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Post by kashmir on Apr 11, 2014 7:53:10 GMT -5
Facts to you is like Kryptonite to Superman.
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Post by howarewegoingtopay on Apr 11, 2014 8:04:36 GMT -5
Facts to you is like Kryptonite to Superman. How would you know? When have you ever posted any facts with proof to back them up. But I don't expect facts on this forum, peoples opinions backed up by their reasoning is good enough. When have you ever done that? You do contribute to the forum, but I wonder if you are a true leftie, or a sock puppet from a rightie who just wants to stir the pot. Time will tell.
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Post by kashmir on Apr 11, 2014 8:08:22 GMT -5
Facts to you is like Kryptonite to Superman. How would you know? When have you ever posted any facts with proof to back them up. But I don't expect facts on this forum, peoples opinions backed up by their reasoning is good enough. When have you ever done that? You do contribute to the forum, but I wonder if you are a true leftie, or a sock puppet from a rightie who just wants to stir the pot. Time will tell. I bet I have more links than you do. Care to count?
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Post by howarewegoingtopay on Apr 11, 2014 8:19:19 GMT -5
How would you know? When have you ever posted any facts with proof to back them up. But I don't expect facts on this forum, peoples opinions backed up by their reasoning is good enough. When have you ever done that? You do contribute to the forum, but I wonder if you are a true leftie, or a sock puppet from a rightie who just wants to stir the pot. Time will tell. I bet I have more links than you do. Care to count? So the mine is bigger argument comes out. What I have noticed is that you post a link, do not quote relevant text from it, and do not post your opinion about it. Links like that do not get clicked. Try engaging for a change. Snark gets old real fast.
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Post by kashmir on Apr 11, 2014 8:25:58 GMT -5
I bet I have more links than you do. Care to count? So the mine is bigger argument comes out. What I have noticed is that you post a link, do not quote relevant text from it, and do not post your opinion about it. Links like that do not get clicked. Try engaging for a change. Snark gets old real fast. Wanna try that first sentence again? Aww you caught me. I post links that do not support my stance or debunk yours. Engage, like you engage on here? It would easier to just leave Fox News on all day long, but the cats would complain, even they know the channel sucks. If you say that snark gets old real fast how is it that this forum is still standing? If it wasn't for the snark there wouldn't be any posting at all.
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Post by redleg on Apr 11, 2014 9:40:39 GMT -5
I can't understand it either, largely because women typically do make as much.
Yes, women do earn the much-ballyhooed $0.77 to every dollar men make, but only (emphasis on the word only) if a comparison is made between the median incomes of the two sexes. However, this does not hold true when comparing men and women holding the exact same job title in the exact same field. (And just to cover our bases here, yes, General Motors CEO Mary Barra makes less than her predecessor, as I believe HuffPo rather, well, huffily reported. What they neglected to reveal however, is that Ms. Barra is being paid only as the CEO, while the man she succeeded, Dan Akerson, served in the dual roles of CEO and Chairman.)
According to the Department of Labor, men also average 8.75 hours per day on the job, whereas women average just over eight. Why the longer hours? Well, men tend to work in fields such as construction, manufacturing and trucking, vocations that typically require more than just an eight-hour day. These are also jobs which tend to get hit hardest by recession, which helps explain why unemployment rates are typically higher among men than women. (Funny, but I don't hear anyone decrying that "disparity.") There are also many incidences in which women may earn less than men in the aggregate, but only because they scaled back their hours in order to be with the kids. If you were to project their hours out to 40 per week, they'd make as much or more than their spouse.
(Not that raising kids isn't work. As I've told many a stay-at-home mom who was informed she "didn't work," You sure as hell do; the only difference is that no one cuts you a check at the end of the week.)
The truth is, if women could truly be hired at three-quarters of the pay of men for the same job, the workforce would be almost 100 percent female. No employer in their right mind would ever hire a man because it would immediately put them at a competitive disadvantage. Just to be clear, no one is stating that sexism doesn't exist, or that some women don't get treated unfairly, but the idea of hiring ready and willing women to do the same job as a man at a lower wage is inconceivable from both a practical and economic standpoint.
