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Post by aboutwell on Aug 18, 2014 11:17:03 GMT -5
It is the corner stone of their racist hate…... I think he meant the lefties who keep bringing it up. So why did it take 2 years before he could fake up a birth certificate? Is it any wonder people doubt what he says when he lies constantly? Redleg says it was 4 years... you and he need to get together... I'll meet you guys around Albuquerque... top of Sandia tram... 2PMMT... tomorrow...
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Post by redleg on Aug 18, 2014 11:18:53 GMT -5
I have no idea where he was born. And that's the problem. When we have a President that doesn't even want his place of birth known, we have a problem. But he does want it known... he said he was born in Hawaii... and produced his birth certificate to back it up... not believing that puts you in that 51%... Something was produced, whether it's really his birth certificate or not is open to question.
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Post by redleg on Aug 18, 2014 11:20:22 GMT -5
No, it was hidden for 4 years, and the one produced has been shown to be problematic. It's childish to ask a President to produce his birth certificate... how many others have been asked for theirs?... he didn't want to play childish games with you folks... then he realized you just weren't going to STFU... personally, I would have told you to kiss my ass... and asked for the next question... How many others have questionable backgrounds, like growing up in Indonesia? Like hiding all of his school records? Like having a father that was a drunken member of a foreign government?
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Post by kashmir on Aug 18, 2014 11:20:31 GMT -5
But he does want it known... he said he was born in Hawaii... and produced his birth certificate to back it up... not believing that puts you in that 51%... Something was produced, whether it's really his birth certificate or not is open to question. Yeah I hear it is only the racist Tea Partiers that still cling to that……………..
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Post by redleg on Aug 18, 2014 11:22:14 GMT -5
At this point, and with Obama, I don't really care. But it has always seemed to me that if you declare your intention to run for any public office, you should be required to produce certain documents to prove your bona fides, and a valid birth cert is certainly one. No drama, no witchhunt, no partisan sniping, just: "Name?" "Hiram Henry Hickenlooper" "Office you are seeking?" "President of the United States" "OK...I need to see your birth certificate, and either a US passport or 2 valid forms of ID" "Here's my birth cert, passport and driver's license" (pause while info is entered into computer) "OK, thanks. You should recieve confirmation of this in 3-5 business days. Contact us immediately if there is any change in your status" "thank you" "NEXT!" And no doubt he did all these things... to those who he needed to provide them to to qualify... personally, "I" don't find a "need to know"... I'm not going to try to second guess every authority approving the qualifications of office candidates... logically, if you did one... you'd need to do all... And don't forget... Jimmy Carter was the first President to be born in a hospital... where were all the others born?... who has a need to know?... Every voter in the US. Since it's a Constitutional requirement to be a "natural born citizen", every candidate should, first and foremost, prove he was born in the US.
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Post by redleg on Aug 18, 2014 11:23:10 GMT -5
Nope, wrong again, but I am cheering you on for a win……... But I can't understand how a person born outside the US doesn't get the same scrutiny that Obama's US birth certificate received. Hmmmmmm…….now what is different about these two individuals……... It would certainly go towards my claim of the Tea Party being big ole racists though…….. He did. And he produced a BC.
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Post by redleg on Aug 18, 2014 11:24:02 GMT -5
Something was produced, whether it's really his birth certificate or not is open to question. Yeah I hear it is only the racist Tea Partiers that still cling to that…………….. You mean those people that still believe in the Constitution, the rule of law, and an open government? IOW, not Democrats and serfs?
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Post by kashmir on Aug 18, 2014 11:28:06 GMT -5
Yeah I hear it is only the racist Tea Partiers that still cling to that…………….. You mean those people that still believe in the Constitution, the rule of law, and an open government? IOW, not Democrats and serfs? I do believe you need to 'understand' the Constitution before you 'believe' in it and you just got called out for your lack of understanding it in relation to separation of church and state. So, it aint looking pretty for you redleg………….
