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Post by Cuchulain on Sept 5, 2014 19:03:00 GMT -5
So, you have "learned" to ignore criminal behavior as long as they do a good job for you? No wonder you have no problem with The Puppet staying in office, despite his criminal behavior. Of course, he hasn't done a good job at anything except fundraising and playing golf. No, I haven't... criminal behavior should never be ignored... she paid her dues... Perry just wants to add insult to injury... and you're on his side... She paid her dues? How did she do so?
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Post by Ranger John on Sept 5, 2014 20:12:41 GMT -5
No, I haven't... criminal behavior should never be ignored... she paid her dues... Perry just wants to add insult to injury... and you're on his side... She paid her dues? How did she do so? Well, she did do time for the DUI. It's the abuse of power she got off on. You know.... the same charge they're trying to trump up against Perry.
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Post by Ranger John on Sept 5, 2014 20:22:16 GMT -5
What are his double standards? Well you know, redleg believes that if you're a DUI driving, power abusing DA, the Governor ought to cut your funding if he can. Democrats here only think that should apply if you're a Republican, but not if you're a Democrat. The DA, who really did abuse her power is a hero in their world. It's really the same all over the country. They trumped up bogus charges against Scott Walker in Wisconsin much the same way. There was a slightly better case against McDonnell in Virginia (who probably did actually break the law), but if they applied the same standards to Democrats as they did to McDonnell, Obama would also be in jail sharing a cell with Harry Reid and Nancy Pelosi. I'm trying to find a clever/funny way to make these things into "double standards" for Republicans... but the glaring, obvious, reality of the Democrats' double standards on these things is just too stark to pull it off. You know... short of me taking some really powerful hallucinogenics, or joining the Democratic party. Odd how the effects of taking a large dose of LSD seem to be so similar to joining the Democrat party.
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Post by Cuchulain on Sept 5, 2014 20:24:35 GMT -5
She paid her dues? How did she do so? Well, she did do time for the DUI. It's the abuse of power she got off on. You know.... the same charge they're trying to trump up against Perry. She did time, as, being incarcerated? But she's still, apparently, licensed to practice law in Texas, and still holding a position of public trust as District Attorney of Travis County, Texas. Where's the Texas Bar? What discipline, if any, did they impose on her for her flagrant violation of the Rules of Professional Conduct?
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Post by aboutwell on Sept 5, 2014 21:03:23 GMT -5
She paid her dues? How did she do so? Well, she did do time for the DUI. It's the abuse of power she got off on. You know.... the same charge they're trying to trump up against Perry. Thanks for answering at least a part of Cuchulain's question... Her words of "abuse" were from a drunk woman with a 3x legal BAC... (probably told 'em she was gonna kick their asses too)... and Perry was stone sober... I assume...
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Post by aboutwell on Sept 5, 2014 21:06:21 GMT -5
What are his double standards? Well you know, redleg believes that if you're a DUI driving, power abusing DA, the Governor ought to cut your funding if he can. Democrats here only think that should apply if you're a Republican, but not if you're a Democrat. The DA, who really did abuse her power is a hero in their world. It's really the same all over the country. They trumped up bogus charges against Scott Walker in Wisconsin much the same way. There was a slightly better case against McDonnell in Virginia (who probably did actually break the law), but if they applied the same standards to Democrats as they did to McDonnell, Obama would also be in jail sharing a cell with Harry Reid and Nancy Pelosi. I'm trying to find a clever/funny way to make these things into "double standards" for Republicans... but the glaring, obvious, reality of the Democrats' double standards on these things is just too stark to pull it off. You know... short of me taking some really powerful hallucinogenics, or joining the Democratic party. Odd how the effects of taking a large dose of LSD seem to be so similar to joining the Democrat party. You know... sometime I wonder why I waste my time with individuals like you... but then, I have a lot of time and it's fun to read some of the things you guys and gal come up with...
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Post by aboutwell on Sept 5, 2014 21:07:34 GMT -5
Well, she did do time for the DUI. It's the abuse of power she got off on. You know.... the same charge they're trying to trump up against Perry. She did time, as, being incarcerated? But she's still, apparently, licensed to practice law in Texas, and still holding a position of public trust as District Attorney of Travis County, Texas. Where's the Texas Bar? What discipline, if any, did they impose on her for her flagrant violation of the Rules of Professional Conduct? Why don't you call the governor of Texas... and ask him?... wait a minute...........
