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Post by bobloblaw on Oct 26, 2017 14:00:34 GMT -5
Who paid the Hookers?
Trump
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Post by Ranger John on Oct 26, 2017 14:22:12 GMT -5
Did Steele pay his sources? Maybe, maybe not. But, even if he did, does this mean that his sources weren't accurate? You make it sound like Steele bought nothing but false information, information that he too knew was false. I seriously doubt that that was the case. There is information in the dossier that has been proven false. Obviously some of his sources were wrong. Beyond that, it is not on the accused to prove the charges against him are false. It's on the accusor to prove that they are true. What we have now is some accusations have been proven false, and others that remain unverified. Many of the accusations probably will never be proven or disproved. Until something untword is proven though, the dossier has to remain discredited. And the longer we go without proof of collusion or some other disqualifying activity, the less likely it will be that any is discovered. Paying for information is a dodgy proposition to begin with. It leads to the question of whether the source is just providing you with what you want to hear to make some quick cash. However, it is equally unlikely that people would just give you something of value, including information, for nothing. Especially in a country like Russia. Unless of course, seeing Trump crash and burn is worth it to the source. Which, kinda undermines the whole, Putin was supporting Trump narrative. What we do know, from the Washington Post, is that Clinton and the DNC passed money through some lawyers, to Fusion GPS, which paid Christopher Steele for information on Trump, which Steele got from the Russians. No sane person believes Steele didn't pay anything to any of his sources. Because that is simply not the way the world works, especially not in Russia. So, what DO we have? We have the DEMOCRATS, paying the Russians, through a couple of intermediaries to provide anti-Trump information in order to influence the election. In short, there is more substance to the charge that HILLARY colluded with the Russians than there is that Trump did.
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Post by Ranger John on Oct 26, 2017 14:23:14 GMT -5
Who paid the Hookers? Trump There is more evidence that Hillary paid hookers than Trump.
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Post by redleg on Oct 27, 2017 9:47:23 GMT -5
It’s sad, and also utterly predictable, that the left is ignoring the Fusion GPS story. Clearly, they aren’t the least bit concerned that the Hillary campaign paid the Russians for anti-Trump stories. After all, that is what the Steele Dossier is. An example of Russians colluding with the Clinton campaign. And just what's the story, RJ? That a political campaign tried to get some dirt on an opponent? Happens all the time. However, I haven't seen any evidence that the Clinton campaign paid the Russians for info. What I've seen is that the campaign used an attorney to contract with Fusion -- after a Republican who had originally contracted with them stopped -- and Fusion hired Steele to collect information. But collusion? Probably no more than Don Jr. meeting with Russians to get dirt on Hillary. Do you have any evidence from a credible source that the Clinton colluded with the Russians? Really? The entire "dossier" that Steele sold to the DNC was made up, out of whole cloth, by Putin's secret police and political operatives. They were neck deep with the Russians, and the entire "Trump colluded with the Russians" lie was made up specifically to deflect from the fact that it was the Party of the KKK that was colluding, and buying from, the Russians. Comey, the FBI, MI6, and Mueller were all too happy to go after Trump with a document that they knew was faked, because it was used to get FISA warrants to spy on anyone they wanted to spy on.
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Post by redleg on Oct 27, 2017 9:51:19 GMT -5
No, RJ, connections are not established. I have seen no evidence of anyone paying the Russians for anything. Do you have evidence to the contrary? That's because you refuse to admit reality. The Felon and her campaign paid the Russians, since Fusion GPS is a Russian front group, with Podesta leading the collusion, and they knew the "dossier" was fake. They just wanted to get anything at all out in public to damage Trump, since they knew they were in danger of losing the election. They not only didn't care that it was faked, they were happy it was, because it's usually harder to disprove lies than to prove the truth. Besides, they had the entire Communist/media complex in their pocket to protect them from discovery. What they didn't have was Fox News, and the internet. They forgot that all "news" doesn't have to pass through the Communist media's filters any more.
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Post by redleg on Oct 27, 2017 9:59:34 GMT -5
Did Steele pay his sources? Maybe, maybe not. But, even if he did, does this mean that his sources weren't accurate? You make it sound like Steele bought nothing but false information, information that he too knew was false. I seriously doubt that that was the case. Of course he paid his "sources". For one thing, unless he paid them, they wouldn't take him seriously. For another, they want to get as many as possible entangled in whatever scheme they are pulling. Second, payment doesn't mean they weren't accurate, but the fact that they were lies from the get go means that the DNC was willing to do anything at all to win. He did buy nothing but false information. So far, every provable allegation in the "dossier" has been proven fake. The rest of it, so far, has been unverifyable. Given the fact that what has been proven was faked, that makes the rest of it faked as well.
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Post by redleg on Oct 27, 2017 10:01:27 GMT -5
Who paid the Hookers? Trump There were no 'hookers' except at the Party of the KKK convention. If there had been, it would have been the Party of the KKK paying for them.
