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Post by Evil Yoda on Jul 29, 2015 14:24:15 GMT -5
She'd lose to Bush, Walker and Rubio in several swing states: Colorado, Iowa and Virginia. If Trump sticks with it, or runs as an Independent, he could very well Perot the Republicans. Of course, that very much depends on who's up next for the Dems if Hillary doesn't get the nod. Sanders has zero chance of winning; this country will not elect a self-described socialist, I opine. Article
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Post by Ranger John on Jul 29, 2015 14:46:00 GMT -5
She'd lose to Bush, Walker and Rubio in several swing states: Colorado, Iowa and Virginia. If Trump sticks with it, or runs as an Independent, he could very well Perot the Republicans. Of course, that very much depends on who's up next for the Dems if Hillary doesn't get the nod. Sanders has zero chance of winning; this country will not elect a self-described socialist, I opine. ArticleWho's your alternative to Hillary? If it's not her, and it's not Sanders, that leaves O'Malley who's incompetent. The only declared candidate that would have a shot of appearing reasonable and intelligent is Jim Webb, and I don't think the Democratic base will tolerate him. The other alternatives are Warren (who's just as socialist and loony-toon as Sanders), and Biden who's a nit-wit and a serial public rapist under the definition typically accepted by the radical feminists in the party base (unwanted touching).
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Post by rocketwolf on Jul 29, 2015 15:30:33 GMT -5
If Clinton goes down in flames Trump is the only hope the Dems have. Of course the Dems know this and will nominate her as long as she can
Fog a mirror outside of a jail cell.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 29, 2015 15:41:22 GMT -5
I am still trying to understand what would make her a good president
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Post by Ravenchamp on Jul 29, 2015 15:55:55 GMT -5
She's the wrong choice period, for anything
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Post by Ranger John on Jul 29, 2015 16:00:10 GMT -5
If Clinton goes down in flames Trump is the only hope the Dems have. Of course the Dems know this and will nominate her as long as she can Fog a mirror outside of a jail cell. If Hillary goes down in flames, I wouldn't be shocked if Trump switches parties.
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Post by aboutwell on Jul 29, 2015 16:44:01 GMT -5
Wake up guys, and gal... it's late afternoon... but it is fun to read your fantasies... It's too early to be picking winners, you know...
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Post by Evil Yoda on Jul 29, 2015 17:07:51 GMT -5
Who's your alternative to Hillary? If it's not her, and it's not Sanders, that leaves O'Malley who's incompetent. Fortunately, that is not my problem to solve. The other alternatives are Warren (who's just as socialist and loony-toon as Sanders), and Biden who's a nit-wit and a serial public rapist under the definition typically accepted by the radical feminists in the party base (unwanted touching). While I like Warren (chiefly because Wall St. doesn't, and I despise bankers), I agree she has zero chance of being elected. If Hillary implodes, it might just be Biden. When the internecine battles die down Bush will be one of the survivors. Which is just a sad comment on the choices. His brother was a nincompoop and I've heard nothing from him suggesting he's any smarter.
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Post by rentedmule on Jul 29, 2015 17:53:00 GMT -5
Who's your alternative to Hillary? If it's not her, and it's not Sanders, that leaves O'Malley who's incompetent. Fortunately, that is not my problem to solve. The other alternatives are Warren (who's just as socialist and loony-toon as Sanders), and Biden who's a nit-wit and a serial public rapist under the definition typically accepted by the radical feminists in the party base (unwanted touching). While I like Warren (chiefly because Wall St. doesn't, and I despise bankers), I agree she has zero chance of being elected. If Hillary implodes, it might just be Biden. When the internecine battles die down Bush will be one of the survivors. Which is just a sad comment on the choices. His brother was a nincompoop and I've heard nothing from him suggesting he's any smarter. Spoken like a genuine Jacksonian Democrat. A bit dated perhaps, but a very reasonable position.