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Post by redleg on Aug 18, 2014 11:30:25 GMT -5
You mean those people that still believe in the Constitution, the rule of law, and an open government? IOW, not Democrats and serfs? I do believe you need to 'understand' the Constitution before you 'believe' in it and you just got called out for your lack of understanding it in relation to separation of church and state. So, it aint looking pretty for you redleg…………. Why? The Puppet doesn't. Holder doesn't. Dingy Harry doesn't. And they swore an oath to uphold something they've never read. No, I wasn't the one that didn't understand the phrase "CONGRESS shall make no law...." Nor am I the one that doesn't know our history, that several states had state religions, for a long time, before "Progressives" started "finding penumbras" and other such nonsense in it.
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Post by aboutwell on Aug 18, 2014 11:34:53 GMT -5
And no doubt he did all these things... to those who he needed to provide them to to qualify... personally, "I" don't find a "need to know"... I'm not going to try to second guess every authority approving the qualifications of office candidates... logically, if you did one... you'd need to do all... And don't forget... Jimmy Carter was the first President to be born in a hospital... where were all the others born?... who has a need to know?... Every voter in the US. Since it's a Constitutional requirement to be a "natural born citizen", every candidate should, first and foremost, prove he was born in the US. Not me... I'll take my Circuit Clerk's word... I'm not gonna try to check everybody's friggin' birth certificate...
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Post by kashmir on Aug 18, 2014 11:35:29 GMT -5
I do believe you need to 'understand' the Constitution before you 'believe' in it and you just got called out for your lack of understanding it in relation to separation of church and state. So, it aint looking pretty for you redleg…………. Why? The Puppet doesn't. Holder doesn't. Dingy Harry doesn't. And they swore an oath to uphold something they've never read. No, I wasn't the one that didn't understand the phrase "CONGRESS shall make no law...." Nor am I the one that doesn't know our history, that several states had state religions, for a long time, before "Progressives" started "finding penumbras" and other such nonsense in it. They by all means impeach…..raise us some MO MONEY!!!!!
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Post by redleg on Aug 18, 2014 11:37:30 GMT -5
Every voter in the US. Since it's a Constitutional requirement to be a "natural born citizen", every candidate should, first and foremost, prove he was born in the US. Not me... I'll take my Circuit Clerk's word... I'm not gonna try to check everybody's friggin' birth certificate... That's serf behavior. If a candidate won't show his BC on the request of someone in authority, he doesn't get to run. It's up to US to make sure that every candidate is a legal one. There are questions as to whether The Puppet is a legal President. Not proof, but questions.
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Post by redleg on Aug 18, 2014 11:38:30 GMT -5
Why? The Puppet doesn't. Holder doesn't. Dingy Harry doesn't. And they swore an oath to uphold something they've never read. No, I wasn't the one that didn't understand the phrase "CONGRESS shall make no law...." Nor am I the one that doesn't know our history, that several states had state religions, for a long time, before "Progressives" started "finding penumbras" and other such nonsense in it. They by all means impeach…..raise us some MO MONEY!!!!! Impeach whom? It's your masters that are talking about impeachment, not the Pubs.
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Post by kashmir on Aug 18, 2014 11:48:00 GMT -5
Not me... I'll take my Circuit Clerk's word... I'm not gonna try to check everybody's friggin' birth certificate... That's serf behavior. If a candidate won't show his BC on the request of someone in authority, he doesn't get to run. It's up to US to make sure that every candidate is a legal one. There are questions as to whether The Puppet is a legal President. Not proof, but questions. MO MONEY!!!!!! MAKE IT RAIN!!!!!!
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Post by aboutwell on Aug 18, 2014 11:52:03 GMT -5
Not me... I'll take my Circuit Clerk's word... I'm not gonna try to check everybody's friggin' birth certificate... That's serf behavior. If a candidate won't show his BC on the request of someone in authority, he doesn't get to run. It's up to US to make sure that every candidate is a legal one. There are questions as to whether The Puppet is a legal President. Not proof, but questions. But he did... he is under no obligation to show you a damn thing, Redleg...
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Post by kashmir on Aug 18, 2014 11:53:01 GMT -5
They by all means impeach…..raise us some MO MONEY!!!!! Impeach whom? It's your masters that are talking about impeachment, not the Pubs. Awww, redleg, come on admit it was the GOP that has been trash talking impeachment since Obama's first term…... The only reason they are not talking it now is they saw how it negatively impacted themselves and raised money for the DNC!!!! MO MONEY!!!! MAkE IT RAIN FOR THE DNC!!!
