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Post by kashmir on Aug 19, 2014 11:39:06 GMT -5
Do you know where your donations go? Not to candidates, if you give to these five Tea Party organizations. It’s a scenario that has become all too familiar. You’re frustrated with the gridlock in D.C. You’re sickened by the burgeoning national debt. You think the country has gone to “hell in a handbasket” under the current administration and party leadership. And then you get a direct mail piece, or an email, or see an ad on the web that promises change by supporting candidates who embrace your ideals. Hopeful and excited to learn that there are organizations willing to fight for what you think will “fix this country,” you grab your credit card and fire off a donation, confident you have contributed to a worthwhile cause. If only it were so! www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2014/08/19/flushing-money-down-the-tea-party-toilet.html |
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Post by howarewegoingtopay on Aug 19, 2014 11:41:44 GMT -5
Sounds like swapping Democrat, or Republican with Tea Party will make the article exactly the same.
So is this really news?
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Post by Moses on Aug 19, 2014 11:46:52 GMT -5
Sounds like swapping Democrat, or Republican with Tea Party will make the article exactly the same. So is this really news? Man you guys are easy. Thanks for supporting one of my theories about how you guys roll . Quick! Must defend! Dems do it too! And so on and so on No introspection |
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Post by kashmir on Aug 19, 2014 12:28:05 GMT -5
Sounds like swapping Democrat, or Republican with Tea Party will make the article exactly the same. So is this really news? Man you guys are easy. Thanks for supporting one of my theories about how you guys roll . Quick! Must defend! Dems do it too! And so on and so on No introspection Know what I saw in howarewegoingtopay's post? "NUN-UH" LOL |
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Post by rocketwolf on Aug 19, 2014 21:39:51 GMT -5
The fact of the matter is there is no politician that gives a fart in a hurricane about any of us, except to gain power over all of us.
So donating money to them is a fools errand and always will be.
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Post by Moses on Aug 19, 2014 22:48:43 GMT -5
The fact of the matter is there is no politician that gives a fart in a hurricane about any of us, except to gain power over all of us. So donating money to them is a fools errand and always will be.  Real helpful |
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Post by kashmir on Aug 20, 2014 7:18:30 GMT -5
The fact of the matter is there is no politician that gives a fart in a hurricane about any of us, except to gain power over all of us. So donating money to them is a fools errand and always will be. Fact of the matter is you are not addressing the article about the Tea Party.  |
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Post by freddfish on Aug 20, 2014 8:13:53 GMT -5
For someone who has been declaring the Tea Party dead for months, even years, and trying to do the two-step on their grave, poor 'ol kashmir sure spends a lot of time obsessing over them.
I mean, if they are dead, if they are over, if they are irrelevant, if we should stick a fork in them, if they are (big spoiled adolescent sigh) sooooooo 2009...why is she constantly starting new threads and posting like a rat in heat about them?
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Post by kashmir on Aug 20, 2014 8:19:11 GMT -5
For someone who has been declaring the Tea Party dead for months, even years, and trying to do the two-step on their grave, poor 'ol kashmir sure spends a lot of time obsessing over them. I mean, if they are dead, if they are over, if they are irrelevant, if we should stick a fork in them, if they are (big spoiled adolescent sigh) sooooooo 2009...why is she constantly starting new threads and posting like a rat in heat about them? It is fun watching them Cheyne Stoking…………. |
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Post by redleg on Aug 20, 2014 8:36:26 GMT -5
For someone who has been declaring the Tea Party dead for months, even years, and trying to do the two-step on their grave, poor 'ol kashmir sure spends a lot of time obsessing over them. I mean, if they are dead, if they are over, if they are irrelevant, if we should stick a fork in them, if they are (big spoiled adolescent sigh) sooooooo 2009...why is she constantly starting new threads and posting like a rat in heat about them? Propaganda. She has to try to destroy them, since she knows they are the death knell of the entitlement state, if they gain power. And they are. |
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Post by aponderer on Aug 20, 2014 9:16:35 GMT -5
Getting back to addressing the article in the OP... Leave it to the lefties to manufacture a "problem" that doesn't exist. From Wikipedia: [emphasis mine] There is no law that says a PAC has to fund any particular candidate.
It appears to me that the author of the article in the link is the real snake oil salesman... 
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Post by kashmir on Aug 20, 2014 10:06:16 GMT -5
Getting back to addressing the article in the OP... Leave it to the lefties to manufacture a "problem" that doesn't exist. From Wikipedia: [emphasis mine] There is no law that says a PAC has to fund any particular candidate.
It appears to me that the author of the article in the link is the real snake oil salesman...
If you are okay with the money you contribute to going to raising more money and not into, and I quote you "donates those funds to campaign for or against candidates, ballot initiatives, or legislation".
Didn't see anything about 'just to raise more money'…….. From the article: Move America Forward is by no means the only dubious charity out there; and Tea Party Express and their Our Country Deserves Better PAC is not the only political organization that has morphed from being a grassroots advocacy organization in 2009 to a fundraising machine today; others have also lost sight of their real mission, with little or no true regard for their donors. However the fact that they are not alone should make their behavior that much more appalling to donors. While the Tea Party Express is the “worst of the worst,” they are not alone, and these five are still far from the entirety of the “Cannibal Conservative,” “Grifting Wing,” “Scamster,” or “Purity for Profit” organizations. Every donor should know where their money goes (or rather doesn’t go) with these groups, i.e. not toward supporting campaigns or candidates. On the contrary, most donor money is spent on raising more donor money, period.
