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Post by Ranger John on May 28, 2018 7:55:23 GMT -5
So, we're fresh off the media's "animal's" scandal where they were Outraged! that Trump called MS-13 members "animals" and now they're following up with a lie about making the NK summit on June 12 "impossible." The Federalist has the details here: thefederalist.com/2018/05/28/media-double-down-after-new-york-times-gets-busted-peddling-fake-news/The summary is as follows: The NYT claims a member of the Trump administration asserted that it would be "impossible" to hold the summit on June 12 because too much work still needed done. Trump asserted that the NYT was peddling "fake news" again. HuffPo then came along and said NYT was right, and they had an audio clip to prove it. Which they then made publicly available. The audio clip features a White House official essentially stating that a huge amount of work would need to be done in very little time to pull off the June 12 date. He does not say it would be "impossible." Way to go NYT and HuffPo. Making yourselves less credible every day. People who believe these sources' reporting on Trump are getting fed a constant diet of lies.
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Post by palealeman on May 28, 2018 11:40:22 GMT -5
Yea, RJ, but not as many lies as they get listening to Trump blather on and on.
And do you have a source other than an unthinking partisan article from a blatantly right-wing publication? Anything credible?
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Post by Ranger John on May 28, 2018 11:46:19 GMT -5
Yea, RJ, but not as many lies as they get listening to Trump blather on and on. And do you have a source other than an unthinking partisan article from a blatantly right-wing publication? Anything credible? Sorry, but the press is far less truthful than Trump is. Who would you like me to cite? MSNBC? WaPo? The Federalist is less right-wing than NYT is extreme left-wing, and provided supporting links in the article. NYT is a propaganda outlet. Nothing more.
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Post by palealeman on May 28, 2018 13:30:33 GMT -5
Said with a straight face as you continue to deny reality and support a serial sexual predictor who continually lies.
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Post by Ranger John on May 28, 2018 14:54:06 GMT -5
Said with a straight face as you continue to deny reality and support a serial sexual predictor who continually lies. I've presented you with evidence of the serial lying coming from the media. They can not be trusted to cover Trump accurately or failry. We have previously discussed Trump's lies, yet he has done more to keep his campaign promises than any president in my life time, and I DGAF he lied about how many people came to his innaguration. As for him being a sexual predictor, I don't see how predicting sex is really a problem. Guess it would depend on the circumstances.
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Post by palealeman on May 28, 2018 17:07:43 GMT -5
Oops. "Predictor" was a typo. Meant to say predator. On the other hand, Trump just may be a predictor. He's the one who's said that he's attracted to beautiful women and they to him, and he has no problem kissing women (and, from the tape, grabbing them in certain private areas). But that's OK with you, as we know.
You "evidence" is flimsy at best, non-existent at worst. What campaign promises has he kept? Still waiting for the wall that Mexico's going to pay for. Still waiting for him to explain how the"tax cuts" did not benefit him nor contribute to the deficit. Still waiting for him to do something to benefit the nation. Still waiting for him to make a statement that's not all about his self-interest.
And if you think that his numbers for his inauguration is the worst lie he's told, then you have serious issues. But then again, he has no interest in the truth. It's the way to make the country more authoritarian, which is his goal. And you know it, you just won't admit it. Poor you, RJ.
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Post by Ranger John on May 28, 2018 19:25:09 GMT -5
Oops. "Predictor" was a typo. Meant to say predator. On the other hand, Trump just may be a predictor. He's the one who's said that he's attracted to beautiful women and they to him, and he has no problem kissing women (and, from the tape, grabbing them in certain private areas). But that's OK with you, as we know. All of the accusations against him are a decade or more old, they're one-off incidents, some have been repudiated by the accusor, or by eye-witnesees, and given how overtly hostile the media has been towards Trump, it is hard to take them seriously. The media exists to promote the obviously slanderous Russia-collusion story. That's not just evidence, it's hard proof that almost everything the media prints about Trump is garbage. The incident discussed in the OP and the MS-13 "animals" incident are just the most recent examples of the media bias. He moved the US Embassy to Jerusalem, got the Keystone XL pipeline approved, lowered taxes, got the economy booming, and appointed conservative justices. He bombed the hell out of ISIS (nearly snuffing it out). He has ended the Iran nuclear agreement, and pulled the US out of the Paris Climate Accord. He has been pursuing the wall, and his policies have reduced illegal immigration, and crippled (possibly fatally) Obamacare. Yes, work still needs to be done on those last two items, but he hasn't walked away from those promises. You haven't told me a more serious lie.