I love the fact that women are going to see the Pubes, yet again fail women. Considering they are the majority of the population, how do you think the majority of them are going to vote? All right, all right, all right. As far as the rest of your ridiculous posting….pffft. No, only the helpless, dingbat Liberal women. Real women are too busy simply living their lives to count on the government to babysit them. That's a Liberal mindset.
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Post by kashmir on Apr 11, 2014 11:10:45 GMT -5
I love the fact that women are going to see the Pubes, yet again fail women. Considering they are the majority of the population, how do you think the majority of them are going to vote? All right, all right, all right. As far as the rest of your ridiculous posting….pffft. No, only the helpless, dingbat Liberal women. Real women are too busy simply living their lives to count on the government to babysit them. That's a Liberal mindset. Put all your thought into that one didn't ya? Hope you didn't hurt anything in posting that gem.
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Post by redleg on Apr 13, 2014 19:51:29 GMT -5
So, kids are only harmed by being told "you can do whatever you want to do, but YOU have to do it"? But they aren't harmed by being told "you are really gay, you really don't like the opposite sex"? I don't believe anyone tells people to be gay or straight. I think that's a realization people arrive at on their own. Sure, there are some religious organizations that try to brainwash gay people into being straight, but I haven't seen much evidence that this works. When you have kids as young as 4 "claiming" they are the "wrong sex", they've been indoctrinated. And children of gay "parents" are far more likely to claim to be gay as those that are raised by straight couples. Which is one of the reasons gays are so anxious to adopt. The more of them they can claim, the more power they get.
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Post by redleg on Apr 13, 2014 19:52:33 GMT -5
So, you don't think homosexuality is a perversion? How do babies get here, then? Why did it carry a death sentence for thousands of years, in hundreds of diverse cultures? Inasmuch as two homosexuals of either gender cannot conceive a child, one would expect evolution to select away this behavior rather quickly. Yet it has not done so. While I admit I have no idea what it might be, there must be some reason it persists. For a long, long time no one understood why sickle-cell trait was common in Africa but nowhere else, and then someone discovered the relationship between the trait and malaria. Which is why it's a perversion, or a deviancy if you prefer.
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Post by redleg on Apr 13, 2014 19:57:06 GMT -5
No, only the helpless, dingbat Liberal women. Real women are too busy simply living their lives to count on the government to babysit them. That's a Liberal mindset. Put all your thought into that one didn't ya? Hope you didn't hurt anything in posting that gem. Nope. For generations, Democrats have treated women as nothing more than chattel, unable to think for themselves, and not even able to get contraceptives unless the government steps in and does it for them. Democrats want higher crime, because they can use it to scare the serfs into surrendering more of our liberties to the Democrats. The Puppet would love to have another Newtown, or Aurora, because he can use it as propaganda for more "gun" control. Nothing that would stop the actions, just more removal of liberty. Democrats love dirty air and dirty water, because that gives them more power to encroach on everyone's lives. The only reason to vote Democrat is if you are a serf, or you intend to become a tyrant.
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Post by Evil Yoda on Apr 14, 2014 18:42:23 GMT -5
Inasmuch as two homosexuals of either gender cannot conceive a child, one would expect evolution to select away this behavior rather quickly. Yet it has not done so. While I admit I have no idea what it might be, there must be some reason it persists. For a long, long time no one understood why sickle-cell trait was common in Africa but nowhere else, and then someone discovered the relationship between the trait and malaria. Which is why it's a perversion, or a deviancy if you prefer. Apparently, evolution disagrees with you. Or it would have selected it away.
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Post by kashmir on Apr 14, 2014 18:49:08 GMT -5
Put all your thought into that one didn't ya? Hope you didn't hurt anything in posting that gem. Nope. For generations, Democrats have treated women as nothing more than chattel, unable to think for themselves, and not even able to get contraceptives unless the government steps in and does it for them. Democrats want higher crime, because they can use it to scare the serfs into surrendering more of our liberties to the Democrats. The Puppet would love to have another Newtown, or Aurora, because he can use it as propaganda for more "gun" control. Nothing that would stop the actions, just more removal of liberty. Democrats love dirty air and dirty water, because that gives them more power to encroach on everyone's lives. The only reason to vote Democrat is if you are a serf, or you intend to become a tyrant. And the only reason to vote Republican is if you are filthy rich, otherwise what the sense?
