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Post by kashmir on Jul 26, 2014 13:01:11 GMT -5
Republican Voters Want To Impeach The President. Good Luck With That.Former Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin (R) and other Republicans calling for the impeachment of President Barack Obama might want to take a look at the history books and the U.S. Constitution before getting too excited about the idea. Congress rarely uses its power to impeach, and when it has, impeachment has only infrequently -- and in the case of a president, never -- resulted in removal from office. Congress has initiated impeachment proceedings more than 60 times in the history of the United States. Just 19 of those cases have been tried by the Senate, and only eight federal judges have ever been convicted and removed from office. Although House Speaker John Boehner (R-Ohio) has maintained he is not interested in pursuing impeachment, a top White House aide said Friday that he expected House Republicans to do just that. And a recent HuffPost/YouGov poll shows that one-third of Americans and two-thirds of Republicans believe Obama should be impeached. These numbers reflect an increasingly popular view in conservative circles, which Palin gave voice to earlier this month when she claimed the recent surge of undocumented immigrants at the border was an example of the president's "rewarding of lawlessness." But Republicans have already cited a number of reasons they're hesitant to file articles of impeachment against the president, including impracticality and potential political consequences in November. Perhaps most importantly, however, both history and the language of the Constitution suggest they'd fail if they tried. www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/07/26/obama-impeachment_n_5621696.htmlLets wait for the righties to downplay Palin, when everyone knows she was a speaker for the 2014 Republican Leadership Conference, 2014 CPAC speaker. The half term Alaskan Governor is calling for Obama's impeachment. You betcha!!!!!
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Post by vosa on Jul 26, 2014 13:12:02 GMT -5
Could happen if the (R)s retain control of the House. Obama might even be convicted if the (R)s gain control of the Senate.
But impeachment would not be a good idea.
Making a martyr of Obama, this incompetent, detached individual, is not what needs to happen. He needs to be left alone to quietly finish out his 2nd term while our other leaders start work on the plan to repair all the damage he as done.
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Post by kashmir on Jul 26, 2014 14:26:58 GMT -5
Could happen if the (R)s retain control of the House. Obama might even be convicted if the (R)s gain control of the Senate. But impeachment would not be a good idea. Making a martyr of Obama, this incompetent, detached individual, is not what needs to happen. He needs to be left alone to quietly finish out his 2nd term while our other leaders start work on the plan to repair all the damage he as done. Yeah, and it is pretty doubtful it would fly. That would really suck for the Republicans, just like this deal with Boehner with his 'lawsuit'. Remember whats good for the goose is sure going to cook that gander.  |
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Post by howarewegoingtopay on Jul 26, 2014 14:38:45 GMT -5
Could happen if the (R)s retain control of the House. Obama might even be convicted if the (R)s gain control of the Senate. But impeachment would not be a good idea. Making a martyr of Obama, this incompetent, detached individual, is not what needs to happen. He needs to be left alone to quietly finish out his 2nd term while our other leaders start work on the plan to repair all the damage he as done. Yeah, and it is pretty doubtful it would fly. That would really suck for the Republicans, just like this deal with Boehner with his 'lawsuit'. Remember whats good for the goose is sure going to cook that gander. Yes, I am sure you will not be happy when the pubs are in control, and can use these new pen, and phone to do whatever they like. I am sure screaming about impeachment will be done by the dems then, but it will be too late, precedent will have been set by the dems. |
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Post by kashmir on Jul 26, 2014 15:08:10 GMT -5
Yeah, and it is pretty doubtful it would fly. That would really suck for the Republicans, just like this deal with Boehner with his 'lawsuit'. Remember whats good for the goose is sure going to cook that gander. Yes, I am sure you will not be happy when the pubs are in control, and can use these new pen, and phone to do whatever they like. I am sure screaming about impeachment will be done by the dems then, but it will be too late, precedent will have been set by the dems. What are you rambling on about? these new pen? precedent will have been set by the dems? Wanna take another crack at that post? Wow. |
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Post by howarewegoingtopay on Jul 26, 2014 15:29:49 GMT -5
