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Post by douger on Nov 9, 2013 22:15:47 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Nov 9, 2013 22:32:00 GMT -5
I've seen the movie on TCM a time or two. Charles Boyer was an excellent actor. Barry Obama isn't even a good liar, much less a good actor. Come to think of it, Obama isn't good at squat. (waits for the exorcised one to post)
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Post by Moses on Nov 9, 2013 23:07:08 GMT -5
Wait? Are you talking about the guy elected twice to president? Awesome! Go get you some! Everyone hates him!!!!
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Post by rocketwolf on Nov 10, 2013 7:00:19 GMT -5
He did and its the usual gibberish I guess
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Post by aponderer on Nov 10, 2013 7:40:21 GMT -5
Wait? Are you talking about the guy elected twice to president? Awesome! Go get you some! Everyone hates him!!!! So, IF the election were being held this Tuesday, do you think he'd still win? Or, put another way, do you think some of Dr. Ben Carson's uneducated public might have wised up in the last five years?
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Post by Deleted on Nov 10, 2013 9:30:28 GMT -5
Wait? Are you talking about the guy elected twice to president? Awesome! Go get you some! Everyone hates him!!!! So much hate and still a couple of years to go. I wonder if some of these guys (and gals) will make it that long, the way that the hate keeps eating them.
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Post by Evil Yoda on Nov 10, 2013 9:50:33 GMT -5
Wait? Are you talking about the guy elected twice to president? Awesome! Go get you some! Everyone hates him!!!! We both know he was elected the first time because the public perceived the GOP as worse. Not because they thought Obama knew what he was doing. In 2008, how could he? He was a callow youth, relatively speaking. By 2012, he'd proved it, but - again - the public thought Romney a heartless opportunist. The only people who don't seem to understand how they're disliked is the GOP itself.
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Post by Ranger John on Nov 10, 2013 10:07:29 GMT -5
Wait? Are you talking about the guy elected twice to president? Awesome! Go get you some! Everyone hates him!!!! We both know he was elected because the public perceived the GOP as worse. Not because they thought Obama knew what he was doing. In 2008, how could he? He was a callow youth, relatively speaking. By 2012, he'd proved it. The only people who don't seem to understand how much people don't like them is the GOP itself. And the reason the public perceived the GOP as worse is because the US media is a propaganda outlet for the Democratic party. To some extent 2008 was inevitable. "Hope and Change" is an easy slogan to win on after 8 years of having a mediocrity like Bush in the White House. Not only had Obama proved he didn't know what he was doing by 2012, but the media proved that it was hopelessly partisan and irretrievably biased. From Candy Crowley's cover-up of Obama's failure at the debate, to the weeks of stories about the kid who's hair Mitt Romney cut in High School and Mrs. Romney's horse, to the utter failure of the media to dig into Obama's background at all. THIS is why people don't like the GOP. If the press reported on the Democrats the way they do Republicans, the Democrats wouldn't exist as a party anymore.
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Post by drjohnnyfever on Nov 10, 2013 10:11:28 GMT -5
Wait? Are you talking about the guy elected twice to president? Awesome! Go get you some! Everyone hates him!!!! So much hate and still a couple of years to go. I wonder if some of these guys (and gals) will make it that long, the way that the hate keeps eating them. Your concern is touching.
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Post by Evil Yoda on Nov 10, 2013 10:27:15 GMT -5
And the reason the public perceived the GOP as worse is because the US media is a propaganda outlet for the Democratic party. The blame others for your troubles approach exemplified by this assertion is dangerous. It discourages the introspection necessary for the GOP to actually figure out why it might be disliked by glibly dismissing it as an artifact of journalistic bias. The truth is there are certain aspects of GOP policy that simply aren't popular. By dismissing criticism as biased, the GOP prevents itself from ever realizing this. The 2008 transfer of power was inevitable because George W. Bush was, until the current officeholder, the worst president in my lifetime, and that includes Nixon and Carter. Just a really, really bad leader. to the weeks of stories about the kid who's hair Mitt Romney cut in High School And the dog, don't forget the dog. The thing is, those stories ARE relevant... because they give us insight into Romney's character. They suggested he was a bully and a man who lacked basic empathy - and he confirmed that by his casual dismissal of the 47% who he believed would never vote for him.
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Post by Moses on Nov 10, 2013 10:37:21 GMT -5
Wait? Are you talking about the guy elected twice to president? Awesome! Go get you some! Everyone hates him!!!! So, IF the election were being held this Tuesday, do you think he'd still win? Or, put another way, do you think some of Dr. Ben Carson's uneducated public might have wised up in the last five years? Who is opposing him? At least you got Obama on the run!!!! Good job repubs!
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Post by Moses on Nov 10, 2013 10:38:48 GMT -5
Wait? Are you talking about the guy elected twice to president? Awesome! Go get you some! Everyone hates him!!!! We both know he was elected the first time because the public perceived the GOP as worse. Not because they thought Obama knew what he was doing. In 2008, how could he? He was a callow youth, relatively speaking. By 2012, he'd proved it, but - again - the public thought Romney a heartless opportunist. The only people who don't seem to understand how they're disliked is the GOP itself. Pretty much.
