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Post by Evil Yoda on Sept 7, 2014 17:27:18 GMT -5
Her words of "abuse" were from a drunk woman with a 3x legal BAC... (probably told 'em she was gonna kick their asses too)... Do you think this excuses her behavior, or makes it less of a crime?
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Post by aboutwell on Sept 7, 2014 20:48:55 GMT -5
Her words of "abuse" were from a drunk woman with a 3x legal BAC... (probably told 'em she was gonna kick their asses too)... Do you think this excuses her behavior, or makes it less of a crime? Driving while drunk?... no way... for her mouthing off in a drunken state... very debatable....
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Post by Evil Yoda on Sept 8, 2014 7:09:40 GMT -5
Driving while drunk?... no way... for her mouthing off in a drunken state... very debatable.... Except in her case, because she's a DA, it's not just "mouthing off". It is a professional threat, and abuse of power. Unless someone poured the booze down her throat a la "North by Northwest" she is responsible for everything she does, drunk or sober. If drunk driving isn't okay, why is drunk "threatening under color of authority"? Take off the (D) colored glasses and look at Lehmberg for what she is: unfit for office.
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Post by vosa on Sept 8, 2014 10:58:38 GMT -5
This whole "didn't try to get drunk",abusive talk business is just a straw man. She was driving drunk. That, in and of itself, should disqualify her from holding public office. Texas isn't D.C.and Lehmberg isn't Marion Barry. That's exactly what I said... she didn't try to get drunk... she did get drunk... but just getting drunk... even driving while drunk... once... doesn't disqualify an individual... regardless of their poltiical leanings... from holding a job at which they have performed well for many years... That's your opinion. Are you a member of the Texas bar? Do you have a legal opinion from a Texan who knows Texas law? How much weight do you think your opinion carries in Texas? How much weight do you think your opinion carries here at SSLO?
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Post by aboutwell on Sept 8, 2014 12:24:51 GMT -5
Driving while drunk?... no way... for her mouthing off in a drunken state... very debatable.... Except in her case, because she's a DA, it's not just "mouthing off". It is a professional threat, and abuse of power. Unless someone poured the booze down her throat a la "North by Northwest" she is responsible for everything she does, drunk or sober. If drunk driving isn't okay, why is drunk "threatening under color of authority"? Take off the (D) colored glasses and look at Lehmberg for what she is: unfit for office. Even you know better than that... she's still in office... and will be till the end of her term...
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Post by Evil Yoda on Sept 8, 2014 12:27:44 GMT -5
Except in her case, because she's a DA, it's not just "mouthing off". It is a professional threat, and abuse of power. Unless someone poured the booze down her throat a la "North by Northwest" she is responsible for everything she does, drunk or sober. If drunk driving isn't okay, why is drunk "threatening under color of authority"? Take off the (D) colored glasses and look at Lehmberg for what she is: unfit for office. Even you know better than that... she's still in office... and will be till the end of her term... Still in office does not mean she's fit to hold the office. She's not.
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Post by aboutwell on Sept 8, 2014 12:28:17 GMT -5
That's exactly what I said... she didn't try to get drunk... she did get drunk... but just getting drunk... even driving while drunk... once... doesn't disqualify an individual... regardless of their poltiical leanings... from holding a job at which they have performed well for many years... That's your opinion. Are you a member of the Texas bar? Do you have a legal opinion from a Texan who knows Texas law? How much weight do you think your opinion carries in Texas? How much weight do you think your opinion carries here at SSLO? You mean it's "my" opinion as to whether or not she was drunk... I believe her BAC was something like 3 times over the limit, right?... I'd have to say that's considerably more than just an opinion...
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Post by aboutwell on Sept 8, 2014 12:31:18 GMT -5
Even you know better than that... she's still in office... and will be till the end of her term... Still in office does not mean she's fit to hold the office. She's not. She's doing well at her job... and as a first-time offender, I'd have to say that yes, she's fit to be where she is... And yes, that IS an opinion... but one that I'd go to court on... and likely win...
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Post by Evil Yoda on Sept 8, 2014 13:18:39 GMT -5
She's doing well at her job... and as a first-time offender, I'd have to say that yes, she's fit to be where she is... A drunk is always less qualified than a sober person of similar experience. She should be ashamed that she's still in office. She has no moral center and no sense of personal responsibility. Like many drunks.
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Post by breakingbad on Sept 8, 2014 13:33:45 GMT -5
Driving while drunk?... no way... for her mouthing off in a drunken state... very debatable.... Take off the (D) colored glasses and look at Lehmberg for what she is: unfit for office. I don't think they are removeable...
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Post by vosa on Sept 8, 2014 14:32:47 GMT -5
That's your opinion. Are you a member of the Texas bar? Do you have a legal opinion from a Texan who knows Texas law? How much weight do you think your opinion carries in Texas? How much weight do you think your opinion carries here at SSLO? You mean it's "my" opinion as to whether or not she was drunk... I believe her BAC was something like 3 times over the limit, right?... I'd have to say that's considerably more than just an opinion... Another dodge. Amazing how you can "dummy up" when the occasion suits you. I was referring to your opinion re her continuing to hold office. Wanna try again?
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Post by aboutwell on Sept 8, 2014 16:38:46 GMT -5
She's doing well at her job... and as a first-time offender, I'd have to say that yes, she's fit to be where she is... A drunk is always less qualified than a sober person of similar experience. She should be ashamed that she's still in office. She has no moral center and no sense of personal responsibility. Like many drunks. I haven't seen any evidence that she's a drunk... only that she was drunk... at least once... to the best of my knowledge, she's been sober all her life 'cept that one time... do you have any evidence other than that?...
