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Post by shutout on Sept 21, 2014 21:46:28 GMT -5
Nice to see a win but at times their football IQ is lacking.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 21, 2014 22:39:08 GMT -5
The Browns played Browns football at the end of the game, or the Ravens would have lost that game. That secondary is baaaaaad. I think part of the problem for the secondary is the overall lack of a pass rush. No one can cover anyone else forever. But I agree that the secondary is in need of work. The tacklin, in particular, is atrocious. Any opposing runner who gets into the secondary can breathe easier since his chances of getting rapped are slim. I'm wondering if Matt Elam is ever going to make the leap and justify that first round selection. He simply can't cover because he's too slow.
Still, the Browns look to no longer be stiffs, so this is a good road win even if it wasn't pretty.
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Post by Ravenchamp on Sept 22, 2014 6:17:50 GMT -5
Another report, unconfirmed, says Pitta dislocated his hip and there is another fracture. If this is true his career is over.  Agreed, this could be it for Pitta, what a shame. |
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Post by davinci on Sept 22, 2014 6:29:00 GMT -5
Thank god for Billy Cundiff!  |
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Post by highmc2 on Sept 22, 2014 7:55:52 GMT -5
How could Harbaugh not go for the FG on 4th and 1 in that situation. It essential forced the team to have 2 drives to win the game instead of one. This is about the 5th time he has foregone an easy 3 and come up empty. It damn near cost them the SB win.
Elam looks lost in pass coverage, and don't start pointing fingers about blown assignments until you touch the receiver down. The Browns converted at least 3 third and 15+ plays. This team needs a healthy Webb in the secondary because Chykie is strictly a Dime back.
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Post by alienrace on Sept 22, 2014 8:05:03 GMT -5
Another report, unconfirmed, says Pitta dislocated his hip and there is another fracture. If this is true his career is over. He's done, career over. Very sad, but he has to think of life after football. |
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Post by Ravenchamp on Sept 22, 2014 8:29:28 GMT -5
Thank god for Billy Cundiff! Yeah thank God he's NOT HERE LOL Tucker is a young Stover, Mr Automatic |
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Post by alienrace on Sept 22, 2014 11:53:40 GMT -5
The Ravens secondary is beyond suspect at the moment. Webb looked slow, he's certainly not 100%. They took him out pretty quick. Elam has raw talent, needs to get his head in the game at times. Stewart is not the answer, and honestly at this point I think they should consider starting Brooks, how much worse could he be? But, as bad as our defense looked consider the following facts: a) They held the Browns to their lowest point total of the season. b) They'd held each team they've played to their lowest point totals of the season. Losing Pitta was a blow, but they've got plenty of pass receiving talent to replace him. Probably gonna see more Marlon Brown and Kyle Juczchyk from here on out, and Gilmore too. On positive notes, other that the first half of the Cincy game, the offense has been able to move the ball. They still seem to struggle in the Red Zone, but that should improve as the season wears on and Kubiak gets a better feel for the talent he is working with. They need to feed the ball to Daniels and Brown down there when passing, and Taliaferro. Enough of these QB sneaks inside the five yard line. Speaking of Taliaferro, he looks like a keeper  Overall, after 3 games I think you can probably say that Cincy has established themselves as the team to beat in the AFC. We will get a better feel when the visit New England, but right now they have to be considered the best AFC team. After that, there's a second tier that would include Denver, New England, Baltimore, San Diego that look like the more likely playoff teams. The third tier IMO would be Pittsburgh, Indy, Buffalo(maybe), and Cleveland. The rest are scrapheap teams that have no chance for the playoffs(New York, Miami, KC, Oakland, Tennessee, Jacksonville, Houston). |
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Post by Evil Yoda on Sept 22, 2014 13:02:37 GMT -5
They've got some young guys who made some lunkhead plays (Elam, Mosely) and I suspect they'll train that out of them quickly.
I'm less concerned about the loss of Pitta this year than last year. The league's rules on pass coverage are such that even mediocre receivers and QBs can shine, as in Brian Hoyer and Kirk Cousins. Additionally, Pitta's career is over (if he is smart), so they need to think about who's next.
Suggs, Canty, Dumervil barely visible in Cleveland's backfield; we don't have a decent pass rush this year like we didn't last year. Suggs and Dumervil's best years appear to be in the rear view mirror. Pees' defense has never impressed me. If you can't at least threaten a pass rush, your secondary will be cut to ribbons. Last week's Upshaw hit on Roethlisberger looked legal to me; I don't know why Hochuli flagged it, but we need more of that.
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Post by alienrace on Sept 22, 2014 14:35:16 GMT -5
Just looking at the schedules of Baltimore, Cincy and Pittsburgh...
I think it'll shake out as follows:
Cincy 11-5
Ravens 10-6
Steelers 8-8
Not sure about the Browns, they are clearly improved, they might win 6, 7, even 8 games. What hurts the Ravens right now is that home loss to Cincy. Had they won that, or, if they make up for it by defeating the Bengals on the road, you can swap those team's records.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 22, 2014 23:56:39 GMT -5
Pitta is likely done, but I'd expect the Ravens to put him on IR for this season and for 2015. If he truly can't come back, they'll make him a post-June 1 release in order to spread out the cap hit. Ray Rice is already going to count $9.5 million against the cap next season, and the Ravens can't afford almost $20 million in dead cap money.
I wasn't crazy about the contract the Ravens gave to Pitta, but I thought he could have a strong year if he could stay healthy. Losing him is obviously a huge blow, but it might not be an end-all since the tight end screen is a staple in Gary Kubiak's offense. It won't simply go away with Pitta's absence. The thing is, the tight end needs to be a pass-catching threat in order for it to work, and Pitta was one of the most reliable receivers on the Ravens, the guy who could bail out Flacco with a clutch third-down catch. That's going to be the hardest element for the Ravens to try and replace. |
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