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Post by drjohnnyfever on Nov 10, 2013 10:49:54 GMT -5
And the reason the public perceived the GOP as worse is because the US media is a propaganda outlet for the Democratic party. The blame others for your troubles approach exemplified by this assertion is dangerous. It discourages the introspection necessary for the GOP to actually figure out why it might be disliked by glibly dismissing it as an artifact of journalistic bias. The truth is there are certain aspects of GOP policy that simply aren't popular. By dismissing criticism as biased, the GOP prevents itself from ever realizing this. The 2008 transfer of power was inevitable because George W. Bush was, until the current officeholder, the worst president in my lifetime, and that includes Nixon and Carter. Just a really, really bad leader. to the weeks of stories about the kid who's hair Mitt Romney cut in High School And the dog, don't forget the dog. The thing is, those stories ARE relevant... because they give us insight into Romney's character. They suggested he was a bully and a man who lacked basic empathy - and he confirmed that by his casual dismissal of the 47% who he believed would never vote for him. Some repub positions are not popular-that doesn't make those positions wrong. If we're to survive as a nation we will need to make hard choices-some of which will be painful and unpopular....but necessary.
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Post by Ranger John on Nov 10, 2013 10:53:08 GMT -5
And the reason the public perceived the GOP as worse is because the US media is a propaganda outlet for the Democratic party. The blame others for your troubles approach exemplified by this assertion is dangerous. It discourages the introspection necessary for the GOP to actually figure out why it might be disliked by glibly dismissing it as an artifact of journalistic bias. The truth is there are certain aspects of GOP policy that simply aren't popular. By dismissing criticism as biased, the GOP prevents itself from ever realizing this. The 2008 transfer of power was inevitable because George W. Bush was, until the current officeholder, the worst president in my lifetime, and that includes Nixon and Carter. Just a really, really bad leader. I wish you had a little bit of objectivity on this EY. I will not suggest Bush was a great president, but he was no where near as corrupt as Nixon, and far more competent than Carter. And the dog, don't forget the dog. The thing is, those stories ARE relevant... because they give us insight into Romney's character. They suggested he was a bully and a man who lacked basic empathy - and he confirmed that by his casual dismissal of the 47% who he believed would never vote for him. Sadly, you missed my point entirely - it's not about the way the media vetted Romney. It's about the way they utterly failed to vet Obama. Was Obama's time in High School in the "Choom Gang" relevant? How about his association with leftover Weathermen radicals? Or Jeremiah Wright? Let alone an in-depth investigation to remind everyone what the Weathermen and Black Liberation Theology are all about. NONE of those stories got run over and over again in the "mainstream" media.
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Post by Evil Yoda on Nov 10, 2013 11:11:01 GMT -5
Some repub positions are not popular-that doesn't make those positions wrong. If we're to survive as a nation we will need to make hard choices-some of which will be painful and unpopular....but necessary. You're probably right. However, selling people hard positions is very difficult to do. What the Democrats did with Obamacare was sell the idea that someone ELSE would suffer. That this turned out to be a lie will, hopefully, bite them in the ass. We'll see. In general you can't sell hard positions in countries like this one until things get much, much worse than they are now. And then what happens, typically, is some kind of dictator arises.
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Post by Moses on Nov 10, 2013 11:12:51 GMT -5
Some repub positions are not popular-that doesn't make those positions wrong. If we're to survive as a nation we will need to make hard choices-some of which will be painful and unpopular....but necessary. You're probably right. However, selling people hard positions is very difficult to do. What the Democrats did with Obamacare was sell the idea that someone ELSE would suffer. That this turned out to be a lie will, hopefully, bite them in the ass. We'll see. In general you can't sell hard positions in countries like this one until things get much, much worse than they are now. And then what happens, typically, is some kind of dictator arises. Well Obama is a softy no worries there. He just isn't dictator material.
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Post by freddfish on Nov 10, 2013 11:55:07 GMT -5
Some repub positions are not popular-that doesn't make those positions wrong. If we're to survive as a nation we will need to make hard choices-some of which will be painful and unpopular....but necessary. You're probably right. However, selling people hard positions is very difficult to do. What the Democrats did with Obamacare was sell the idea that someone ELSE would suffer. That this turned out to be a lie will, hopefully, bite them in the ass. We'll see. In general you can't sell hard positions in countries like this one until things get much, much worse than they are now. And then what happens, typically, is some kind of dictator arises. From his own wife......... EY, are you still waiting for that dictator? Sounds like we have a wannabee right here right now..... I'm not sure when it became Barack Obama's purview to dictate how much cynicism I have, whether or not I stay in my "comfort zone", that I push myself as much or as hard as he dictates, that I "engage", or that I go back to living my life as usual... Someone needs to take these silly Chicago c*&^k s&^%$kers on their knee and explain to them how a free nation like the United States is supposed to work. I would suggest not using too many big words though, cuz lets face it...they just ain't the sharpest tools in the shed.