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Post by aboutwell on Aug 18, 2014 11:53:20 GMT -5
They by all means impeach…..raise us some MO MONEY!!!!! Impeach whom? It's your masters that are talking about impeachment, not the Pubs. It's bringing in tons of campaign $$$... and the Republicans remember how it backfired on them with Clinton... they don't want to touch it now... can't say I blame them...
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Post by howarewegoingtopay on Aug 18, 2014 12:12:34 GMT -5
Nope, wrong again, but I am cheering you on for a win……... But I can't understand how a person born outside the US doesn't get the same scrutiny that Obama's US birth certificate received. Hmmmmmm…….now what is different about these two individuals……... It would certainly go towards my claim of the Tea Party being big ole racists though…….. You can't understand why? Well let me explain, when someone produces a birth certificate that shows they were born out of the country then there is no more need for scrutiny, on the other hand when someone refuses to release their long form birth certificate for 2 years, and when it is finally released it is a computer edited version of the long form not a direct photograph, well that does need more scrutiny. Glad to help.
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Post by kashmir on Aug 18, 2014 12:21:51 GMT -5
Nope, wrong again, but I am cheering you on for a win……... But I can't understand how a person born outside the US doesn't get the same scrutiny that Obama's US birth certificate received. Hmmmmmm…….now what is different about these two individuals……... It would certainly go towards my claim of the Tea Party being big ole racists though…….. You can't understand why? Well let me explain, when someone produces a birth certificate that shows they were born out of the country then there is no more need for scrutiny, on the other hand when someone refuses to release their long form birth certificate for 2 years, and when it is finally released it is a computer edited version of the long form not a direct photograph, well that does need more scrutiny. Glad to help. That was no help, but it did suffice for ridiculous Tea Party babbling. Obama owed you nothing. You were not entitled to one little peek at his birth certificate. He obviously did show it to those who it mattered.
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Post by howarewegoingtopay on Aug 18, 2014 12:25:44 GMT -5
You can't understand why? Well let me explain, when someone produces a birth certificate that shows they were born out of the country then there is no more need for scrutiny, on the other hand when someone refuses to release their long form birth certificate for 2 years, and when it is finally released it is a computer edited version of the long form not a direct photograph, well that does need more scrutiny. Glad to help. That was no help, but it did suffice for ridiculous Tea Party babbling. Obama owed you nothing. You were not entitled to one little peek at his birth certificate. He obviously did show it to those who it mattered. Somehow I doubt he showed it to anyone who mattered. Those who will defend his every bowel movement do not need proof.
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Post by Moses on Aug 18, 2014 13:01:44 GMT -5
That was no help, but it did suffice for ridiculous Tea Party babbling. Obama owed you nothing. You were not entitled to one little peek at his birth certificate. He obviously did show it to those who it mattered. Somehow I doubt he showed it to anyone who mattered. Those who will defend his every bowel movement do not need proof. What a frighteningly intellectually dishonest post.
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Post by winston on Aug 18, 2014 13:03:49 GMT -5
No doubt that Redleg is in that 51%... LOLROTF You got that right. Ican't believe he said"it is the left that keeps bringing it up" LOLROTF
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Post by winston on Aug 18, 2014 13:09:56 GMT -5
That was no help, but it did suffice for ridiculous Tea Party babbling. Obama owed you nothing. You were not entitled to one little peek at his birth certificate. He obviously did show it to those who it mattered. Somehow I doubt he showed it to anyone who mattered. Those who will defend his every bowel movement do not need proof. You and redleg are the bomb You are so full of it, maybe you are in direr of the mention bowel movement.
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Post by Moses on Aug 18, 2014 13:13:22 GMT -5
Somehow I doubt he showed it to anyone who mattered. Those who will defend his every bowel movement do not need proof. You and redleg are the bomb It's the most cuttingingest edge posting ive ever seen in my life.
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Post by vosa on Aug 19, 2014 12:02:38 GMT -5
Nope, wrong again, but I am cheering you on for a win……... But I can't understand how a person born outside the US doesn't get the same scrutiny that Obama's US birth certificate received.Hmmmmmm…….now what is different about these two individuals……... It would certainly go towards my claim of the Tea Party being big ole racists though…….. And who would that be? And are the running for POTUS? And where are the famous links you always brag about?
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