Yes, I am sure you will not be happy when the pubs are in control, and can use these new pen, and phone to do whatever they like. I am sure screaming about impeachment will be done by the dems then, but it will be too late, precedent will have been set by the dems. What are you rambling on about? these new pen? precedent will have been set by the dems? Wanna take another crack at that post? Wow. Amazing that you do not comprehend my post. Wow is really a good word for it. Yes I failed the grammatical form test, but you really can't understand my point? Does anyone else out there not understand what I was getting at? How about adding the word techniques after the words pen and phone. |
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Post by vosa on Jul 26, 2014 15:36:48 GMT -5
Could happen if the (R)s retain control of the House. Obama might even be convicted if the (R)s gain control of the Senate. But impeachment would not be a good idea. Making a martyr of Obama, this incompetent, detached individual, is not what needs to happen. He needs to be left alone to quietly finish out his 2nd term while our other leaders start work on the plan to repair all the damage he as done. Yeah, and it is pretty doubtful it would fly. That would really suck for the Republicans, just like this deal with Boehner with his 'lawsuit'. Remember whats good for the goose is sure going to cook that gander. Yeah, impeachment is a bad idea. Boehner's suit, not so much. It keeps the B&RL's incompetence and disregard for the law in the public's mind while others try to deflect attention away from Obama, who is president with comments about Palin who is not. |
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Post by kashmir on Jul 26, 2014 15:43:42 GMT -5
Yeah, and it is pretty doubtful it would fly. That would really suck for the Republicans, just like this deal with Boehner with his 'lawsuit'. Remember whats good for the goose is sure going to cook that gander. Yeah, impeachment is a bad idea. Boehner's suit, not so much. It keeps the B&RL's incompetence and disregard for the law in the public's mind while others try to deflect attention away from Obama, who is president with comments about Palin who is not. You can attempt the walk back from Palin but the Republicans obviously feel she has something vital to say(LOL), other wise why would she be invited to speak at their major conventions? You know as well as I do, if the Republicans had Obama dead to right for impeachment we would not be having this conversation. The Republicans have been doing a velcro toss and nothing sticks, but there are votes in the low information voters that don't quite understand but they 'know he is corrupt or lying or whatever'. |
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Post by aboutwell on Jul 26, 2014 15:48:56 GMT -5
Could happen if the (R)s retain control of the House. Obama might even be convicted if the (R)s gain control of the Senate. But impeachment would not be a good idea. Making a martyr of Obama, this incompetent, detached individual, is not what needs to happen. He needs to be left alone to quietly finish out his 2nd term while our other leaders start work on the plan to repair all the damage he as done. Bur the Republicans would have to get a 2/3 majority in the Senate... with all those voting to convict (or enough Democrats defecting)... to get a "conviction"... and that ain't gonna happen... |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 26, 2014 15:57:44 GMT -5
Yeah, and it is pretty doubtful it would fly. That would really suck for the Republicans, just like this deal with Boehner with his 'lawsuit'. Remember whats good for the goose is sure going to cook that gander. Yeah, impeachment is a bad idea. Boehner's suit, not so much. It keeps the B&RL's incompetence and disregard for the law in the public's mind while others try to deflect attention away from Obama, who is president with comments about Palin who is not. Impeachment is a bad idea. They'd have to find an actual crime and not just bureaucratic overreach. Which leads to the lawsuit. I'll wager that gets dismissed by the courts saying something along the lines of, "Don't play politics here." The lawsuit is nothing more than a PR stunt and a pretty lame one at that. The best thing to do is just to let Obama sink his own ship. He is doing a pretty good job at that so why distract from it. |
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Post by vosa on Jul 26, 2014 16:01:57 GMT -5
Could happen if the (R)s retain control of the House. Obama might even be convicted if the (R)s gain control of the Senate. But impeachment would not be a good idea. Making a martyr of Obama, this incompetent, detached individual, is not what needs to happen. He needs to be left alone to quietly finish out his 2nd term while our other leaders start work on the plan to repair all the damage he as done. Bur the Republicans would have to get a 2/3 majority in the Senate... with all those voting to convict (or enough Democrats defecting)... to get a "conviction"... and that ain't gonna happen... Perhaps you can make Kashmir understand that. She seems to think that impeachment is an end in and of itself. |
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Post by stevez51 on Jul 26, 2014 16:31:43 GMT -5
No we don't need Biden running the show. Crazy Uncle Joe would start a war when he spouts off ....