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Post by Ranger John on Sept 5, 2014 23:11:04 GMT -5
Well, she did do time for the DUI. It's the abuse of power she got off on. You know.... the same charge they're trying to trump up against Perry. She did time, as, being incarcerated? But she's still, apparently, licensed to practice law in Texas, and still holding a position of public trust as District Attorney of Travis County, Texas. Where's the Texas Bar? What discipline, if any, did they impose on her for her flagrant violation of the Rules of Professional Conduct? As I recall, she was in the county lockup for about 6 weeks. I'm guessing the rules committee assumed she'd trump up some charges against them too, like she threatened with the cops that arrested her, and Gov. Perry.
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Post by Ranger John on Sept 5, 2014 23:16:47 GMT -5
Well, she did do time for the DUI. It's the abuse of power she got off on. You know.... the same charge they're trying to trump up against Perry. Thanks for answering at least a part of Cuchulain's question... Her words of "abuse" were from a drunk woman with a 3x legal BAC... (probably told 'em she was gonna kick their asses too)... and Perry was stone sober... I assume... Wow. No democrat is responsible for what they do in your eyes, are they? Sure she was drunk. If she had killed a family while she was out DUI, would she be responsible for that? Or does her responsibility for her actions not apply when she commits an abuse of power? And if so, where's the argument for charging Perry? Maybe she did threaten physical harm to an officer. No one would take that seriously. But now that she has secured a bogus indictment against Perry, people will need to take her seriously every time she threatens to trump up charges against anyone. She now has a record of doing just that.
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Post by aboutwell on Sept 6, 2014 11:04:00 GMT -5
Thanks for answering at least a part of Cuchulain's question... Her words of "abuse" were from a drunk woman with a 3x legal BAC... (probably told 'em she was gonna kick their asses too)... and Perry was stone sober... I assume... Wow. No democrat is responsible for what they do in your eyes, are they? Sure she was drunk. If she had killed a family while she was out DUI, would she be responsible for that? Or does her responsibility for her actions not apply when she commits an abuse of power? And if so, where's the argument for charging Perry? Maybe she did threaten physical harm to an officer. No one would take that seriously. But now that she has secured a bogus indictment against Perry, people will need to take her seriously every time she threatens to trump up charges against anyone. She now has a record of doing just that. Sure, Democrats are just as responsible as Republicans... and had she killed someone, her office would actually have been involved since the DA's office only prosecutes felony cases... I sincerely hope that none of you here think we should prosecute people for what they (only) say when they're 3 sheets in the wind... no charges were ever considered with regard to any of the officers to whom she mouthed off... but none of them withheld millions of $$$ from the people of Texas like Perry did in his pressuring her to resign... fulfilling his threat... (they've likely been drunk before themsleves... and so has Perry)...
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Post by Ranger John on Sept 6, 2014 11:54:51 GMT -5
Wow. No democrat is responsible for what they do in your eyes, are they? Sure she was drunk. If she had killed a family while she was out DUI, would she be responsible for that? Or does her responsibility for her actions not apply when she commits an abuse of power? And if so, where's the argument for charging Perry? Maybe she did threaten physical harm to an officer. No one would take that seriously. But now that she has secured a bogus indictment against Perry, people will need to take her seriously every time she threatens to trump up charges against anyone. She now has a record of doing just that. Sure, Democrats are just as responsible as Republicans... and had she killed someone, her office would actually have been involved since the DA's office only prosecutes felony cases... I sincerely hope that none of you here think we should prosecute people for what they (only) say when they're 3 sheets in the wind... no charges were ever considered with regard to any of the officers to whom she mouthed off... but none of them withheld millions of $$$ from the people of Texas like Perry did in his pressuring her to resign... fulfilling his threat... (they've likely been drunk before themsleves... and so has Perry)... Clearly she threatens people with bogus criminal charges when she is sober too. Again, see the bogus case brought against Perry. In addition Perry NEVER withheld millions of dollars from the people of Texas. This is actually one of the more ludicrous things you've said in this matter. That money was withheld from a corrupt DA office. Whether that money was spent elsewhere or sat in the treasury, it never got withheld from the people.