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Post by redleg on May 28, 2018 21:45:30 GMT -5
Oops. "Predictor" was a typo. Meant to say predator. On the other hand, Trump just may be a predictor. He's the one who's said that he's attracted to beautiful women and they to him, and he has no problem kissing women (and, from the tape, grabbing them in certain private areas). But that's OK with you, as we know. You "evidence" is flimsy at best, non-existent at worst. What campaign promises has he kept? Still waiting for the wall that Mexico's going to pay for. Still waiting for him to explain how the"tax cuts" did not benefit him nor contribute to the deficit. Still waiting for him to do something to benefit the nation. Still waiting for him to make a statement that's not all about his self-interest. And if you think that his numbers for his inauguration is the worst lie he's told, then you have serious issues. But then again, he has no interest in the truth. It's the way to make the country more authoritarian, which is his goal. And you know it, you just won't admit it. Poor you, RJ. Once again, you can't seem to even be able to read what he actually said on the tape. He said "women would let you". Of course, since all you get your "news" from is the fake news, you wouldn't know that. Of course, none of them can read either. I notice that you are simply repeating garbage that you are told to repeat, since he's far less "authoritarian" than The Puppet ever was. Of course, you wouldn't know that, since you get all your vocabulary from the illiterates at cNN and NYT.
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Post by Ranger John on May 29, 2018 5:11:59 GMT -5
Ah... vocabulary... causing Democrats to call spies "confidential informants" so the rest of us can laugh at them.
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Post by palealeman on May 29, 2018 10:55:19 GMT -5
You're listening to too much Fox and reading too much Breitbart and Federalist again, RJ. Fake news at it's best (actually, at its worst), but probably the kind of pap that you unthinking, uncritical partisans need.
Trump lies? How about the one in the story you link to above, that a staffer who briefed reporters and was taped does not exist? How about his recent statement that he was giving the military its first pay raise in 10 years (fact: last year there was no raise was 1983; military has had a pay raise every year since)? How about his statements that the tax bill and tax relief won't increase the deficit, despite evidence before and after that's it's adding significantly (and, since a large chunk of that debt is owned by and will be owned by Chine, they get more influence over us and our monetary policies; guess that's why Trump worked so hard on behalf of ZTE)? Or his recent statement that "catch and release" is a Democratic policy (in fact, it was implement under Bush 2 due to a Supreme Court decision in 2001)?
There's more, but I think you get the point (actually, you probably won't, which is sad). Trump says what he thinks will make him look best, regardless of how truthful his statement may be. In many ways, I hope the North Korea summit doesn't happen -- who knows what Trump may say or what kind of deal he may strike.
And, if you check, RJ, the economy was doing pretty well before Trump took office -- approximately 7 consecutive years of growth following the Bush recession.
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Post by redleg on May 29, 2018 11:57:11 GMT -5
You're listening to too much Fox and reading too much Breitbart and Federalist again, RJ. Fake news at it's best (actually, at its worst), but probably the kind of pap that you unthinking, uncritical partisans need. Trump lies? How about the one in the story you link to above, that a staffer who briefed reporters and was taped does not exist? How about his recent statement that he was giving the military its first pay raise in 10 years (fact: last year there was no raise was 1983; military has had a pay raise every year since)? How about his statements that the tax bill and tax relief won't increase the deficit, despite evidence before and after that's it's adding significantly (and, since a large chunk of that debt is owned by and will be owned by Chine, they get more influence over us and our monetary policies; guess that's why Trump worked so hard on behalf of ZTE)? Or his recent statement that "catch and release" is a Democratic policy (in fact, it was implement under Bush 2 due to a Supreme Court decision in 2001)? There's more, but I think you get the point (actually, you probably won't, which is sad). Trump says what he thinks will make him look best, regardless of how truthful his statement may be. In many ways, I hope the North Korea summit doesn't happen -- who knows what Trump may say or what kind of deal he may strike. And, if you check, RJ, the economy was doing pretty well before Trump took office -- approximately 7 consecutive years of growth following the Bush recession. 1. Again, you are unable to understand English. Trump said that the "source" saying it's "impossible" doesn't exist. The transcripts of what was said show that no one said it would be "impossible", just difficult. You obviously don't understand the difference. 2. The raises the military got under The Puppet were not even keeping up with inflation. Therefore, he is correct in that this is the first pay raise that actually raises their pay relative to cost. 3. The deficits of which you whine are caused by the Party of the KKK insisting on continually increasing the spending for their voting base, the welfare people, the criminals, and the illegals. Not because of the tax cuts. Just more propaganda from the fake news. 4. Just because it was created by a SCOTUS decision under Bush doesn't mean it wasn't a Party of the KKK policy. It was. Whatever deal he strikes, it will be far better for us than the treasonous "deal" The Puppet forced on us with Iran.
