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Post by Ranger John on Jan 28, 2018 9:35:42 GMT -5
It is certainly clear that the Clinton campaign, Obama administration, and DNC came much closer to colluding with the Russians to influence the election than Trump did. Or at least there is FAR more evidence of it for the Dems than GOP. They thought the Steele Dossier was going to take down Trump. If they’re not careful, it could take down Comey, Mueller, Hillary and Obama. Which is exactly why they are screaming so much about nonstories like "Trump tried to fire Mueller". He didn't. He may have discussed it, in a "I wonder what would happen if...." kind of way, but he never tried to fire him. But they have to deflect attention from the fact that their entire house of cards is collapsing. That does seem like a distraction from this memo Nunez wants to release. |
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Post by palealeman on Jan 28, 2018 13:55:34 GMT -5
Amazing! We have a xenophobic, white supremacist, authoritarian-government-loving, woman-hating mind reader who knows just what Donald Trump was thinking back in June. Even though there are corroborated stories from multiple sources that the President had decided to fire Mr. Mueller butd was talked out of it. Must be a wonderful gift to have.
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Post by Ranger John on Jan 28, 2018 14:07:16 GMT -5
Amazing! We have a xenophobic, white supremacist, authoritarian-government-loving, woman-hating mind reader who knows just what Donald Trump was thinking back in June. Even though there are corroborated stories from multiple sources that the President had decided to fire Mr. Mueller butd was talked out of it. Must be a wonderful gift to have. You do indeed seem quite sure about what Trump was thinking back in June. |
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Post by palealeman on Jan 28, 2018 16:46:22 GMT -5
Not me, RJ. I have no idea what he was thinking. I did read the corroborated news reports. It's your Commie friend who knows what President Trump was thinking . . . or thinks he does. Sounds delusional to me.
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Post by Ranger John on Jan 28, 2018 17:22:27 GMT -5
Not me, RJ. I have no idea what he was thinking. I did read the corroborated news reports. It's your Commie friend who knows what President Trump was thinking . . . or thinks he does. Sounds delusional to me. The “corroborated news reports”? The White House Counsel’s office is leaking privileged information it has a duty to protect. If it can be so unprofessional that it leaks this stuff, the content of the stuff can’t be trusted. |
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Post by palealeman on Jan 28, 2018 18:10:10 GMT -5
Why do you presume it's the counsel's office? Could there have been other people there at the time? Rumors can run rampant in a small office -- and 200 or so people is small
And, other than President Trump, who has denied that this information is correct? Even Fox has admitted it's true.
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Post by Ranger John on Jan 28, 2018 19:02:13 GMT -5
Why do you presume it's the counsel's office? Could there have been other people there at the time? Rumors can run rampant in a small office -- and 200 or so people is small And, other than President Trump, who has denied that this information is correct? Even Fox has admitted it's true. First, even if the claims are 100% correct, they amount to Trump asking the WH Attorney to fire Mueller, and the attorney explaining why that would be bad, and talking Trump out of it. There is NOTHING remotely scandalous about this. What is scandalous about this is the way this encounter has been leaked to the media in violation of the WH Attorney’s office DUTY to keep this event confidential. This exchange is also covered under executive privilege. It is unlikely that it was leaked by a Trump partisan, which leaves pretty much just the WH Counsel’s office. Of course given we don’t actually know who leaked it, the anonymous source should also be discounted as probably just a troll, they wouldn’t be the first to lie to the media about stuff going on in the Oval Office. |
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Post by Ranger John on Jan 28, 2018 20:41:58 GMT -5
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Post by palealeman on Jan 28, 2018 20:47:14 GMT -5
Whatever you say, RJ. You continue to try to remake reality to conform with your unthinking partisanship. We used to expect better from you, but now realize you're nothing than an unthinking partisan hack shilling for Trump. You're losing all credibility.