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Post by aboutwell on Sept 6, 2014 12:50:01 GMT -5
Sure, Democrats are just as responsible as Republicans... and had she killed someone, her office would actually have been involved since the DA's office only prosecutes felony cases... I sincerely hope that none of you here think we should prosecute people for what they (only) say when they're 3 sheets in the wind... no charges were ever considered with regard to any of the officers to whom she mouthed off... but none of them withheld millions of $$$ from the people of Texas like Perry did in his pressuring her to resign... fulfilling his threat... (they've likely been drunk before themsleves... and so has Perry)... Clearly she threatens people with bogus criminal charges when she is sober too. Again, see the bogus case brought against Perry. In addition Perry NEVER withheld millions of dollars from the people of Texas. This is actually one of the more ludicrous things you've said in this matter. That money was withheld from a corrupt DA office. Whether that money was spent elsewhere or sat in the treasury, it never got withheld from the people. The grand jury agreed on the charges against Perry... I'm willing to wait an see how it turns out... and who owns the DA's office in Travis County... Lehmberg?... or the people of Travis County?...
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Post by Ranger John on Sept 6, 2014 12:58:54 GMT -5
Clearly she threatens people with bogus criminal charges when she is sober too. Again, see the bogus case brought against Perry. In addition Perry NEVER withheld millions of dollars from the people of Texas. This is actually one of the more ludicrous things you've said in this matter. That money was withheld from a corrupt DA office. Whether that money was spent elsewhere or sat in the treasury, it never got withheld from the people. The grand jury agreed on the charges against Perry... I'm willing to wait an see how it turns out... and who owns the DA's office in Travis County... Lehmberg?... or the people of Travis County?... The fact that the grand jury agreed speaks only to the willingness of the DAs office to twist the law past the point where it is broken. Arguing who owns the office is just more red herring. If the money sits the the people's treasury, it is not being withheld from them.
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Post by aboutwell on Sept 6, 2014 13:13:10 GMT -5
The grand jury agreed on the charges against Perry... I'm willing to wait an see how it turns out... and who owns the DA's office in Travis County... Lehmberg?... or the people of Travis County?... The fact that the grand jury agreed speaks only to the willingness of the DAs office to twist the law past the point where it is broken. Arguing who owns the office is just more red herring. If the money sits the the people's treasury, it is not being withheld from them. That IS your opinion... and you're entitled to it... And I'm not arguing who owns the DA's office in Austin... that's a known fact... the people do... and if that $$ had not been needed by the people of Travis County, it' shouldn't have been appropriated for them to begin with... if not, was Perry misappropriating Texas's money?...
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Post by Ranger John on Sept 6, 2014 14:14:00 GMT -5
The fact that the grand jury agreed speaks only to the willingness of the DAs office to twist the law past the point where it is broken. Arguing who owns the office is just more red herring. If the money sits the the people's treasury, it is not being withheld from them. That IS your opinion... and you're entitled to it... And I'm not arguing who owns the DA's office in Austin... that's a known fact... the people do... and if that $$ had not been needed by the people of Travis County, it' shouldn't have been appropriated for them to begin with... if not, was Perry misappropriating Texas's money?... The portion of the office that money was to go to was the public corruption unit, which operated state wide. It is not a county unit, and the people of Travis County aren't any more impacted by it than any other county in Texas. And, no. Of course Perry didn't misappropriate it. That would require him to spend it on something. But then you probably already knew that. At least I hope you did. Not knowing that it can't be misappropriated if it hasn't been appropriated at all... I mean that would be really embarrassing.
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Post by Ranger John on Sept 6, 2014 16:10:36 GMT -5
Honestly, this case (combined with the bogus cases against Governor Walker) has the potential to be something of a "Pandora's Box" for the Democrats. I mean if this isn't laughed out of court (as the case against Walker was), we will be witnessing an unprecedented politicization of our court system. Having a political hack DA bring a criminal case against a sitting governor for exercising his duly constituted authority to veto funding is unfathomable to any one who values the rule of law and the fundamental underpinnings of civilization as we know it.