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Post by bobloblaw on Oct 27, 2017 10:07:03 GMT -5
Who paid the Hookers? Trump There were no 'hookers' except at the Party of the KKK convention. If there had been, it would have been the Party of the KKK paying for them. I'm talking about the hookers on Donnie Boy's Pee Pee Tape.
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Post by bobloblaw on Oct 27, 2017 10:08:07 GMT -5
And just what's the story, RJ? That a political campaign tried to get some dirt on an opponent? Happens all the time. However, I haven't seen any evidence that the Clinton campaign paid the Russians for info. What I've seen is that the campaign used an attorney to contract with Fusion -- after a Republican who had originally contracted with them stopped -- and Fusion hired Steele to collect information. But collusion? Probably no more than Don Jr. meeting with Russians to get dirt on Hillary. Do you have any evidence from a credible source that the Clinton colluded with the Russians? Really? The entire "dossier" that Steele sold to the DNC was made up, out of whole cloth, by Putin's secret police and political operatives. They were neck deep with the Russians, and the entire "Trump colluded with the Russians" lie was made up specifically to deflect from the fact that it was the Party of the KKK that was colluding, and buying from, the Russians. Comey, the FBI, MI6, and Mueller were all too happy to go after Trump with a document that they knew was faked, because it was used to get FISA warrants to spy on anyone they wanted to spy on. Nothing has been disproven from the dossier.
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Post by redleg on Oct 27, 2017 10:11:22 GMT -5
There were no 'hookers' except at the Party of the KKK convention. If there had been, it would have been the Party of the KKK paying for them. I'm talking about the hookers on Donnie Boy's Pee Pee Tape. Those were actually Waco Billy Boy's hookers. The Russians just lied about who paid them.
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Post by redleg on Oct 27, 2017 10:12:53 GMT -5
Really? The entire "dossier" that Steele sold to the DNC was made up, out of whole cloth, by Putin's secret police and political operatives. They were neck deep with the Russians, and the entire "Trump colluded with the Russians" lie was made up specifically to deflect from the fact that it was the Party of the KKK that was colluding, and buying from, the Russians. Comey, the FBI, MI6, and Mueller were all too happy to go after Trump with a document that they knew was faked, because it was used to get FISA warrants to spy on anyone they wanted to spy on. Nothing has been disproven from the dossier. Everything provable has been disproven. You just refuse to acknowledge the fact that it was your god, The Felon, that was colluding with the Russians, and lied to deflect from it. After all, she took a $145 million dollar bribe, plus a $500,000 bribe to Waco Billy Boy, to sell a fifth of our uranium to Putin.
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Post by Ranger John on Oct 27, 2017 10:13:44 GMT -5
There were no 'hookers' except at the Party of the KKK convention. If there had been, it would have been the Party of the KKK paying for them. I'm talking about the hookers on Donnie Boy's Pee Pee Tape. Given it was probably made by Harvey Weinstein in a stiudio, the Clinton’s probably paid them.
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Post by bobloblaw on Oct 27, 2017 10:28:38 GMT -5
The Blutard's Hookers kicked me right in my Mangina. It sent me to the Hospital again....
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Post by redleg on Oct 27, 2017 12:09:01 GMT -5
I'm talking about the hookers on Donnie Boy's Pee Pee Tape. Given it was probably made by Harvey Weinstein in a stiudio, the Clinton’s probably paid them. And Waco Billy Boy is jealous that he wasn't with the hookers.
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Post by aboutwell on Oct 27, 2017 12:22:56 GMT -5
Nothing has been disproven from the dossier. Everything provable has been disproven. You just refuse to acknowledge the fact that it was your god, The Felon, that was colluding with the Russians, and lied to deflect from it. After all, she took a $145 million dollar bribe, plus a $500,000 bribe to Waco Billy Boy, to sell a fifth of our uranium to Putin. NONE of what you say is true, Redleg... you'll see when Mueller is finished...
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Post by aboutwell on Oct 27, 2017 12:29:28 GMT -5
Did Steele pay his sources? Maybe, maybe not. But, even if he did, does this mean that his sources weren't accurate? You make it sound like Steele bought nothing but false information, information that he too knew was false. I seriously doubt that that was the case. There is information in the dossier that has been proven false. Obviously some of his sources were wrong. Beyond that, it is not on the accused to prove the charges against him are false. It's on the accusor to prove that they are true. What we have now is some accusations have been proven false, and others that remain unverified. Many of the accusations probably will never be proven or disproved. Until something untword is proven though, the dossier has to remain discredited. And the longer we go without proof of collusion or some other disqualifying activity, the less likely it will be that any is discovered. Paying for information is a dodgy proposition to begin with. It leads to the question of whether the source is just providing you with what you want to hear to make some quick cash. However, it is equally unlikely that people would just give you something of value, including information, for nothing. Especially in a country like Russia. Unless of course, seeing Trump crash and burn is worth it to the source. Which, kinda undermines the whole, Putin was supporting Trump narrative. What we do know, from the Washington Post, is that Clinton and the DNC passed money through some lawyers, to Fusion GPS, which paid Christopher Steele for information on Trump, which Steele got from the Russians. No sane person believes Steele didn't pay anything to any of his sources. Because that is simply not the way the world works, especially not in Russia. So, what DO we have? We have the DEMOCRATS, paying the Russians, through a couple of intermediaries to provide anti-Trump information in order to influence the election. In short, there is more substance to the charge that HILLARY colluded with the Russians than there is that Trump did. Julian and Wikileaks can't be right about everything, you know... Mueller will uncover it all... unless he gets so close that Trump cans him first...
