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Post by Deleted on Nov 1, 2013 12:00:06 GMT -5
Can you provide us with a quality link, citing your version of the events of the neutralizing of OBL? It was all over the web when it occurred, I heard that the WH was busy scrubbing the web of this version. But I doubt anything that I come up with would be the "quality" that you are looking for so I am not going to bother, believe what you will. No, I guess not, in which case I'll go with the known version of events thanks. |
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Post by howarewegoingtopay on Nov 1, 2013 12:18:02 GMT -5
It was all over the web when it occurred, I heard that the WH was busy scrubbing the web of this version. But I doubt anything that I come up with would be the "quality" that you are looking for so I am not going to bother, believe what you will. No, I guess not, in which case I'll go with the known version of events thanks. Your welcome, I understand the need to not clutter the mind with alternate theories.  |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 1, 2013 12:34:58 GMT -5
No, I guess not, in which case I'll go with the known version of events thanks. Your welcome, I understand the need to not clutter the mind with alternate theories. ... Some thoughts from a cluttered mind. |
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Post by davo on Nov 1, 2013 13:53:37 GMT -5
No, how about when those Brooks Brothers-wearing thugs showed up in Broward County in 2000 to muscle people around as they were attempting to recount votes in Florida, for an example right off the top of my head? That was pretty phucking disruptive, not to mention the town halls were right wingers were screaming at their Representatives about the 'death panels' that never were? The list goes on, pal. Be very careful, son, you'll separate a shoulder trying to reach that far. Let's see if I can make it simple enough for you: Kelly was invited to speak at brown university and was prevented from doing so by a vocal and disruptive minority whose admitted agenda was to stop the lecture. Is this a good or bad thing? Let's make it simple for you: Obstructing vote counting in the 2000 election is hardly 'reaching.' Well, maybe it's a long time ago for folks who believe earth was created a few thousand years ago and humans used to ride dino's. It's a all relative, I suppose. |
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Post by drjohnnyfever on Nov 1, 2013 13:58:16 GMT -5
Be very careful, son, you'll separate a shoulder trying to reach that far. Let's see if I can make it simple enough for you: Kelly was invited to speak at brown university and was prevented from doing so by a vocal and disruptive minority whose admitted agenda was to stop the lecture. Is this a good or bad thing? Let's make it simple for you: Obstructing vote counting in the 2000 election is hardly 'reaching.' Well, maybe it's a long time ago for folks who believe earth was created a few thousand years ago and humans used to ride dino's. It's a all relative, I suppose. Let's leave your relatives out of this....and your lack of response would indicate that suppression of speech is just hunky-dory with you....as long as the "right" speech is being suppressed. |
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Post by dogbert on Nov 1, 2013 13:59:39 GMT -5
Holy cow. Yet you guys can go On and on and on about minorities, the poor, guns illegal aliens and abortions yet the fact you are losing important personal rights is a chance to knock lefties again? My god.... Hope yall keep losing elections. We hope you continue to live happily drinking the poison Kool-Aid of liberalism until the bitter end. Slavery is a horrible thing and you folks continue to forge your own chains, unbelievable! |
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Post by dogbert on Nov 1, 2013 14:15:08 GMT -5
Well, we'll have to see how it works, won't we? It will probably end up working, and you may or may not be able to lower your insurance rates by picking a better policy on the exchanges. Wow, you won't even concede that Obama presided over the take-down of bin Laden? I mean there are more positive things he's done, but let's just start with that and take it from there. You're not buying into the right wing bull sh$t that he didn't make it happen, are you? Really!, really, Yoda?? You seem to buy into the left wing bull sh$t that Obama actually made a decision, looking at his track record of not knowing anything I don't find it hard to believe that they kept him in the dark about OSBL until the last second, it has been shown that he canceled three other times, and was waffling on the last one. Yes he did give the go ahead, but being bullied because the seals were in the air and it would look bad if he cancelled at that time is not really how a good leader makes decisions. But you go ahead and believe the constant stream of lies that come from the WH. It seems to me that obama is such an incompetent boob that "the smartest man ever to be president" is just a mere puppet. They figured they find a likeable black token to be the face of the party make it a civil crime to oppose anything he says less you are branded a racist which worked for a while and now with obamacare disaster and his other failures which he claims to know nothing about, I believe him because his handlers just don't tell him anything. I also know that while he can't tell you anything about running the country (into the ground) he certainly knows all the latest celebrity gossip and talk show circuit buzz. He is just a step and fetch it that much is clear but that begs the question just who has their hand up his ass and running the show? |
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Post by davo on Nov 1, 2013 14:21:00 GMT -5
Let's make it simple for you: Obstructing vote counting in the 2000 election is hardly 'reaching.' Well, maybe it's a long time ago for folks who believe earth was created a few thousand years ago and humans used to ride dino's. It's a all relative, I suppose. Let's leave your relatives out of this....and your lack of response would indicate that suppression of speech is just hunky-dory with you....as long as the "right" speech is being suppressed. And your lack of a response on the thugs in Florida would indicate that elections can be tampered with by the republithugs who pushed around voting election officials in Broward county. That's hunky-dory with you ... as long as the 'right' folks get intimidated. P.S. To suggest that it's 'ancient history' only makes you look like the weasel-like hypocrite that you are. |