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Post by Deleted on Jul 26, 2014 16:35:39 GMT -5
No we don't need Biden running the show. Crazy Uncle Joe would start a war when he spouts off .... Ain't that the truth. |
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Post by howarewegoingtopay on Jul 26, 2014 17:49:11 GMT -5
Yeah, impeachment is a bad idea. Boehner's suit, not so much. It keeps the B&RL's incompetence and disregard for the law in the public's mind while others try to deflect attention away from Obama, who is president with comments about Palin who is not. Impeachment is a bad idea. They'd have to find an actual crime and not just bureaucratic overreach. Which leads to the lawsuit. I'll wager that gets dismissed by the courts saying something along the lines of, "Don't play politics here." The lawsuit is nothing more than a PR stunt and a pretty lame one at that. The best thing to do is just to let Obama sink his own ship. He is doing a pretty good job at that so why distract from it. The problem is we are on board the same ship.  |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 26, 2014 18:29:11 GMT -5
Republican Voters Want To Impeach The President. Good Luck With That.Former Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin (R) and other Republicans calling for the impeachment of President Barack Obama might want to take a look at the history books and the U.S. Constitution before getting too excited about the idea. Congress rarely uses its power to impeach, and when it has, impeachment has only infrequently -- and in the case of a president, never -- resulted in removal from office. Congress has initiated impeachment proceedings more than 60 times in the history of the United States. Just 19 of those cases have been tried by the Senate, and only eight federal judges have ever been convicted and removed from office. Although House Speaker John Boehner (R-Ohio) has maintained he is not interested in pursuing impeachment, a top White House aide said Friday that he expected House Republicans to do just that. And a recent HuffPost/YouGov poll shows that one-third of Americans and two-thirds of Republicans believe Obama should be impeached. These numbers reflect an increasingly popular view in conservative circles, which Palin gave voice to earlier this month when she claimed the recent surge of undocumented immigrants at the border was an example of the president's "rewarding of lawlessness." But Republicans have already cited a number of reasons they're hesitant to file articles of impeachment against the president, including impracticality and potential political consequences in November. Perhaps most importantly, however, both history and the language of the Constitution suggest they'd fail if they tried. www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/07/26/obama-impeachment_n_5621696.htmlLets wait for the righties to downplay Palin, when everyone knows she was a speaker for the 2014 Republican Leadership Conference, 2014 CPAC speaker. The half term Alaskan Governor is calling for Obama's impeachment. You betcha!!!!! Wouldn't you say that one-third of Americans is quite a lot of people? Are you painting them all as crazed right-wingers? If enough voters are in a "fringe" category, maybe it's not such an extreme anymore. Bottom line: An increasing number of people are getting fed up with Obama's performance as president. You can only call out so many outliers before it ultimately becomes the curve. |
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Post by redleg on Jul 26, 2014 19:06:42 GMT -5
Yeah, impeachment is a bad idea. Boehner's suit, not so much. It keeps the B&RL's incompetence and disregard for the law in the public's mind while others try to deflect attention away from Obama, who is president with comments about Palin who is not. You can attempt the walk back from Palin but the Republicans obviously feel she has something vital to say(LOL), other wise why would she be invited to speak at their major conventions? You know as well as I do, if the Republicans had Obama dead to right for impeachment we would not be having this conversation. The Republicans have been doing a velcro toss and nothing sticks, but there are votes in the low information voters that don't quite understand but they 'know he is corrupt or lying or whatever'. Well, let's see. On the one hand, we have Palin, who is no longer a politician, but get's the pantywaste "progressives" in an uproar by simply living. On the other hand, we have The Puppet, who is allegedly the President, playing golf, playing pool, knocking back suds, while the crisis he's created spiral completely out of hand. And we have Plugs Biden, who is busy lying to everyone he can find about the "roaring" economy, the "unbridled" success of Puppettax, and the border crisis that he helped foment. So, who is really doing the damage? |
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Post by redleg on Jul 26, 2014 19:09:00 GMT -5
Yeah, impeachment is a bad idea. Boehner's suit, not so much. It keeps the B&RL's incompetence and disregard for the law in the public's mind while others try to deflect attention away from Obama, who is president with comments about Palin who is not. You can attempt the walk back from Palin but the Republicans obviously feel she has something vital to say(LOL), other wise why would she be invited to speak at their major conventions? You know as well as I do, if the Republicans had Obama dead to right for impeachment we would not be having this conversation. The Republicans have been doing a velcro toss and nothing sticks, but there are votes in the low information voters that don't quite understand but they 'know he is corrupt or lying or whatever'. Nothing "sticks" because we have the LR media, who's only mission in life is to lie and protect Dem criminals, especially The Puppet, and lie about and attack Pub pols. We also have a DOJ that is the most corrupt and incompetent since FDR's. So, why won't things stick? Because he has told the LR media and the DOJ to make sure they don't. After all, he can't finish "fundamentally transforming" the US into Kenya if people know what he's really doing. |