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Post by Ranger John on Jul 29, 2015 18:23:39 GMT -5
Who's your alternative to Hillary? If it's not her, and it's not Sanders, that leaves O'Malley who's incompetent. Fortunately, that is not my problem to solve. The other alternatives are Warren (who's just as socialist and loony-toon as Sanders), and Biden who's a nit-wit and a serial public rapist under the definition typically accepted by the radical feminists in the party base (unwanted touching). While I like Warren (chiefly because Wall St. doesn't, and I despise bankers), I agree she has zero chance of being elected. If Hillary implodes, it might just be Biden. When the internecine battles die down Bush will be one of the survivors. Which is just a sad comment on the choices. His brother was a nincompoop and I've heard nothing from him suggesting he's any smarter. I understand you despise bankers. But, she's very popular amongst Wall Street's Lawyers. And in fact, with her wealth, I'm pretty sure Wall Street likes her just fine. And then there's the whole "I'm an Indian" thing she used to take advantage of various university affirmative action programs.
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Post by Evil Yoda on Jul 29, 2015 20:21:45 GMT -5
Spoken like a genuine Jacksonian Democrat. A bit dated perhaps, but a very reasonable position. I recognize the value of rental capital in helping businesses grow. The problem is that the people presently in the business are the greediest and least principled of us.
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Post by redleg on Jul 30, 2015 9:13:27 GMT -5
She'd lose to Bush, Walker and Rubio in several swing states: Colorado, Iowa and Virginia. If Trump sticks with it, or runs as an Independent, he could very well Perot the Republicans. Of course, that very much depends on who's up next for the Dems if Hillary doesn't get the nod. Sanders has zero chance of winning; this country will not elect a self-described socialist, I opine. ArticleIt's becoming more and more possible that she will wind up in an orange jumpsuit, despite the regime's desperation to avoid performing any of there responsibilities regarding her crimes. A sailor is facing up to 7 years in the pen for just having pix of classified equipment. Hillary gave classified info to China, probably NK, and no one knows who else, as long as they gave her money. That's espionage, and punishable by death. So why is she not in prison, awaiting trial, instead of allegedly running for President?
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Post by Evil Yoda on Jul 30, 2015 10:39:31 GMT -5
It's becoming more and more possible that she will wind up in an orange jumpsuit, despite the regime's desperation to avoid performing any of there responsibilities regarding her crimes. A sailor is facing up to 7 years in the pen for just having pix of classified equipment. Hillary gave classified info to China, probably NK, and no one knows who else, as long as they gave her money. That's espionage, and punishable by death. So why is she not in prison, awaiting trial, instead of allegedly running for President? I think it unlikely. We both know if you're wealthy, in this country, the law does not apply to you. If it did, the bankers who inflicted such deadly harm on the economy would be paying for their crimes. So would Cosby. So would a lot of wealthy people. But they're not. And for the same reason, Hillary will not. Her misdeeds might keep her from returning to 1600, though.
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Post by redleg on Jul 30, 2015 18:47:16 GMT -5
It's becoming more and more possible that she will wind up in an orange jumpsuit, despite the regime's desperation to avoid performing any of there responsibilities regarding her crimes. A sailor is facing up to 7 years in the pen for just having pix of classified equipment. Hillary gave classified info to China, probably NK, and no one knows who else, as long as they gave her money. That's espionage, and punishable by death. So why is she not in prison, awaiting trial, instead of allegedly running for President? I think it unlikely. We both know if you're wealthy, in this country, the law does not apply to you. If it did, the bankers who inflicted such deadly harm on the economy would be paying for their crimes. So would Cosby. So would a lot of wealthy people. But they're not. And for the same reason, Hillary will not. Her misdeeds might keep her from returning to 1600, though. With Hillary, it's not because of her wealth, it's because the Party of the KKK sees her as their only hope.