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Post by aboutwell on Sept 8, 2014 16:41:31 GMT -5
Take off the (D) colored glasses and look at Lehmberg for what she is: unfit for office. I don't think they are removable... What you don't know is that they haven't been put on...
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Post by aboutwell on Sept 8, 2014 16:45:26 GMT -5
You mean it's "my" opinion as to whether or not she was drunk... I believe her BAC was something like 3 times over the limit, right?... I'd have to say that's considerably more than just an opinion... Another dodge. Amazing how you can "dummy up" when the occasion suits you. I was referring to your opinion re her continuing to hold office. Wanna try again? Dodge?... that may be what you intended to say... but it isn't what you did say... then you accuse me of dodging?... nothing to dodge, my friend... And you said the dummy was who?... But my opinion on her continuing to hold office is ... sure she can... she's proving it every day...
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Post by Evil Yoda on Sept 8, 2014 17:47:50 GMT -5
A drunk is always less qualified than a sober person of similar experience. She should be ashamed that she's still in office. She has no moral center and no sense of personal responsibility. Like many drunks. I haven't seen any evidence that she's a drunk... only that she was drunk... at least once... to the best of my knowledge, she's been sober all her life 'cept that one time... do you have any evidence other than that?... Yeah. Like the NFL didn't see any evidence Ray Rice was a serial wife beater. At least they're finally dealing with him as he should be dealt with. When will Texas step up and deal with their criminal boldly?
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Post by Evil Yoda on Sept 8, 2014 17:51:18 GMT -5
What you don't know is that they haven't been put on... All that tells me is that the (D) is built into your vision. You'll excuse anything a (D) does, won't you? Sad.
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Post by rocketwolf on Sept 8, 2014 18:10:45 GMT -5
Is Ray Rice a Dem? We know he is a union member So will he be defended by someone we know?
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Post by aboutwell on Sept 8, 2014 20:41:04 GMT -5
I haven't seen any evidence that she's a drunk... only that she was drunk... at least once... to the best of my knowledge, she's been sober all her life 'cept that one time... do you have any evidence other than that?... Yeah. Like the NFL didn't see any evidence Ray Rice was a serial wife beater. At least they're finally dealing with him as he should be dealt with. When will Texas step up and deal with their criminal boldly? Why didn't you answer my question?... who's playing dodge ball here?... Ray Rice has been getting away with this kind of stuff for years... but he played for the Ravens and was you guy's hero... Ravens can't take the bad publicity from this one... this is the straw that broke the camel's back... Lemhberg only has one incident... unless you know different... let's hear it... And I'm not so sure Rice is a "serial wife beater"... the woman in the video was not his wife...
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Post by aboutwell on Sept 8, 2014 20:42:07 GMT -5
What you don't know is that they haven't been put on... All that tells me is that the (D) is built into your vision. You'll excuse anything a (D) does, won't you? Sad. Absolutely not...
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Post by aboutwell on Sept 8, 2014 20:43:00 GMT -5
Is Ray Rice a Dem? We know he is a union member So will he be defended by someone we know? Rocketwolf... wrong again...
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Post by rocketwolf on Sept 8, 2014 22:03:04 GMT -5
Is Ray Rice a Dem? We know he is a union member So will he be defended by someone we know? Rocketwolf... wrong again... But you would get him off if you did.
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Post by aboutwell on Sept 8, 2014 22:38:31 GMT -5
Rocketwolf... wrong again... But you would get him off if you did. I have a great record... but I don't take on just anything... but chances are, you're right here...
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Post by redleg on Sept 9, 2014 7:57:50 GMT -5
Well, she did do time for the DUI. It's the abuse of power she got off on. You know.... the same charge they're trying to trump up against Perry. Thanks for answering at least a part of Cuchulain's question... Her words of "abuse" were from a drunk woman with a 3x legal BAC... (probably told 'em she was gonna kick their asses too)... and Perry was stone sober... I assume... And she's a DA that committed a crime. Actually, a couple of crimes. How lenient do you think the Dems and the LR media would be on a Pub that did what she did? Perry followed the law, which is reason enough for the Dems to attack him, because it caught one of their own.
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Post by redleg on Sept 9, 2014 8:01:20 GMT -5
Wow. No democrat is responsible for what they do in your eyes, are they? Sure she was drunk. If she had killed a family while she was out DUI, would she be responsible for that? Or does her responsibility for her actions not apply when she commits an abuse of power? And if so, where's the argument for charging Perry? Maybe she did threaten physical harm to an officer. No one would take that seriously. But now that she has secured a bogus indictment against Perry, people will need to take her seriously every time she threatens to trump up charges against anyone. She now has a record of doing just that. Sure, Democrats are just as responsible as Republicans... and had she killed someone, her office would actually have been involved since the DA's office only prosecutes felony cases... I sincerely hope that none of you here think we should prosecute people for what they (only) say when they're 3 sheets in the wind... no charges were ever considered with regard to any of the officers to whom she mouthed off... but none of them withheld millions of $$$ from the people of Texas like Perry did in his pressuring her to resign... fulfilling his threat... (they've likely been drunk before themsleves... and so has Perry)... You never answered my previous question. Or if you did, I didn't see it. Why should she be absolved because she is "3 sheets in the wind", but some college kid get's nailed with sexual assault if he's drunk and comes on too hard to some female? And how many civilians would be told "well, you threatened a peace officer, but since you were drunk, we'll ignore it"?
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Post by redleg on Sept 9, 2014 8:06:39 GMT -5
Still in office does not mean she's fit to hold the office. She's not. She's doing well at her job... and as a first-time offender, I'd have to say that yes, she's fit to be where she is... And yes, that IS an opinion... but one that I'd go to court on... and likely win... How do you know she"s "fit to be where she is"? If she did this once, she's done it before.
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