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Post by Ranger John on Jan 28, 2018 20:49:51 GMT -5
Whatever you say, RJ. You continue to try to remake reality to conform with your unthinking partisanship. We used to expect better from you, but now realize you're nothing than an unthinking partisan hack shilling for Trump. You're losing all credibility. Lmao... says a man who is unable to explain why the original conversation is even problematic, except that he detests Trump for not being Obama, and resents the fact that Trump would discuss firing Mueller with the appropriate people. |
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Post by redleg on Jan 28, 2018 22:18:16 GMT -5
Amazing! We have a xenophobic, white supremacist, authoritarian-government-loving, woman-hating mind reader who knows just what Donald Trump was thinking back in June. Even though there are corroborated stories from multiple sources that the President had decided to fire Mr. Mueller butd was talked out of it. Must be a wonderful gift to have. No, The Puppet is no longer in the public eye. However, your description of the fake news sycophants is pretty much spot on. After all, they are all Party of the KKK sycophants as well, which means lying to get Trump is considered a 'public service'. They are not "corroborated from multiple sources', they are all from a single source, and multiple fake news outlets have been screaming about it. His legal counsel said he never even proposed firing Mueller, that he simply asked the question about what would happen. He has the authority, from the Constitution you hate so much, to fire anyone in the Executive Branch. His authority is real, while Muellers is made up. Not to mention that Mueller's "investigation" is illegal, according to the statutes that authorize a special investigation. He has no crime to investigate, and that's the primary requirement for a special counsel. |
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Post by redleg on Jan 28, 2018 22:20:19 GMT -5
Not me, RJ. I have no idea what he was thinking. I did read the corroborated news reports. It's your Commie friend who knows what President Trump was thinking . . . or thinks he does. Sounds delusional to me. No, you have the Communist propaganda that took a statement and turned it into an "intent". Regardless, your Communist commissars are taking an event that didn't happen, and making a weeks worth of news out of it. So what if he had wanted to fire Mueller? Mueller has no authority, and will get no convictions, because everything he's gotten came from a fake document, and illegal spying. No judge, other than a Puppet appointed shill, would even take the case. |
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Post by redleg on Jan 28, 2018 22:22:14 GMT -5
Whatever you say, RJ. You continue to try to remake reality to conform with your unthinking partisanship. We used to expect better from you, but now realize you're nothing than an unthinking partisan hack shilling for Trump. You're losing all credibility. No, you have already ignored reality in favor of Communist propaganda. If it comes from any of the fake news outlets, CNN, WaPo, NBC, CBS, ABC, MSNBC, LAT, or any of the others, it can be considered a lie by definition. |
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Post by Ranger John on Jan 29, 2018 9:53:07 GMT -5
Andy McCarthy has a good take on this story here: www.nationalreview.com/article/455841/trump-mueller-interview-president-refuse-requestMulling over legal strategies and what ifs with the White House Counsel’s office is the reason that office exists. If it can not be trusted to keep those conversations confidential, it has failed in it’s primary duty to the President. The leaker needs to be tracked down and fired. If it’s an attorney they need to be disbarred. |
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Post by redleg on Jan 29, 2018 10:22:40 GMT -5
Andy McCarthy has a good take on this story here: www.nationalreview.com/article/455841/trump-mueller-interview-president-refuse-requestMulling over legal strategies and what ifs with the White House Counsel’s office is the reason that office exists. If it can not be trusted to keep those conversations confidential, it has failed in it’s primary duty to the President. The leaker needs to be tracked down and fired. If it’s an attorney they need to be disbarred. They are simply paranoid, because they know that, if Mueller goes away, or the details of his illegal "investigation" are ever released, they are done as a party. |
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Post by palealeman on Jan 29, 2018 15:00:18 GMT -5
I'd expect nothing less from McCarthy, RJ, another staunch conservative who looks at things through conservative glasses. Of course he's going to say what he said and support the R viewpoint. More of your unthinking partisanship.
And several members of Congress seem to have a problem with Trump firing Mueller. Some of them seem to think that it would constitute obstruction of justice.
Why fire Mueller in the middle of an investigation? My take -- he's getting too close to Trump. What's Trump afraid of?