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Post by aboutwell on May 29, 2018 12:34:33 GMT -5
JOKE OF THE DAY
"Sorry, but the press is far less truthful than Trump is."
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Post by Ranger John on May 29, 2018 12:51:44 GMT -5
You're listening to too much Fox and reading too much Breitbart and Federalist again, RJ. Fake news at it's best (actually, at its worst), but probably the kind of pap that you unthinking, uncritical partisans need. Trump lies? How about the one in the story you link to above, that a staffer who briefed reporters and was taped does not exist? This is your problem. A staffer that said a June 12 summit would be impossible DOES NOT EXIST. The staffer said it would be incredibly difficult to pull off. This is why it is impossible to take the media or you seriously.
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Post by redleg on May 29, 2018 13:23:30 GMT -5
JOKE OF THE DAY "Sorry, but the press is far less truthful than Trump is." Really? They have lied, misrepresented, undermined, and omitted, anything to damage Trump. Last week they were gleeful that Un might be pulling out of the summit, then they were hysterical when Trump simply canceled the summit, now they are saying he can't have the summit, it's too soon. They lied when they said a "source" told them the summit was impossible so soon, they lied when they said they had a source that said so. They have been, and are still lying about The Puppet and his Stazi putting spies in the Trump campaign, and have been lying about the entire Russian "investigation" since it's inception. Trump has told untruths. Lies. However, nearly every "lie" he's been accused of by the LR media has turned out to be the truth, like him being spied on and wiretapped by The Puppet and The Felon, the fact that The Felon is in fact a felon, something the hysterical and the unintelligent still don't believe despite all the evidence, and the fact that it looks like Un will come to the summit. The lies, omissions, and half truths the LR media are telling are being told to undermine the country, and continue with their Socialist (Communist) agenda.
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Post by palealeman on May 29, 2018 15:34:02 GMT -5
My problem, RJ? Your article includes the failing President's tweet, in which he says that the Times "quotes a 'senior White official,' who doesn't exist, . . ." He doesn't exist? But he's caught on tape? Your failing President lies again.
And you make no comment about the other lies. As I've said several times, you're fine with a sexual predator and serial liar as President. I really feel sorry for you. But that's what unthinking and uncritical partisanship does. A mind is truly a terrible thing to waste. Sorry you're wasting yours.
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Post by redleg on May 29, 2018 16:58:44 GMT -5
My problem, RJ? Your article includes the failing President's tweet, in which he says that the Times "quotes a 'senior White official,' who doesn't exist, . . ." He doesn't exist? But he's caught on tape? Your failing President lies again. And you make no comment about the other lies. As I've said several times, you're fine with a sexual predator and serial liar as President. I really feel sorry for you. But that's what unthinking and uncritical partisanship does. A mind is truly a terrible thing to waste. Sorry you're wasting yours. So, again, you can't read, or hear. He never said it. The "quote" was a lie. Therefore, there was no "senior official" that said it.
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Post by palealeman on May 29, 2018 19:34:39 GMT -5
Come on, commie. Reading is fundamental. We keep saying that to you, but you never bother. I know a reading specialist who might be able to get you to a 5th grade level, though in your case I think that's a stretch.
I suggest you read the article RJ linked to above. If you bother to do so, and if you pay a little attention to what you read, you will see that a White House official -- who is named in the article -- spoke to several members of the press. Apparently the Times gave an inaccurate report of what was said (it would be hard to get ready for a summit on June 12, not impossible as the Times said, though the Times did not quote that official).
The briefing or interview was recorded. The recording is also quoted in the article. The next day, the failing president said that there was no White House official at all, an obvious lie. If there was an official who gave a statement or briefing, why would the failing president lie about it?
The article is clear. What is even clearer is that you really need to work on your reading and comprehension.
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Post by redleg on May 29, 2018 21:27:24 GMT -5
Come on, commie. Reading is fundamental. We keep saying that to you, but you never bother. I know a reading specialist who might be able to get you to a 5th grade level, though in your case I think that's a stretch. I suggest you read the article RJ linked to above. If you bother to do so, and if you pay a little attention to what you read, you will see that a White House official -- who is named in the article -- spoke to several members of the press. Apparently the Times gave an inaccurate report of what was said (it would be hard to get ready for a summit on June 12, not impossible as the Times said, though the Times did not quote that official). The briefing or interview was recorded. The recording is also quoted in the article. The next day, the failing president said that there was no White House official at all, an obvious lie. If there was an official who gave a statement or briefing, why would the failing president lie about it? The article is clear. What is even clearer is that you really need to work on your reading and comprehension. I"m not the one that thinks it was a real "WH source" that said it was impossible. Try reading what the real spokesman said, not the fictitious "source" that the LR media is lying about. "Inaccurate report" is simply a euphemism for lying. They had no "source", they simply lied about what was said at the briefing. The recording also gives the lie to the NYT article, since it also shows the NYT was lying. Trump said there was no official that said it was impossible. He was correct. Your owners are lying, again.
