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Post by Evil Yoda on Jul 8, 2016 9:11:41 GMT -5
Two civilians were also hit. Police have taken three into custody and killed a fourth following failed negotiations. That individual is the only one they know for sure was involved. He claimed that following recent police shootings he "wanted to kill white people". He claimed he was upset about Black Lives Matter but claimed no affiliation to any group. A tweet from an account claiming affiliation with BLM said, "Black Lives Matter advocates dignity, justice and freedom. Not murder." Mr. Obama, Mr. Trump, and Ms. Clinton all expressed sympathy and condolences. Article |
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Post by breakingbad on Jul 8, 2016 9:42:43 GMT -5
Black Power is claiming responsibility and says there will be more to come in the coming days. It will be interesting to see how our President will address this.
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Post by Cowboyz on Jul 8, 2016 10:02:33 GMT -5
So sad, sickening and scary as hell. "Wanted to kill white people" or did they want to kill cops? If they were targeting whites I think they made some mistakes and I fear retaliation by white supremacist groups. Keeping all of the victims and their families in my thoughts and hoping swift changes are made. Our society is truly of control and in a deep dark place that we may not be able to recover from anytime soon.  |
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Post by Evil Yoda on Jul 8, 2016 10:45:56 GMT -5
Black Power is claiming responsibility and says there will be more to come in the coming days. It will be interesting to see how our President will address this. The one shooter they cornered (whom they apparently dispatched with a bomb-equipped robot - not something I want the police using, really) claimed no affiliation. Any group responsible for this act should be entered into the rolls of domestic terror groups. |
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Post by aboutwell on Jul 8, 2016 11:04:17 GMT -5
Like I keep saying... as long as there is one individual... with a weapon... either foreign or domestic... this kind of stuff is going to continue to happen... there is nothing the President, Loretta Lynch, or anybody else can do about it... all we can do is be vigilant and always be aware of our surroundings...
"Brown, who declined to identify the suspect in his remarks to reporters, said Johnson was not affiliated with any other groups 'and stated that he did this alone.'"
"The suspect said he was upset about Black Lives Matter," Brown said. "He said he was upset about the recent police shootings. He said he was upset at white people. He said he wanted to kill white people, especially white officers."
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Post by breakingbad on Jul 8, 2016 11:43:21 GMT -5
Black Power is claiming responsibility and says there will be more to come in the coming days. It will be interesting to see how our President will address this. The one shooter they cornered (whom they apparently dispatched with a bomb-equipped robot - not something I want the police using, really) claimed no affiliation. Any group responsible for this act should be entered into the rolls of domestic terror groups. Hopefully there is no credibility to this story |
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Post by breakingbad on Jul 8, 2016 11:44:42 GMT -5
Like I keep saying... as long as there is one individual... with a weapon... either foreign or domestic... this kind of stuff is going to continue to happen... there is nothing the President, Loretta Lynch, or anybody else can do about it... all we can do is be vigilant and always be aware of our surroundings... "Brown, who declined to identify the suspect in his remarks to reporters, said Johnson was not affiliated with any other groups 'and stated that he did this alone.'" "The suspect said he was upset about Black Lives Matter," Brown said. "He said he was upset about the recent police shootings. He said he was upset at white people. He said he wanted to kill white people, especially white officers." Will Obama call this a "hate" crime? |
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Post by aboutwell on Jul 8, 2016 11:58:30 GMT -5
Like I keep saying... as long as there is one individual... with a weapon... either foreign or domestic... this kind of stuff is going to continue to happen... there is nothing the President, Loretta Lynch, or anybody else can do about it... all we can do is be vigilant and always be aware of our surroundings... "Brown, who declined to identify the suspect in his remarks to reporters, said Johnson was not affiliated with any other groups 'and stated that he did this alone.'" "The suspect said he was upset about Black Lives Matter," Brown said. "He said he was upset about the recent police shootings. He said he was upset at white people. He said he wanted to kill white people, especially white officers." Will Obama call this a "hate" crime? Don't know... but obviously that's what it was... the shooter admitted it... |
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Post by Ranger John on Jul 8, 2016 13:06:15 GMT -5
You know, I get BLM. There's a reason I don't live in a city. They're corrupt, dangerous places. If I lived in one, I'd probably think the government - and by extension the cops - we're all crooked and out to hassle me just because they can. That's the life the BLM crowd lives.
It doesn't come from racism though. It comes from Democrats. The people they elect, over and over, and over again and NEVER hold accountable until they get hauled off to jail. You elect crooked leaders, you get crooked, oppressive government. Crooked oppressive government leads to the feeling that you're being abused.
Whites don't suffer this way, because we tend to live in jurisdictions with at least two functioning political parties that act to keep each other in check.
I don't really think a Trump-led GOP is the answer here. I'm not sure I have an answer, other than the BLM crowd needs to understand the Democrats are the power structure in their lives. They understand the powers that be are part of the problem. But can they see the trees for the forest?