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Post by drjohnnyfever on Nov 1, 2013 15:02:01 GMT -5
Let's leave your relatives out of this....and your lack of response would indicate that suppression of speech is just hunky-dory with you....as long as the "right" speech is being suppressed. And your lack of a response on the thugs in Florida would indicate that elections can be tampered with by the republithugs who pushed around voting election officials in Broward county. That's hunky-dory with you ... as long as the 'right' folks get intimidated. P.S. To suggest that it's 'ancient history' only makes you look like the weasel-like hypocrite that you are. You're response amounts to 'I know you are-but what am I". Keep up the good work....maybe one day you can post like a grown-up-who knows-you may even have an original thought one day. |
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Post by douger on Nov 1, 2013 16:03:55 GMT -5
Let's leave your relatives out of this....and your lack of response would indicate that suppression of speech is just hunky-dory with you....as long as the "right" speech is being suppressed. And your lack of a response on the thugs in Florida would indicate that elections can be tampered with by the republithugs who pushed around voting election officials in Broward county. That's hunky-dory with you ... as long as the 'right' folks get intimidated. P.S. To suggest that it's 'ancient history' only makes you look like the weasel-like hypocrite that you are. You have to go back 13 years to find Republicans behaving badly? Why not deal with your own hypocrisy? You're defending the protesters in the OP by pointing out that Republicans also can be agitated at times. Of course they can. We all can. It's a bit disingenuous to suggest that only leftists are like this. Based on news reports from around the globe, it only seems that way. Is it right for these protesters to stop the speech of someone they disagree with? |
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Post by redleg on Nov 8, 2013 22:43:56 GMT -5
Mr. Obama is dead set on his legacy of health care "reform" despite bungling it. His idea that government should be about giving things to Democratic voters isn't rooted in nihilism but in self-interest. However, the result will be the same. I agree you're not interested in legislating morality. You are interesting in using legislation to act as free adults' parents, however - telling them where they can smoke, what they can eat, what healthcare they have to have. That's hardly better. It's pretty telling that you take a stance that is odds with all the other industralized nations on earth and decide that it's just not fair that all the citizens of the richest nation on earth might be entitled to health care if it means that the well off folks might not get every last, grubbing dollar they have coming. What's more, it's short-sighted, as the CBO predicts that we come quite a bit ahead in the ledger with the ACA. Remember, the ACA care was a Republican idea, orginally. Perhaps if Republicans would work to actually improve it instead of trying to run it to ground, it would improve to the point where it is more like what the Heritage Foundation had in mind at the outset. And it has a lot more to do with capitalism than socialism, if you would bother to educate yourself more thoroughly about it, someplace far, far away from the hysteria of Fox News and others in the right wing bubble. Most of the piddly five percenters who have had their policies rejected are in the highly volatile individual market, where policies are dropped all the time, year in year out well before Obama Care. It's not in an insurance company's interest to inform you that you probably can get get comparable coverage (many times better insurance for less money). They'd much, much rather offer you the higher priced policy when the crappy over-priced loser they were offering loses its standing in the market place. That's what the exchanges are all about: the purest form of capitalism. The Republicans partially fear it because their rich, mostly white buddies in the insurance industry may well suffer from a system that allows for true competition. God knows, our ever-rising health care costs could benefit from it, and so, too, the nation. Also, it would be no small thing for the poor to stop using the ER's as their healthcare of first resort, which of course gets passed along to everyone else. If it works as it's supposed to, it could be a win win situation: the poor and near poor get their coverage, and we benefit from an improved economy and lower healthcare costs. You mean all those "industrialized nations" that we have been bailing out for the last 120 years or so? The ones that would now be either NAZI, or just dust in the wind if we hadn't spent our blood and treasure to save them from their creations? The "5 percenters" are the ones that have paid for their insurance, and then been told by the government, that their plans are "substandard". Since government has controlled insurance for at least 40 years, then it's government that's substandard. Especially when the only thing that makes the policies "substandard" is that they don't subsidize all the gimmes that The Puppet has decided that the serfs should have, and the workers should pay for. If the poor and near poor want coverage, there is Medicaid. Has been for decades. They all have had medical care. So, what is the real purpose for the disaster of Puppettax? |
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Post by redleg on Nov 8, 2013 22:46:14 GMT -5
I don't see the right wing disrupting and shutting down speakers when they disagree-that's the purview of the left.....it's also curious that you don't disapprove of those actions. No, how about when those Brooks Brothers-wearing thugs showed up in Broward County in 2000 to muscle people around as they were attempting to recount votes in Florida, for an example right off the top of my head? That was pretty phucking disruptive, not to mention the town halls were right wingers were screaming at their Representatives about the 'death panels' that never were? The list goes on, pal. So, you find one example of alleged "Right Wing" protesters. How do we know they weren't just union thugs dressed up as real people? An what about OWS? Or the protesters at the G20 meetings in Seattle? Or the plants at Tea Party rallies? Or the union thugs in Wisconsin that tried to destroy their capitol? |
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