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Post by drjohnnyfever on Nov 10, 2013 12:03:17 GMT -5
"Barack will never allow you to go back to your lives as usual, uninvolved, uninformed."
Of course not-that's reserved for barry "I didn't know" obama.
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Post by Moses on Nov 10, 2013 12:06:20 GMT -5
Ok now "Barry" is dictator material! Lol
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Post by Deleted on Nov 10, 2013 12:10:56 GMT -5
We both know he was elected because the public perceived the GOP as worse. Not because they thought Obama knew what he was doing. In 2008, how could he? He was a callow youth, relatively speaking. By 2012, he'd proved it. The only people who don't seem to understand how much people don't like them is the GOP itself. And the reason the public perceived the GOP as worse is because the US media is a propaganda outlet for the Democratic party. To some extent 2008 was inevitable. "Hope and Change" is an easy slogan to win on after 8 years of having a mediocrity like Bush in the White House. Not only had Obama proved he didn't know what he was doing by 2012, but the media proved that it was hopelessly partisan and irretrievably biased. From Candy Crowley's cover-up of Obama's failure at the debate, to the weeks of stories about the kid who's hair Mitt Romney cut in High School and Mrs. Romney's horse, to the utter failure of the media to dig into Obama's background at all. THIS is why people don't like the GOP. If the press reported on the Democrats the way they do Republicans, the Democrats wouldn't exist as a party anymore. Repubs lacked charismatic candidates. And Obama turned out the black vote in droves- and the inner-city poor usually don't vote much, but for the first black president, of course they would. It was an election between a compromise candidate without much charisma inside or outside party vs one that had a highly motivated base. And in modern America, 95% of the voting populace are going to vote Dem or Repub no matter who is running- its all about motivating that 5% one way or another.
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Post by Ranger John on Nov 10, 2013 12:30:01 GMT -5
Some repub positions are not popular-that doesn't make those positions wrong. If we're to survive as a nation we will need to make hard choices-some of which will be painful and unpopular....but necessary. You're probably right. However, selling people hard positions is very difficult to do. What the Democrats did with Obamacare was sell the idea that someone ELSE would suffer. That this turned out to be a lie will, hopefully, bite them in the ass. We'll see. In general you can't sell hard positions in countries like this one until things get much, much worse than they are now. And then what happens, typically, is some kind of dictator arises. Well, it didn't so much 'turn out to be a lie' as it was an obvious lie right from the start. This is why, when describing Obamacare, the Fair & Balanced media keep saying "I told you so" and the legacy media keep putting out news broadcasts brought to you by the word "unexpectedly."
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Post by freddfish on Nov 10, 2013 18:50:10 GMT -5
You're probably right. However, selling people hard positions is very difficult to do. What the Democrats did with Obamacare was sell the idea that someone ELSE would suffer. That this turned out to be a lie will, hopefully, bite them in the ass. We'll see. In general you can't sell hard positions in countries like this one until things get much, much worse than they are now. And then what happens, typically, is some kind of dictator arises. Well, it didn't so much 'turn out to be a lie' as it was an obvious lie right from the start. This is why, when describing Obamacare, the Fair & Balanced media keep saying "I told you so" and the legacy media keep putting out news broadcasts brought to you by the word "unexpectedly." Yeah.....I dropped an apple today, and it "unexpectedly" fell to the floor......
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Post by redleg on Nov 10, 2013 22:16:58 GMT -5
Wait? Are you talking about the guy elected twice to president? Awesome! Go get you some! Everyone hates him!!!! But the second time, he did it with the illegal vote, and the union multiple votes. If he had to have an honest election, he would have lost to Palin by herself.
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Post by redleg on Nov 10, 2013 22:18:47 GMT -5
Wait? Are you talking about the guy elected twice to president? Awesome! Go get you some! Everyone hates him!!!! So much hate and still a couple of years to go. I wonder if some of these guys (and gals) will make it that long, the way that the hate keeps eating them. Hate him? No. Hate his policies? Absolutely. And the more I find out about him, the closer I come to loathing for the man himself. He's a criminal, a dictator, and an incompetent boob.
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Post by redleg on Nov 10, 2013 22:20:48 GMT -5
Wait? Are you talking about the guy elected twice to president? Awesome! Go get you some! Everyone hates him!!!! We both know he was elected the first time because the public perceived the GOP as worse. Not because they thought Obama knew what he was doing. In 2008, how could he? He was a callow youth, relatively speaking. By 2012, he'd proved it, but - again - the public thought Romney a heartless opportunist. The only people who don't seem to understand how they're disliked is the GOP itself. As I've said before, he was elected only because he was black. There is no other explanation for electing an unknown Chicago street thug,who had never held a job, no one knew, and had never accomplished anything at all.
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