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Post by winston on Jul 8, 2016 13:22:55 GMT -5
You know, I get BLM. There's a reason I don't live in a city. They're corrupt, dangerous places. If I lived in one, I'd probably think the government - and by extension the cops - we're all crooked and out to hassle me just because they can. That's the life the BLM crowd lives. It doesn't come from racism though. It comes from Democrats. The people they elect, over and over, and over again and NEVER hold accountable until they get hauled off to jail. You elect crooked leaders, you get crooked, oppressive government. Crooked oppressive government leads to the feeling that you're being abused. Whites don't suffer this way, because we tend to live in jurisdictions with at least two functioning political parties that act to keep each other in check. I don't really think a Trump-led GOP is the answer here. I'm not sure I have an answer, other than the BLM crowd needs to understand the Democrats are the power structure in their lives. They understand the powers that be are part of the problem. But can they see the trees for the forest? You rather live around KKK |
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Post by Ravenchamp on Jul 8, 2016 13:24:26 GMT -5
Obama started this war on police by his increased racial tensions in America.
Was discussed all night on over night talk radio
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Post by redleg on Jul 8, 2016 13:25:50 GMT -5
Like I keep saying... as long as there is one individual... with a weapon... either foreign or domestic... this kind of stuff is going to continue to happen... there is nothing the President, Loretta Lynch, or anybody else can do about it... all we can do is be vigilant and always be aware of our surroundings... "Brown, who declined to identify the suspect in his remarks to reporters, said Johnson was not affiliated with any other groups 'and stated that he did this alone.'" "The suspect said he was upset about Black Lives Matter," Brown said. "He said he was upset about the recent police shootings. He said he was upset at white people. He said he wanted to kill white people, especially white officers." As long as we have pols that want to disarm us, you are correct. There is no response if one doesn't also have a firearm with which to respond. The current political climate has fostered this sort of mayhem. Far too many politicians see advantage in chaos, and are more than willing to foster such chaos, regardless of the effects on the people. It starts at the very top. |
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Post by redleg on Jul 8, 2016 13:28:35 GMT -5
You know, I get BLM. There's a reason I don't live in a city. They're corrupt, dangerous places. If I lived in one, I'd probably think the government - and by extension the cops - we're all crooked and out to hassle me just because they can. That's the life the BLM crowd lives. It doesn't come from racism though. It comes from Democrats. The people they elect, over and over, and over again and NEVER hold accountable until they get hauled off to jail. You elect crooked leaders, you get crooked, oppressive government. Crooked oppressive government leads to the feeling that you're being abused. Whites don't suffer this way, because we tend to live in jurisdictions with at least two functioning political parties that act to keep each other in check. I don't really think a Trump-led GOP is the answer here. I'm not sure I have an answer, other than the BLM crowd needs to understand the Democrats are the power structure in their lives. They understand the powers that be are part of the problem. But can they see the trees for the forest? You rather live around KKK That's exactly what BLM is. A black version of the KKK. Instead of burning crosses and lynchings, they play the "knockout game" and shoot people. Typical of Democrat policies, since their "policies" have been rejected by nearly everyone with any mind whatsoever, they resort to simply killing people. Dictators have done that since time immemorial and the Dems are no different. |
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Post by redleg on Jul 8, 2016 13:29:52 GMT -5
Obama started this war on police by his increased racial tensions in America. Was discussed all night on over night talk radio Notice that his first mention of both crimes automatically blamed the police. No evidence, no investigation yet, but obviously, since a black was shot, it has to be the police' fault. |
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Post by Evil Yoda on Jul 8, 2016 13:36:56 GMT -5
Yes, I found a version of that story. To me it looks like an organization camping on someone else's act. But we will see. As I said, any organization responsible for this act should be classified domestic terrorists and unmade. |
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Post by redleg on Jul 8, 2016 13:41:27 GMT -5
Yes, I found a version of that story. To me it looks like an organization camping on someone else's act. But we will see. As I said, any organization responsible for this act should be classified domestic terrorists and unmade. It's a black organization. Nothing will be done under this regime. After all, it's too important as a way to curtail more liberties. Since a criminal decided to shoot someone, the law abiding must be punished. The Puppet and his Merry Marxists are already blaming the firearms, not the shooters. |
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Post by Ranger John on Jul 8, 2016 14:18:21 GMT -5
You know, I get BLM. There's a reason I don't live in a city. They're corrupt, dangerous places. If I lived in one, I'd probably think the government - and by extension the cops - we're all crooked and out to hassle me just because they can. That's the life the BLM crowd lives. It doesn't come from racism though. It comes from Democrats. The people they elect, over and over, and over again and NEVER hold accountable until they get hauled off to jail. You elect crooked leaders, you get crooked, oppressive government. Crooked oppressive government leads to the feeling that you're being abused. Whites don't suffer this way, because we tend to live in jurisdictions with at least two functioning political parties that act to keep each other in check. I don't really think a Trump-led GOP is the answer here. I'm not sure I have an answer, other than the BLM crowd needs to understand the Democrats are the power structure in their lives. They understand the powers that be are part of the problem. But can they see the trees for the forest? You rather live around KKK The KKK isn't really a factor here. I'm sure there are still places in the US where they are. For the most part though, they're shrinking, impotent and reviled by pretty much everyone who's not a member. Nationally, they don't even come close to having the influence even BLM does. |