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Post by Ranger John on Jan 29, 2018 15:27:15 GMT -5
I'd expect nothing less from McCarthy, RJ, another staunch conservative who looks at things through conservative glasses. Of course he's going to say what he said and support the R viewpoint. More of your unthinking partisanship. And several members of Congress seem to have a problem with Trump firing Mueller. Some of them seem to think that it would constitute obstruction of justice. Why fire Mueller in the middle of an investigation? My take -- he's getting too close to Trump. What's Trump afraid of? He's acting more like an innocent man who is exhausted by a corrupt prosecutor. |
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Post by aboutwell on Jan 30, 2018 9:27:43 GMT -5
Trump doesn't know what "innocence" is... he wouldn't be where he is today had he not been so unscrupulous...
He's likely paid his way out of more situations than you or I will ever know... like his porn queen...
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Post by redleg on Jan 30, 2018 10:01:37 GMT -5
I'd expect nothing less from McCarthy, RJ, another staunch conservative who looks at things through conservative glasses. Of course he's going to say what he said and support the R viewpoint. More of your unthinking partisanship. And several members of Congress seem to have a problem with Trump firing Mueller. Some of them seem to think that it would constitute obstruction of justice. Why fire Mueller in the middle of an investigation? My take -- he's getting too close to Trump. What's Trump afraid of? How is it "obstruction of justice"? You, nor any of your masters, have ever identified exactly what law they think Trump violated. I have asked you multiple times to tell all of us lesser beings the exact code and paragraph that Mueller was installed to investigate. You can't. There isn't one. The entire thing is nothing but a coup attempt by the Party of the KKK. The only collusion during the election was The Felon and the DNC colluding with the Russians to produce a fake 'dossier' to damage Trump. Then the Communists that The Puppet installed using that faked document to spy on the Trump campaign. "Getting too close to Trump"? No, they are getting too close to exposing the treason, corruption, and anti Americanism of The Puppet regime and the DNC. |
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Post by redleg on Jan 30, 2018 10:05:15 GMT -5
Trump doesn't know what "innocence" is... he wouldn't be where he is today had he not been so unscrupulous... He's likely paid his way out of more situations than you or I will ever know... like his porn queen... Really? That means The Felon should be facing a death sentence, then. She committed treason in the Uranium 1 fiasco, and with her selling of national security secrets through her private server. Of course, because she was the head of the Party of the KKK, and was facing sycophants in the DOJ and FBI, she knew nothing would happen, and if she had won, there would be a lot of "accidents" to those that knew too much, because she wouldn't be able to count on all of them keeping their mouths shut. Seth Rich, or Vince Foster, anyone? |
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Post by aboutwell on Jan 31, 2018 9:19:27 GMT -5
You are truly delusional, Redleg... I really feel sorry for people who think like you do... such unjustified hate... the "right" has been after Hillary since 1974 and still have not been able to get anything to stick on her yet... but they keep trying... 44 YEARS... and people like you keep hoping... all in vain... put it behind you and enjoy what life you have left... like me... I'll be 70 in 16 days...
