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Post by palealeman on May 12, 2018 15:04:45 GMT -5
Just what I expected, RJ. A complete denial of any truth. Typical unthinking, uncritacal partisanship at it's highest. One of us is in for a rude awakening in the next few months, and I hope that when yourtiny world and narrow-minded belief system is shattered you can find a reality to hold on to . . .because you sure.don't have one now.
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Post by Ranger John on May 12, 2018 15:11:16 GMT -5
Just what I expected, RJ. A complete denial of any truth. Typical unthinking, uncritacal partisanship at it's highest. One of us is in for a rude awakening in the next few months, and I hope that when yourtiny world and narrow-minded belief system is shattered you can find a reality to hold on to . . .because you sure.don't have one now. Just what I expected, PAM. A complete denial of any truth.... oh never mind. Here's the thing about people who insist they have a monopoly on the truth: they are almost always religious zealots. You and the rest of the left abuse the "truth" exactly the same way Marshall Applewhite did.
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Post by palealeman on May 12, 2018 17:18:50 GMT -5
What is truth, RJ? Apparently you don't know and have no idea where to look. But that'swhat we expect from unthinking partisans who follow talking points which they don't understand.
Example: The commie said that the economy did better under Trump than in the last 18 years. As usual, he make the statement with no supporting information, nothing to compare. I posted that the S&P did better in Obama's first year than in Trump's. You said the commie's statement is higher and that the GDP is higher. So I checked. In 2017, Trump's first year in office, the GDP grew by 2.3%. In three of Obama's years the GDP grew by a higher pencentage. It grew by a higher percentage in 4 of Bush's 8 years. And, though outside his parameter, the GDP grew by over 4% in 4 consecutive years under President Clinton. So it appears that the commie's statement is inaccurate, and your agreeing with him shows that you don't appear to know what you're talking about.
Yes, the President as head of the Executive Branch can fire anyone. But remember what happened to Nixon when he tried to fire a special prosecutor looking into his actions. He would have been impeached. Trump can fire anyone, but when the reason is to obstruct an investigation he better have a better reason that I don't like him or I don't trust him. You fail to see the distinctions here, but that's not surprising.
Iran did not take US money. Iran took Iran's money that had been frozen in the US since 1979. The matter had been under consideration in an International Court for 40 years. It was iran's money, not the US's. But why let facts get in the way of a "fake news" talking point to criticize a democratic president?
And you have the temerity to claim that some of my comments are self-contradictory and that I've tied myself into a logic knot . . . but you don't bother to identify anything that you consider self-contradictory. Probably because you can't. You've already shown that you don't have much grasp of philosophy, logic, or critical thinking processes.
And then you start a thread about truth? In which you hold yourself up as the arbiter of truth and claim that you have at least one foot in reality? I've read that post and have no idea what you're saying or why you're saying it. But it's obvious from what I've just posted above that you have no idea with truth is. For you, it's whatever you want it to be, whether it matches up with reality or not . . . and most of the time it doesn't.
You're not the arbiter of truth. You don't possess the truth. The right does not possess the truth. In reality, the right is leading us into a totalitarian, authoritarian government, a government good for the rich (see the recent tax cuts) and bad for everyone else (as the Republicans try to cut Medicare, Medicaid, and SNAP).
Thank God I'm not an unthinking mindless partisan like you and the commie.
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Post by Ranger John on May 12, 2018 17:37:37 GMT -5
What is truth, RJ? Apparently you don't know and have no idea where to look. But that'swhat we expect from unthinking partisans who follow talking points which they don't understand. Example: The commie said that the economy did better under Trump than in the last 18 years. As usual, he make the statement with no supporting information, nothing to compare. I posted that the S&P did better in Obama's first year than in Trump's. You said the commie's statement is higher and that the GDP is higher. So I checked. In 2017, Trump's first year in office, the GDP grew by 2.3%. In three of Obama's years the GDP grew by a higher pencentage. It grew by a higher percentage in 4 of Bush's 8 years. And, though outside his parameter, the GDP grew by over 4% in 4 consecutive years under President Clinton. So it appears that the commie's statement is inaccurate, and your agreeing with him shows that you don't appear to know what you're talking about. Yet combined with the record low unemployment numbers, a compelling case can be made that the economy is better now than it has been in decades. Unless, of course, you deliberately ignore unemployment because of simple-minded partisanship. Firing Comey didn’t obstruct an investigation. It continues. In spite of the fact that the sole purpose of the investigation is to impede the executive branch. Mueller has arguably committed more felonies than Trump has. The facts/truth of this is that Iran uses that money to fund international terrorism. That fact alone makes the money forfeit. For all the same reasons that the US government doesn’t return mafia money once it has been seized. I’ve been putting your logic knots on display for years. I’ve done it twice already in this post. But your unquestioned faith in the Heaven’s Gate... I mean Leftist narrative prevents you from understanding. This is where you refute the point I made in the other thread by claiming a woman can have a Y chromosome. Do it. I dare you. Yes, we all know that’s a role you reserve solely for yourself, and your programmers at the fact-check sites and the legacy media. ROTFLMAO! Says the guy who had to turn a thread about Eric Schneiderman into a thread about Donald Trump.