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Post by aboutwell on Jul 8, 2016 14:31:46 GMT -5
Like I keep saying... as long as there is one individual... with a weapon... either foreign or domestic... this kind of stuff is going to continue to happen... there is nothing the President, Loretta Lynch, or anybody else can do about it... all we can do is be vigilant and always be aware of our surroundings... "Brown, who declined to identify the suspect in his remarks to reporters, said Johnson was not affiliated with any other groups 'and stated that he did this alone.'" "The suspect said he was upset about Black Lives Matter," Brown said. "He said he was upset about the recent police shootings. He said he was upset at white people. He said he wanted to kill white people, especially white officers." As long as we have pols that want to disarm us, you are correct. There is no response if one doesn't also have a firearm with which to respond. The current political climate has fostered this sort of mayhem. Far too many politicians see advantage in chaos, and are more than willing to foster such chaos, regardless of the effects on the people. It starts at the very top. All officers... dead and surviving... were well armed... |
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Post by aboutwell on Jul 8, 2016 14:42:05 GMT -5
Obama started this war on police by his increased racial tensions in America. Was discussed all night on over night talk radio Don't know about that... average of about 164 during the Clinton years... 174 during the W Bush years... and 134 during the Obama years... 1991 149 1992 161 1993 158 1994 179 1995 184 1996 140 1997 173 1998 171 1999 145 2000 162 2001 241 2002 159 2003 150 2004 165 2005 163 2006 156 2007 192 2008 149 2009 125 2010 161 2011 171 2012 131 2013 109 2014 122 2015 123 |
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Post by redleg on Jul 9, 2016 9:09:17 GMT -5
As long as we have pols that want to disarm us, you are correct. There is no response if one doesn't also have a firearm with which to respond. The current political climate has fostered this sort of mayhem. Far too many politicians see advantage in chaos, and are more than willing to foster such chaos, regardless of the effects on the people. It starts at the very top. All officers... dead and surviving... were well armed... Which is why they were able to keep the numbers where they were. They were able to shoot back, and stop him. An ambush will kill and wound people, because they aren't expecting it. However, if the ambushed are unarmed, no one can stop the shooter until he's done shooting whomever he wants. When the people are armed, they can reduce the damage. |
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Post by Ranger John on Jul 9, 2016 10:06:02 GMT -5
All officers... dead and surviving... were well armed... Which is why they were able to keep the numbers where they were. They were able to shoot back, and stop him. An ambush will kill and wound people, because they aren't expecting it. However, if the ambushed are unarmed, no one can stop the shooter until he's done shooting whomever he wants. When the people are armed, they can reduce the damage. Weird that one should have to so thoroughly explain the most obvious things. |
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Post by freddfish on Jul 9, 2016 10:38:23 GMT -5
Which is why they were able to keep the numbers where they were. They were able to shoot back, and stop him. An ambush will kill and wound people, because they aren't expecting it. However, if the ambushed are unarmed, no one can stop the shooter until he's done shooting whomever he wants. When the people are armed, they can reduce the damage. Weird that one should have to so thoroughly explain the most obvious things. Not really....note that the first responses to an ambush/massacre of police officers from the lefties is gun control, and an appeal to equivalency, "Oh look KKK!!" No sane person that is near the sharp end of the spear on this, civilian or LEO, is going to surrender the only tool they have of saving their lives when It All Falls Apart....and the KKK? Uh, right. They're a bit like unicorns and beautiful nymphomaniacs. Everyone has heard of them, someone always seems to have heard of someone who has them around....but no one has actually SEEN them. Fools. |
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Post by redleg on Jul 9, 2016 10:45:00 GMT -5
Weird that one should have to so thoroughly explain the most obvious things. No sane person that is near the sharp end of the spear on this, civilian or LEO, is going to surrender the only tool they have of saving their lives when It All Falls Apart....and the KKK? Uh, right. They're a bit like unicorns and beautiful nymphomaniacs. Everyone has heard of them, someone always seems to have heard of someone who has them around....but no one has actually SEEN them. Fools. That's because it's not about safety, or non violence. It's about control. The Left want's complete control of everyone. If one is armed, he/she is not completely under their control. That's also why The Puppet and his Merry Marxists are nationalizing every police force they can get their criminal hands on. They want no one with any power out from under their thumb. They want all the power, and controlling the only forces with arms is one of their primary goals. Having armed civilians is an anathema to their agenda. |
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Post by Evil Yoda on Jul 9, 2016 10:47:50 GMT -5
Had this man chosen a gun free location the death toll would have been far higher.
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Post by aboutwell on Jul 9, 2016 13:16:17 GMT -5
All officers... dead and surviving... were well armed... Which is why they were able to keep the numbers where they were. They were able to shoot back, and stop him. An ambush will kill and wound people, because they aren't expecting it. However, if the ambushed are unarmed, no one can stop the shooter until he's done shooting whomever he wants. When the people are armed, they can reduce the damage. When guns aren't as readily accessible as they are... and reasonable restrictions and regulations are place on their purchase and use... we can reduce the damge as well... |
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