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Post by howarewegoingtopay on Apr 14, 2014 18:52:57 GMT -5
Which is why it's a perversion, or a deviancy if you prefer. Apparently, evolution disagrees with you. Or it would have selected it away. Maybe it was in the process until we got civilized and overcame the forces of evolution.
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Post by howarewegoingtopay on Apr 14, 2014 18:56:10 GMT -5
Nope. For generations, Democrats have treated women as nothing more than chattel, unable to think for themselves, and not even able to get contraceptives unless the government steps in and does it for them. Democrats want higher crime, because they can use it to scare the serfs into surrendering more of our liberties to the Democrats. The Puppet would love to have another Newtown, or Aurora, because he can use it as propaganda for more "gun" control. Nothing that would stop the actions, just more removal of liberty. Democrats love dirty air and dirty water, because that gives them more power to encroach on everyone's lives. The only reason to vote Democrat is if you are a serf, or you intend to become a tyrant. And the only reason to vote Republican is if you are filthy rich, otherwise what the sense? Well from my perspective I vote for them to get the destructive force of the dems out of office. Of course the GOP was infiltrated long go by lefties (called neocons) and it is.just a choice between a lesser of two evils at his point. Hopefully the new infiltration by the tea party will turn them back to being small government advocates.
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Post by kashmir on Apr 14, 2014 19:16:07 GMT -5
Put all your thought into that one didn't ya? Hope you didn't hurt anything in posting that gem. Nope. For generations, Democrats have treated women as nothing more than chattel, unable to think for themselves, and not even able to get contraceptives unless the government steps in and does it for them. Democrats want higher crime, because they can use it to scare the serfs into surrendering more of our liberties to the Democrats. The Puppet would love to have another Newtown, or Aurora, because he can use it as propaganda for more "gun" control. Nothing that would stop the actions, just more removal of liberty. Democrats love dirty air and dirty water, because that gives them more power to encroach on everyone's lives. The only reason to vote Democrat is if you are a serf, or you intend to become a tyrant. I guess that is what explains the 44% women voting for Romney huh? Excepting that Obama got 55% of the women vote. www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/11/07/gender-gap-2012-election-obama_n_2086004.htmlWomen just don't know what is good for them huh?
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Post by redleg on Apr 14, 2014 22:05:44 GMT -5
Which is why it's a perversion, or a deviancy if you prefer. Apparently, evolution disagrees with you. Or it would have selected it away. Really? How long has cancer been around? Why hasn't the human race evolved a way to combat it? How long have genetic defects been around? Why hasn't the human race evolved them out of existence?
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Post by redleg on Apr 14, 2014 22:07:15 GMT -5
Nope. For generations, Democrats have treated women as nothing more than chattel, unable to think for themselves, and not even able to get contraceptives unless the government steps in and does it for them. Democrats want higher crime, because they can use it to scare the serfs into surrendering more of our liberties to the Democrats. The Puppet would love to have another Newtown, or Aurora, because he can use it as propaganda for more "gun" control. Nothing that would stop the actions, just more removal of liberty. Democrats love dirty air and dirty water, because that gives them more power to encroach on everyone's lives. The only reason to vote Democrat is if you are a serf, or you intend to become a tyrant. And the only reason to vote Republican is if you are filthy rich, otherwise what the sense? Really? Then why are the richest criminals in Congress all Democrats? Are they that much better at stealing and conning bribes?