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Post by Ranger John on Jul 30, 2015 20:47:51 GMT -5
I think it unlikely. We both know if you're wealthy, in this country, the law does not apply to you. If it did, the bankers who inflicted such deadly harm on the economy would be paying for their crimes. So would Cosby. So would a lot of wealthy people. But they're not. And for the same reason, Hillary will not. Her misdeeds might keep her from returning to 1600, though. With Hillary, it's not because of her wealth, it's because the Party of the KKK sees her as their only hope. Sort of freaky, isn't it? Because there is literally NO ONE else on their bench that's even remotely capable of getting elected and pulling off the job of being president. Jim Webb is probably the only one capable of doing the job, and he's far too centrist to get the party base behind him. The rest are all a gaggle of insane, left-wing criminals and/or loonie-toons.
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Post by Evil Yoda on Jul 30, 2015 21:02:07 GMT -5
The rest are all a gaggle of insane, left-wing criminals and/or loonie-toons. The Pubs aren't all that much to write home about, either. They've got their share of nuts and criminals.
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Post by Ranger John on Jul 30, 2015 21:25:54 GMT -5
The rest are all a gaggle of insane, left-wing criminals and/or loonie-toons. The Pubs aren't all that much to write home about, either. They've got their share of nuts and criminals. There are a few. Trump and Christie come to mind (we've had 7 years of a massive ego who won't work with anyone in the White House, another term would be a bad idea). Jeb would be a mistake for other reasons. Overall though, you've got several governors with reasonably good records to pick from. It's a far better field than what the Democrats are offering.
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Post by kemmer on Jul 30, 2015 22:39:42 GMT -5
Whatever happened to Webb? I recall seeing that he announced himself as a candidate a while back. Did I miss his obituary or something?
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Post by rentedmule on Jul 31, 2015 5:24:21 GMT -5
Whatever happened to Webb? I recall seeing that he announced himself as a candidate a while back. Did I miss his obituary or something? The dismissal of James Webb is just another indicator that Americans actually view governance as a "vodoo" activity which requires the input of some wacko, or at least, populist. We seem NOT to desire intelligence, experience or a reasonable world view.
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Post by rocketwolf on Jul 31, 2015 5:33:07 GMT -5
My guess if we dont get Hilary we get Biden.
Now there is a sucko combination.
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Post by Ranger John on Jul 31, 2015 5:47:46 GMT -5
Whatever happened to Webb? I recall seeing that he announced himself as a candidate a while back. Did I miss his obituary or something? I assume he will show up in the debates. At least I hope he will. The Democrats desperately need a voice of reason. But, let's face it, he has zero chance with the base, which is more interested in someone who will 'punish their enemies' like Obama.
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Post by rentedmule on Jul 31, 2015 6:14:24 GMT -5
Whatever happened to Webb? I recall seeing that he announced himself as a candidate a while back. Did I miss his obituary or something? I assume he will show up in the debates. At least I hope he will. The Democrats desperately need a voice of reason. But, let's face it, he has zero chance with the base, which is more interested in someone who will 'punish their enemies' like Obama. I hope so also! I just don't get it! He seems made to be a Democrat! Was born on the public dole and has lived his entire life as a public servant and recipient. Has NEVER soiled his hands with usury or production. What's not to like?
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Post by Ranger John on Jul 31, 2015 6:20:56 GMT -5
I assume he will show up in the debates. At least I hope he will. The Democrats desperately need a voice of reason. But, let's face it, he has zero chance with the base, which is more interested in someone who will 'punish their enemies' like Obama. I hope so also! I just don't get it! He seems made to be a Democrat! Was born on the public dole and has lived his entire life as a public servant and recipient. Has NEVER soiled his hands with usury or production. What's not to like? Like I said, I just don't think he wants to punish republicans enough. Also, he is a white male which makes him both sexist and racist.
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Post by aboutwell on Jul 31, 2015 12:29:38 GMT -5
Whatever happened to Webb? I recall seeing that he announced himself as a candidate a while back. Did I miss his obituary or something? Webb is still in... but nobody knows him... and he is a Republican turned Democrat... was a part of the Reagan administration... does not sit well with Democrats...
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Post by Evil Yoda on Jul 31, 2015 14:15:20 GMT -5
The Pubs are putting up a lot of wing candidates. Let the Dems do the same, and answer the question of which philosophy Americans truly want.
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