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Post by palealeman on May 13, 2018 21:09:12 GMT -5
Please define "record low unemployment numbers," RJ. Are you referring to the unemployment rate (3.9% in April)? Is that your basis for saying the economy is doing better under Trump that it has in 20 or 30 years?
And maybe we should have kept the money instead of returning it to its lawful owners. But, had we done that, we might have been on the hook of $10 billion instead, the amount that Tehran was asking for in the international court. Looks like we got a bargain.
But again, your unthinking partisan mindset is just that -- unthinking. Which we've seen for years. And will continue to see for years to come, I'm sure. I'm told that ignorance is bliss. You and the commie must be two of the happiest people in the world.
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Post by Ranger John on May 14, 2018 7:00:25 GMT -5
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Post by palealeman on May 14, 2018 10:32:01 GMT -5
(1) Can you please answer the question? Are unemployment numbers basis for stating the economy is doing better under Trump than at any time in the last 20 or 30 years?
(2) I believe the US is a party to the International Court of Justice. In fact, there is a US judge sitting on the court. However, the US is not a party to the International Criminal Court. Do you have anything to back up your claim? I could not find anything that supports your position.
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Post by redleg on May 14, 2018 10:37:15 GMT -5
Sorry about the healthcare, RJ, especially losing $4000. I see no reason for something that to happen. On the other hand, at least part of the blame here has to go to your employer, for some reason changed plans. Sounds like you employer was looking to save money at the expense of the employees. Sorry also to see that you have a spokesperson who must be related to Sarah Huckabee Sanders. Both have severe problems with the truth. Let's look at a little of what he said. He hasn't been "formally charged" with obstruction of justice because they can't charge him with obstruction of justice. Exercising his Constitutional authority while in office is not and cannot be, obstruction of justice. Everyone in the Executive Branch works for the President. The President can fire anyone in the Executive Branch for any reason, any time, or for no reason whatsoever. It's his Constitutional authority, therefore, only the terminally ignorant could even think it was obstruction of justice.. The "growth" you speak of was actually stagnation. 1%, or 1.5% is not growth. Unemployment is lower than it's been in over 20 years, black unemployment is lower than it's ever been since records have been kept. The DJ has set new records almost every month, manufacturing has grown more in the last year than it has in the last 20 or so, and consumer confidence is higher than it's been in decades. Other than that, you are correct. The S&P did grow more under The Puppet's first year, in the Party of the KKK created recession, than it did under Trump's first year. And The Puppet didn't "inherit" a recession, he and his criminal organization created the recession. No, it's only hard to decipher for those that can't read or think. Fake news is what the LR media is. They report lies, innuendo, half truths, or simply refuse to report anything that doesn't fit their agenda. Like when CNN regurgitated that the Trump campaign had Wikileaks info before it was published, and had to retract it. Or the nonstop propaganda about Stormy Daniels, when they have no idea whether she's telling the truth or not. We know she has lied about it at least once, since she swore at first that there was no affair. I notice that you never call CNN, NBC, ABC, CBS, NYT, or any of the other LR media when they lie about Trump. Like publishing a fake dossier to try to damage him. Even the FBI says it's fake. Most of the "fact checking sites" are Leftist propaganda sites. They only "fact check" if they think they can prove something wrong that inhibits their agenda. No, we paid them, ostensibly with money we had frozen, but was really from the Shah's Iran. Iran is an enemy. They have sworn to kill us, or enslave us. You don't pay enemies. Period. And if it was "their" money, why did The Puppet send a plane, in the middle of the night, and do his best to keep anyone from knowing? And what about the $1.5 billion he paid to get our hostages back? So far, you are 0 for 4. So, because you don't pay any taxes, you don't realize that the tax cuts don't take effect until next year. Yes, the withholding has started, but you don't get the breaks until you file next year. Sorry, until the tax payer files. The only reason it's so short lived is because the Party of the KKK can't stand to see all that money not come into their own bank accounts. They think all money is theirs, and it kills them to let the earners actually keep what they earned. It doesn't matter if some companies didn't give bonuses. Higher pay, expansion so the employees can keep their jobs instead of the company going bankrupt, paying dividends, all are positive results of the tax bill. There never was an "Iran Deal". That was just another lie by The Puppet. Iran never signed it, it was never presented to Congress, and there was nothing legally binding on either Iran or the US. It was all smoke and mirrors to make the non sentinent believe The Puppet was actually doing something. No, it just describes your level of comprehension. Since you missed on every "point" you tried to make, I guess you will go back into hiding.