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Post by redleg on Oct 27, 2017 12:31:56 GMT -5
Everything provable has been disproven. You just refuse to acknowledge the fact that it was your god, The Felon, that was colluding with the Russians, and lied to deflect from it. After all, she took a $145 million dollar bribe, plus a $500,000 bribe to Waco Billy Boy, to sell a fifth of our uranium to Putin. NONE of what you say is true, Redleg... you'll see when Mueller is finished... Everything I've said is true. Nothing in that faked document has been proven, and everything they have been able to 'verify' has been proven false. It was The Felon and her campaign that paid for that 'dossier', knowing that it was coming from Russian intelligence, who had every reason to spread as much disinformation as they could. They knew it was faked, and ran with it anyway. She did take a $145 million bribe to sell our uranium to Putin, and her husband did get $500,000 for a "speech", at the time his wife was lobbying for the sale to go through. She knew that the FBI had a bribery and extortion investigation going against the Russians running the company that was trying to buy the uranium, and lobbied for them anyway.
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Post by redleg on Oct 27, 2017 12:33:07 GMT -5
There is information in the dossier that has been proven false. Obviously some of his sources were wrong. Beyond that, it is not on the accused to prove the charges against him are false. It's on the accusor to prove that they are true. What we have now is some accusations have been proven false, and others that remain unverified. Many of the accusations probably will never be proven or disproved. Until something untword is proven though, the dossier has to remain discredited. And the longer we go without proof of collusion or some other disqualifying activity, the less likely it will be that any is discovered. Paying for information is a dodgy proposition to begin with. It leads to the question of whether the source is just providing you with what you want to hear to make some quick cash. However, it is equally unlikely that people would just give you something of value, including information, for nothing. Especially in a country like Russia. Unless of course, seeing Trump crash and burn is worth it to the source. Which, kinda undermines the whole, Putin was supporting Trump narrative. What we do know, from the Washington Post, is that Clinton and the DNC passed money through some lawyers, to Fusion GPS, which paid Christopher Steele for information on Trump, which Steele got from the Russians. No sane person believes Steele didn't pay anything to any of his sources. Because that is simply not the way the world works, especially not in Russia. So, what DO we have? We have the DEMOCRATS, paying the Russians, through a couple of intermediaries to provide anti-Trump information in order to influence the election. In short, there is more substance to the charge that HILLARY colluded with the Russians than there is that Trump did. Julian and Wikileaks can't be right about everything, you know... Mueller will uncover it all... unless he gets so close that Trump cans him first... Mueller is about to become one of the suspects in a new FBI investigation, since he was instrumental in the coverup leading to the sale of our uranium to Uranium 1.
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Post by Ranger John on Oct 27, 2017 12:53:13 GMT -5
Given it was probably made by Harvey Weinstein in a stiudio, the Clinton’s probably paid them. And Waco Billy Boy is jealous that he wasn't with the hookers. Nah. Bubba isn’t jealous at all. Who the hell else do you think is wearing the Trump mask?
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Post by redleg on Oct 27, 2017 12:58:22 GMT -5
And Waco Billy Boy is jealous that he wasn't with the hookers. Nah. Bubba isn’t jealous at all. Who the hell else do you think is wearing the Trump mask? Sorry, didn't notice that.
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Post by bobloblaw on Oct 27, 2017 13:10:20 GMT -5
The Deplorables are easily duped by Russian Fake News. That's been proven countless times.
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Post by bobloblaw on Oct 27, 2017 13:15:43 GMT -5
The Ugandan Blutards dupe me every day. The Headshrinker is Laughing his head off....
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Post by Ranger John on Oct 27, 2017 13:19:54 GMT -5
The Deplorables are easily duped by Russian Fake News. That's been proven countless times. You still have the nerve to say something so absurd after the Washington Post made it clear that it was Hillary paying the Russians for fake news? Or are you saying its Clinton and her drones that are deplorable? Because that actually fits reality.
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Post by redleg on Oct 27, 2017 13:27:21 GMT -5
The Deplorables are easily duped by Russian Fake News. That's been proven countless times. You still have the nerve to say something so absurd after the Washington Post made it clear that it was Hillary paying the Russians for fake news? Or are you saying its Clinton and her drones that are deplorable? Because that actually fits reality. He only thinks it's "fake news" if it shows the corruption and criminality of the Party of the KKK. The truth, to him, is fake news. Only propaganda from the LR media can ever be trusted.
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Post by aboutwell on Oct 28, 2017 8:30:19 GMT -5
First arrest may be made Monday, guys... FIRST indictment approved yesterday... fake, huh?...
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