5
Which means you either have a "reporter" with a Marxist agenda to support, or one that hasn't read the information. Or... you could go to a number of official Texas websites and read the same thing... That Moses is now being claimed as a "Founder"? I doubt that very seriously. Alynski as Founder in a CA school, maybe, but Texas has more respect for history and reality than that.
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Post by aboutwell on Nov 24, 2014 23:22:18 GMT -5
Or... you could go to a number of official Texas websites and read the same thing... That Moses is now being claimed as a "Founder"? I doubt that very seriously. Alynski as Founder in a CA school, maybe, but Texas has more respect for history and reality than that. Check it out... you'll find it to be true... I didn't provide as link because I don't want you to believe me...
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Post by rocketwolf on Nov 25, 2014 19:36:36 GMT -5
That Moses is now being claimed as a "Founder"? I doubt that very seriously. Alynski as Founder in a CA school, maybe, but Texas has more respect for history and reality than that. Check it out... you'll find it to be true... I didn't provide as link because I don't want you to believe me... Now there is something that we know you have really succeeded at, not many believe you.
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Post by aboutwell on Nov 25, 2014 19:45:00 GMT -5
Check it out... you'll find it to be true... I didn't provide as link because I don't want you to believe me... Now there is something that we know you have really succeeded at, not many believe you. And I don't really care if there are some who don't... I didn't come here to be believed... I'd much rather people convince themselves...
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