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Post by aboutwell on Jan 31, 2018 9:24:19 GMT -5
I'd expect nothing less from McCarthy, RJ, another staunch conservative who looks at things through conservative glasses. Of course he's going to say what he said and support the R viewpoint. More of your unthinking partisanship. And several members of Congress seem to have a problem with Trump firing Mueller. Some of them seem to think that it would constitute obstruction of justice. Why fire Mueller in the middle of an investigation? My take -- he's getting too close to Trump. What's Trump afraid of? How is it "obstruction of justice"? You, nor any of your masters, have ever identified exactly what law they think Trump violated. I have asked you multiple times to tell all of us lesser beings the exact code and paragraph that Mueller was installed to investigate. You can't. There isn't one. The entire thing is nothing but a coup attempt by the Party of the KKK. The only collusion during the election was The Felon and the DNC colluding with the Russians to produce a fake 'dossier' to damage Trump. Then the Communists that The Puppet installed using that faked document to spy on the Trump campaign. "Getting too close to Trump"? No, they are getting too close to exposing the treason, corruption, and anti Americanism of The Puppet regime and the DNC. If Mueller ever gets Trump under oath or in the presence of the FBI... and asks him "Did you order Mueller fired?... if he says yes, it's obstruction of justice... if he says no, it's perjury... the two charges for which Bill Clinton was impeached... |
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Post by redleg on Jan 31, 2018 12:11:21 GMT -5
I'd expect nothing less from McCarthy, RJ, another staunch conservative who looks at things through conservative glasses. Of course he's going to say what he said and support the R viewpoint. More of your unthinking partisanship. And several members of Congress seem to have a problem with Trump firing Mueller. Some of them seem to think that it would constitute obstruction of justice. Why fire Mueller in the middle of an investigation? My take -- he's getting too close to Trump. What's Trump afraid of? Of course, the fact that McCarthy was absolutely correct about Russian spies, and the Communist media destroyed him for it, is irrelevant. And yet, no one, NO ONE, has explained exactly how it's obstruction of justice, since Comey told him, at least 3 times, he wasn't being investigated. Not to mention that Comey had committed perjury, grounds for firing anyone in the government. Except Waco Billy Boy, of course. He's a Party of the KKK hero, so of course he wasn't fired. Besides, if they really want to go in the direction of obstruction of justice, they are aiming directly at The Felon, for her destruction of 33,000 emails that were under subpoena, and that it was a crime for her to destroy anyway, since they all belonged to the government. |
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Post by redleg on Jan 31, 2018 12:16:10 GMT -5
You are truly delusional, Redleg... I really feel sorry for people who think like you do... such unjustified hate... the "right" has been after Hillary since 1974 and still have not been able to get anything to stick on her yet... but they keep trying... 44 YEARS... and people like you keep hoping... all in vain... put it behind you and enjoy what life you have left... like me... I'll be 70 in 16 days... That's because the junta that she and Waco Billy Boy created, both in AR and in DC, are there to protect her. She destroyed 33,000 emails that were under subpoena. She set up a private, secret sever so she could sell national security information to Putin, she had the personal files of 900 government workers delivered to her, she had her "friend", Vince Foster murdered, and a host of other crimes she has committed that she won't face justice for, because she's protected by the swamp dwellers. Just setting up the server was a crime. It's a violation of classified information handling laws for her to have done that. Mishandling classified information was a crime, regardless of "intent", although the fact that she set up a secret server showed intent. Comey and the FBI lied, and committed obstruction of justice, because they were never going to charge her. The Puppet had already told them they weren't going to. And they were counting on her winning, so all of the crimes could, once again, be swept under the rug, never to surface again. |
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Post by redleg on Jan 31, 2018 12:19:30 GMT -5
How is it "obstruction of justice"? You, nor any of your masters, have ever identified exactly what law they think Trump violated. I have asked you multiple times to tell all of us lesser beings the exact code and paragraph that Mueller was installed to investigate. You can't. There isn't one. The entire thing is nothing but a coup attempt by the Party of the KKK. The only collusion during the election was The Felon and the DNC colluding with the Russians to produce a fake 'dossier' to damage Trump. Then the Communists that The Puppet installed using that faked document to spy on the Trump campaign. "Getting too close to Trump"? No, they are getting too close to exposing the treason, corruption, and anti Americanism of The Puppet regime and the DNC. If Mueller ever gets Trump under oath or in the presence of the FBI... and asks him "Did you order Mueller fired?... if he says yes, it's obstruction of justice... if he says no, it's perjury... the two charges for which Bill Clinton was impeached... First, no it isn't. He has the authority to fire anyone in the Executive Branch, any time and for any reason he wants. Second, he didn't fire him. There is no "obstruction of justice" for intending to do something, but not doing it. Second, Waco Billy Boy has already taken perjury out of the equation. He's negated impeachment, or any punishment, for it. You can't have your cake and eat it too. Waco Billy Boy committed perjury, then remained in office, because the Party of the KKK refused to do their duty under the Constitution. Not to mention that, unless the FBI can prove, with a brain scan, or tapes, or something concrete, that that's what he was thinking at the time, there is no perjury. |
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