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Post by redleg on May 14, 2018 10:46:10 GMT -5
What is truth, RJ? Apparently you don't know and have no idea where to look. But that'swhat we expect from unthinking partisans who follow talking points which they don't understand. "In 3 of The Puppet's years". Not his first year. And, as you continually whine, he had a recession, that his party created. That means it should have been relatively easy to grow the economy. Again, it grew higher in "4 of Bushes 8 years". Not his first year. Under Waco Billy Boy, it didn't start growing at that rate until the Pubs took back Congress, and stopped his Socialist agenda. Nixon was savaged by the LR media, to the point that his approval ratings were down to about 20%. His "friends" in Congress went to him and "suggested" that he resign instead of being impeached. Trump has every authority to fire Mueller, and should, since Mueller is simply wasting tax money, finding nothing, and trying to institute a coup. Not only fire him, but have the DOJ investigate him for fraud, waste, and abuse. And possibly extortion in the case of Flynn. No, that was money the Shah paid for weapons systems, but was deposed before they could be delivered. It did not belong to the current group of fascists and terrorists. Not to mention the fact that you don't pay your enemies.
And you have the temerity to claim that some of my comments are self-contradictory and that I've tied myself into a logic knot . . . but you don't bother to identify anything that you consider self-contradictory. Probably because you can't. You've already shown that you don't have much grasp of philosophy, logic, or critical thinking processes. And then you start a thread about truth? In which you hold yourself up as the arbiter of truth and claim that you have at least one foot in reality? I've read that post and have no idea what you're saying or why you're saying it. But it's obvious from what I've just posted above that you have no idea with truth is. For you, it's whatever you want it to be, whether it matches up with reality or not . . . and most of the time it doesn't. You're not the arbiter of truth. You don't possess the truth. The right does not possess the truth. In reality, the right is leading us into a totalitarian, authoritarian government, a government good for the rich (see the recent tax cuts) and bad for everyone else (as the Republicans try to cut Medicare, Medicaid, and SNAP). Thank God I'm not an unthinking mindless partisan like you and the commie.
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Post by redleg on May 14, 2018 10:49:55 GMT -5
That's one indicator. I've given 3 or 4 more, which you can't refute. You simply claimed the S&P prove me wrong. Shows how shallow your understanding is. They aren't the "lawful owners". The government of the Shah was the lawful owner. Not the mullahs. And Iran can ask for whatever it wants. Doesn't mean they will get it. Well, you have proven, once again, that you have no idea what you are talking about. Without the Communist propaganda you get from your owners, you wouldn't have anything at all to talk about.
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Post by Ranger John on May 14, 2018 10:58:41 GMT -5
(1) Can you please answer the question? Are unemployment numbers basis for stating the economy is doing better under Trump than at any time in the last 20 or 30 years? They are one piece of the puzzle. Combined with a good GDP number, and rising consumer confidence numbers, a solid case can be made that the economy is doing better than it has in a couple decades. www.usatoday.com/story/money/economy/2018/02/27/u-s-consumer-confidence-rises-highest-level-since-november-2000/376689002/You're right. I got them confused. Either way, it doesn't much matter. The US would have been wholly justified in refusing to turn over money that would find it's way to terrorist organizations.
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