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Post by redleg on Apr 14, 2014 22:09:18 GMT -5
Nope. For generations, Democrats have treated women as nothing more than chattel, unable to think for themselves, and not even able to get contraceptives unless the government steps in and does it for them. Democrats want higher crime, because they can use it to scare the serfs into surrendering more of our liberties to the Democrats. The Puppet would love to have another Newtown, or Aurora, because he can use it as propaganda for more "gun" control. Nothing that would stop the actions, just more removal of liberty. Democrats love dirty air and dirty water, because that gives them more power to encroach on everyone's lives. The only reason to vote Democrat is if you are a serf, or you intend to become a tyrant. I guess that is what explains the 44% women voting for Romney huh? Excepting that Obama got 55% of the women vote. www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/11/07/gender-gap-2012-election-obama_n_2086004.htmlWomen just don't know what is good for them huh? And the vast majority of those women are on welfare, food stamps, or Meicaid, or all 3, and believed his promises to "take care of them".
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Post by Evil Yoda on Apr 14, 2014 22:09:38 GMT -5
Apparently, evolution disagrees with you. Or it would have selected it away. Really? How long has cancer been around? Why hasn't the human race evolved a way to combat it? How long have genetic defects been around? Why hasn't the human race evolved them out of existence? Many genetic disorders, including a lot of cancers, are still around because they strike after the organism reproduces. Evolution is not going to handle those cases. I hope I need not explain why.
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Post by redleg on Apr 14, 2014 22:11:18 GMT -5
Really? How long has cancer been around? Why hasn't the human race evolved a way to combat it? How long have genetic defects been around? Why hasn't the human race evolved them out of existence? Many genetic disorders, including a lot of cancers, are still around because they strike after the organism reproduces. Evolution is not going to handle those cases. I hope I need not explain why. And homosexuality is a genetic disorder. Or a recessive, which have also been around as long as humans.
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Post by Evil Yoda on Apr 15, 2014 11:34:57 GMT -5
And homosexuality is a genetic disorder. Or a recessive, which have also been around as long as humans. You have, of course, a scientific paper to cite which backs this up? First, it must elaborate on the genetic basis - what genes and polymorphisms of them are involved? Please share with the class, Professor!
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Post by howarewegoingtopay on Apr 15, 2014 11:52:34 GMT -5
And homosexuality is a genetic disorder. Or a recessive, which have also been around as long as humans. You have, of course, a scientific paper to cite which backs this up? First, it must elaborate on the genetic basis - what genes and polymorphisms of them are involved? Please share with the class, Professor! Well it seems to go with the argument that homosexuality isn't a choice, that they are born that way. Would you disagree that it must then be caused by genes?
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Post by kashmir on Apr 15, 2014 12:18:06 GMT -5
Many genetic disorders, including a lot of cancers, are still around because they strike after the organism reproduces. Evolution is not going to handle those cases. I hope I need not explain why. And homosexuality is a genetic disorder. Or a recessive, which have also been around as long as humans. Cuz the bible tells him so.
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Post by Evil Yoda on Apr 15, 2014 16:26:56 GMT -5
You have, of course, a scientific paper to cite which backs this up? First, it must elaborate on the genetic basis - what genes and polymorphisms of them are involved? Please share with the class, Professor! Well it seems to go with the argument that homosexuality isn't a choice, that they are born that way. Would you disagree that it must then be caused by genes? I don't know what causes it. And neither does redleg. If anyone does know they are keeping it a secret.
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Post by howarewegoingtopay on Apr 15, 2014 16:33:46 GMT -5
Well it seems to go with the argument that homosexuality isn't a choice, that they are born that way. Would you disagree that it must then be caused by genes? I don't know what causes it. And neither does redleg. If anyone does know they are keeping it a secret. Of course we don't know what is the cause, the two main theories are environment, or genes, nature vs nurture. If you choose nature which most of the gays and lefties seem to prefer then genes would be the cause, if you choose the predominantly rightie slant then it is a choice and that would be nurture. Since Redleg was leaning on the born that way theory (big surprise that), then I would argue that he was correct in his genes guess, and the evolution theory that you were asking why it hadn't been taken out of the gene pool. Do you see how I am interpreting this thread conversation? So in evolutionary terms it might not have had time to be weeded out before civilization has put a stop to evolutionary forces which kept gays from breeding. Of course it wouldn't have stopped all gays because there are plenty of gays who have trod both sides of the fence, and have had natural kids which could pass on that gene. I am not taking a side, and will argue either side, pick one and we can continue the discussion.
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