If the Democrats succeed with one of these, I'm sure the Republicans will counter.
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Post by rocketwolf on Sept 7, 2014 6:45:47 GMT -5
"Our" current government is showing that is overly willing to use the courts and IRS against its political "enemies" lately.
If you aren't concerned about that you are too stupid (or political) to believe.
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Post by Ranger John on Sept 7, 2014 8:33:01 GMT -5
"Our" current government is showing that is overly willing to use the courts and IRS against its political "enemies" lately. If you aren't concerned about that you are too stupid (or political) to believe. There's no doubt in my mind that the Democrat party considers it a crime to disagree with them - and a felony at that. Nor is there any doubt in my mind that this administration considers the GOP a bigger threat than ISIS. They've certainly done more to try to stop the GOP than they have ISIS. I mean Obama actually has a strategy to defeat the Republicans.
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Post by aboutwell on Sept 7, 2014 12:50:01 GMT -5
"Our" current government is showing that is overly willing to use the courts and IRS against its political "enemies" lately. If you aren't concerned about that you are too stupid (or political) to believe. There's no doubt in my mind that the Democrat party considers it a crime to disagree with them - and a felony at that. Nor is there any doubt in my mind that this administration considers the GOP a bigger threat than ISIS. They've certainly done more to try to stop the GOP than they have ISIS. I mean Obama actually has a strategy to defeat the Republicans. What mind?...
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Post by Ranger John on Sept 7, 2014 13:19:32 GMT -5
There's no doubt in my mind that the Democrat party considers it a crime to disagree with them - and a felony at that. Nor is there any doubt in my mind that this administration considers the GOP a bigger threat than ISIS. They've certainly done more to try to stop the GOP than they have ISIS. I mean Obama actually has a strategy to defeat the Republicans. What mind?... The one I use to try to make cogent points about the constant failures, ignorance, and outright hate coming from this administration. Care to make a counter point without making it about me? Or are you going to descend into nothing but vapid personal attacks now?
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Post by vosa on Sept 7, 2014 15:43:41 GMT -5
This whole "didn't try to get drunk",abusive talk business is just a straw man.
She was driving drunk. That, in and of itself, should disqualify her from holding public office.
Texas isn't D.C.and Lehmberg isn't Marion Barry.
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Post by aboutwell on Sept 7, 2014 16:38:22 GMT -5
What mind?... The one I use to try to make cogent points about the constant failures, ignorance, and outright hate coming from this administration. Care to make a counter point without making it about me? Or are you going to descend into nothing but vapid personal attacks now? Care to make a real point about the President?... or just continue with your foolish drivel?...
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Post by aboutwell on Sept 7, 2014 16:42:05 GMT -5
This whole "didn't try to get drunk",abusive talk business is just a straw man. She was driving drunk. That, in and of itself, should disqualify her from holding public office. Texas isn't D.C.and Lehmberg isn't Marion Barry. That's exactly what I said... she didn't try to get drunk... she did get drunk... but just getting drunk... even driving while drunk... once... doesn't disqualify an individual... regardless of their poltiical leanings... from holding a job at which they have performed well for many years...
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Post by Ranger John on Sept 7, 2014 16:45:29 GMT -5
The one I use to try to make cogent points about the constant failures, ignorance, and outright hate coming from this administration. Care to make a counter point without making it about me? Or are you going to descend into nothing but vapid personal attacks now? Care to make a real point about the President?... or just continue with your foolish drivel?... So the answer is no. I should have figured. I can't really blame you for refusing to engage in a meaningful way. Neither Obama nor Lehmburg is defensible.
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Post by aboutwell on Sept 7, 2014 17:15:24 GMT -5
Care to make a real point about the President?... or just continue with your foolish drivel?... So the answer is no. I should have figured. I can't really blame you for refusing to engage in a meaningful way. Neither Obama nor Lehmburg is defensible. No... more like just as "I" thought... you were the one who began this line of conversation by making empty allegations of "constant failures, ignorance, and outright hate coming from this administration"... right?... .
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