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Post by Ranger John on May 29, 2018 23:11:04 GMT -5
My problem, RJ? Your article includes the failing President's tweet, in which he says that the Times "quotes a 'senior White official,' who doesn't exist, . . ." He doesn't exist? But he's caught on tape? Your failing President lies again. He was caught on tape saying something different from what he was quoted as saying. Only an imbicle would take Trump's tweet as suggesting there are no White House officials talking to the media. However, they probably just should stop talking to the media entirely, as all the media does is put words in the mouuths of everyone in this Administration with the express intention of making Trump look bad. Which is why this: has no meaning. All these people accusing Trump of lying spend their days literally fabricating the "lies." No one in the legacy media can be trusted to cover Trump accurately, let alone fairly.
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Post by palealeman on May 30, 2018 12:14:25 GMT -5
Didn't realize your paranoia had progressed so far, RJ. You really are becoming delusional. However, you stick with your sexual predator compulsive liar failing president, and keep reading the unthinking, uncritical, mindless partisan fake news drivel spewed by Fox, Breitbart, and the Federalist. I'll stick to real news for a while an leave you and your commie buddie alone for a bit.
What keeps me going is the realization that the drivel you "believe" is going out of date and will be largely forgotten in 15 or 20 years. Thoughts and ideas continue an inexorable march toward the left. Progressive ideas always win, regressive ideas are quickly forgotten.
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Post by Ranger John on May 30, 2018 13:44:20 GMT -5
Didn't realize your paranoia had progressed so far, RJ. You really are becoming delusional. However, you stick with your sexual predator compulsive liar failing president, and keep reading the unthinking, uncritical, mindless partisan fake news drivel spewed by Fox, Breitbart, and the Federalist. I'll stick to real news for a while an leave you and your commie buddie alone for a bit. What keeps me going is the realization that the drivel you "believe" is going out of date and wilyl be largely forgotten in 15 or 20 years. Thoughts and ideas continue an inexorable march toward the left. Progressive ideas always win, regressive ideas are quickly forgotten. Delusional is believing whatever the agenda-driven a-holes at the NYT tell you to believe. How many times do they need to be caught in lies before you stop taking them seriously?
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Post by palealeman on May 30, 2018 13:53:33 GMT -5
How many times does the failing president have to be caught in lies before you stop believing him?
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Post by Ranger John on May 30, 2018 14:06:10 GMT -5
How many times does the failing president have to be caught in lies before you stop believing him? Let me know when he lies about something important. Again, IDGAF about how many people came to his innaguration. There's a reason only 32% of the country finds the media trustworthy. You might want to figure out why that is. wjla.com/news/nation-world/main-stream-media-continue-to-lose-the-publics-trust
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Post by redleg on May 30, 2018 14:50:53 GMT -5
Didn't realize your paranoia had progressed so far, RJ. You really are becoming delusional. However, you stick with your sexual predator compulsive liar failing president, and keep reading the unthinking, uncritical, mindless partisan fake news drivel spewed by Fox, Breitbart, and the Federalist. I'll stick to real news for a while an leave you and your commie buddie alone for a bit. What keeps me going is the realization that the drivel you "believe" is going out of date and will be largely forgotten in 15 or 20 years. Thoughts and ideas continue an inexorable march toward the left. Progressive ideas always win, regressive ideas are quickly forgotten. Ah, you mean like using pics from The Puppet's "immigration policy" and blaming Trump for them? Or claiming that only 1000 showed up to one of his rallies, when there were 5500? Or claiming that the FBI put a spy in his campaign "for his own good", after mocking him for even mentioning the possibility? How about mocking him for claiming he was wiretapped, when he was being wiretapped? How many lies can your masters tell you before you realize they are lying to you? Oh, I guess you will accept any lies, as long as they are coming from your masters. Otherwise, you won't have anything to think about.
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Post by redleg on May 30, 2018 14:51:40 GMT -5
How many times does the failing president have to be caught in lies before you stop believing him? How many has he been "caught" in? Real lies, not the propaganda being pushed by the LR media?
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