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Post by Ravenchamp on Jul 26, 2014 21:04:42 GMT -5
it should be attempted because by God he sure deserves it
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Post by magnaestback on Jul 26, 2014 22:43:07 GMT -5
Could happen if the (R)s retain control of the House. Obama might even be convicted if the (R)s gain control of the Senate. But impeachment would not be a good idea. Making a martyr of Obama, this incompetent, detached individual, is not what needs to happen. He needs to be left alone to quietly finish out his 2nd term while our other leaders start work on the plan to repair all the damage he as done. Yeah, and it is pretty doubtful it would fly. That would really suck for the Republicans, just like this deal with Boehner with his 'lawsuit'. Remember whats good for the goose is sure going to cook that gander. Yes indeed, Crazy Harry's Nuclear Option comes to mind. Poor Bobo will be officially neutered and Crazy Harry will have that stroke he deserves. |
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Post by kashmir on Jul 26, 2014 22:44:18 GMT -5
You can attempt the walk back from Palin but the Republicans obviously feel she has something vital to say(LOL), other wise why would she be invited to speak at their major conventions? You know as well as I do, if the Republicans had Obama dead to right for impeachment we would not be having this conversation. The Republicans have been doing a velcro toss and nothing sticks, but there are votes in the low information voters that don't quite understand but they 'know he is corrupt or lying or whatever'. Well, let's see. On the one hand, we have Palin, who is no longer a politician, but get's the pantywaste "progressives" in an uproar by simply living. On the other hand, we have The Puppet, who is allegedly the President, playing golf, playing pool, knocking back suds, while the crisis he's created spiral completely out of hand. And we have Plugs Biden, who is busy lying to everyone he can find about the "roaring" economy, the "unbridled" success of Puppettax, and the border crisis that he helped foment. So, who is really doing the damage? Maybe you could give a ring over to the RNC, they might want to hear that news about Palin since is booked for the entire next 4 months....... |
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Post by kashmir on Jul 26, 2014 22:49:50 GMT -5
it should be attempted because by God he sure deserves it Really? Who knew we had a lawyer specializing in Constitutional law in our company. Who knew?! |
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Post by magnaestback on Jul 26, 2014 22:56:11 GMT -5
No we don't need Biden running the show. Crazy Uncle Joe would start a war when he spouts off .... Lyin Jojo is Bobo's insurance policy. Didn't the euro's years ago put the mentally deficient royalty in cages at one time just to show off the King? Well, we would need to do the same thing with that simpleton. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 26, 2014 23:02:58 GMT -5
The House lawsuit against the President might serve as a mechanism to unite fractious Republicans, but an impeachment procedure would likely have the opposite effect. In either case, it would merely be a tribal show of solidarity since impeachment would never make it through the Senate.
Presidents have to have some latitude regarding the interpretation of laws, and I don't have a problem with that. Where I do disagree is that Obama has carried out more than 40 suspensions of laws (ACA employer mandate, deportment procedures, et al). Presidents should not be the sole arbitrators regarding the extent of their executive power.
Before they proceed with anything they'll likely regret (and again, I think the whole "impeachment" threat is nothing more than saber-rattling), they need to ask themselves, Are they fighting Obama merely over executive orders or executive authority? There's a big difference between the two, and the latter represents a much bigger battle. |
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Post by middleoftheroad on Jul 27, 2014 6:16:32 GMT -5
The Democrats would love to see an impeachment. Not only would it distract from the multiple problems the Administration has, it would give them a chance to play the race card and to rally voters who are more disappointed in this President every day.
So long as Republicans can count to 67 Senators, they won't impeach. Of course, the Republicans ability to snatched defeat from the jaws of victory is an oft observed talent.
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Post by redleg on Jul 27, 2014 7:45:14 GMT -5
Well, let's see. On the one hand, we have Palin, who is no longer a politician, but get's the pantywaste "progressives" in an uproar by simply living. On the other hand, we have The Puppet, who is allegedly the President, playing golf, playing pool, knocking back suds, while the crisis he's created spiral completely out of hand. And we have Plugs Biden, who is busy lying to everyone he can find about the "roaring" economy, the "unbridled" success of Puppettax, and the border crisis that he helped foment. So, who is really doing the damage? Maybe you could give a ring over to the RNC, they might want to hear that news about Palin since is booked for the entire next 4 months....... What office is she running for? |
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