Yes, it can be argued the country has gone to “hell in a handbasket.” Yes, gridlock frustration and national debt nausea are understandable. But if you truly want to change the direction of the country, then you have to do it legislatively; and before you can legislate, you have to win, and flushing money down the toilet is never a winning move. |
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Post by aponderer on Aug 20, 2014 10:33:54 GMT -5
It takes money to make money (or raise money), no matter which PAC it is. Perhaps the article's author will investigate Progressive/Democratic PACs.  [don't hold your breath...]
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Post by kashmir on Aug 20, 2014 10:39:28 GMT -5
It takes money to make money (or raise money), no matter which PAC it is. Perhaps the article's author will investigate Progressive/Democratic PACs. [don't hold your breath...]
I am guessing you are just shooting from the hip and haven't even glanced at the article…….. |
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Post by aponderer on Aug 20, 2014 12:14:16 GMT -5
It takes money to make money (or raise money), no matter which PAC it is. Perhaps the article's author will investigate Progressive/Democratic PACs. [don't hold your breath...]
I am guessing you are just shooting from the hip and haven't even glanced at the article…….. You guessed wrong. Again... |
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Post by Moses on Aug 20, 2014 12:57:00 GMT -5
It takes money to make money (or raise money), no matter which PAC it is. Perhaps the article's author will investigate Progressive/Democratic PACs. [don't hold your breath...]
I am guessing you are just shooting from the hip and haven't even glanced at the article…….. Don't have to guess. You can tell by his comments. |
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Post by rocketwolf on Aug 20, 2014 15:34:35 GMT -5
The fact of the matter is there is no politician that gives a fart in a hurricane about any of us, except to gain power over all of us. So donating money to them is a fools errand and always will be. Fact of the matter is you are not addressing the article about the Tea Party. Fact of the matter is that if I say no politician I am including the Tea party, I am sorry that reading comprehension is not a strong point for you.
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Post by kashmir on Aug 20, 2014 15:38:35 GMT -5
Fact of the matter is you are not addressing the article about the Tea Party. Fact of the matter is that if I say no politician I am including the Tea party, I am sorry that reading comprehension is not a strong point for you.
Start your own thread if you have the support for it. This is about the Tea Party and their flushing their constituents contributions down the toilet. |
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Post by howarewegoingtopay on Aug 20, 2014 15:50:28 GMT -5
Fact of the matter is that if I say no politician I am including the Tea party, I am sorry that reading comprehension is not a strong point for you.
Start your own thread if you have the support for it. This is about the Tea Party and their flushing their constituents contributions down the toilet. Discussing Flushing Money is about all politicians, live with it.  |
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Post by stevez51 on Aug 20, 2014 15:55:25 GMT -5
Start your own thread if you have the support for it. This is about the Tea Party and their flushing their constituents contributions down the toilet. Discussing Flushing Money is about all politicians, live with it. So where is all that impeachment cash going to ..... |
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Post by rocketwolf on Aug 20, 2014 16:08:27 GMT -5
Fact of the matter is that if I say no politician I am including the Tea party, I am sorry that reading comprehension is not a strong point for you.
Start your own thread if you have the support for it. This is about the Tea Party and their flushing their constituents contributions down the toilet. Fact of the matter is that if I say no politician I am including the Tea party,
And I don't care if you like it or not. (Several emoticons overused just like the OP does)
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Post by kashmir on Aug 20, 2014 16:20:18 GMT -5
Start your own thread if you have the support for it. This is about the Tea Party and their flushing their constituents contributions down the toilet. Fact of the matter is that if I say no politician I am including the Tea party,
And I don't care if you like it or not. (Several emoticons overused just like the OP does)
I know hard to face it when the Tea Party is exposed for what it is. Every time I see that SarahPAC, I have to just SMDH, who would vote for that obscene joke? I bet there are a few on here that would rub her feet, vote for her, send her their hard earned money…... Yippee ki yay!!!! |
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Post by howarewegoingtopay on Aug 20, 2014 16:28:28 GMT -5
Fact of the matter is that if I say no politician I am including the Tea party,
And I don't care if you like it or not. (Several emoticons overused just like the OP does)
I know hard to face it when the Tea Party is exposed for what it is. Every time I see that SarahPAC, I have to just SMDH, who would vote for that obscene joke? I bet there are a few on here that would rub her feet, vote for her, send her their hard earned money…... Yippee ki yay!!!! I am also sure that there are few here who would lick Hillary's feet, and send her their hard earned money as well. |
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Post by kashmir on Aug 20, 2014 16:34:35 GMT -5
I know hard to face it when the Tea Party is exposed for what it is. Every time I see that SarahPAC, I have to just SMDH, who would vote for that obscene joke? I bet there are a few on here that would rub her feet, vote for her, send her their hard earned money…... Yippee ki yay!!!! I am also sure that there are few here who would lick Hillary's feet, and send her their hard earned money as well. Yeah but Hillary actually has a red hot shot at the Presidency in 2016, Sarah Palin has a greater chance of getting to be an unwed mother again……. |
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Post by redleg on Aug 20, 2014 19:41:19 GMT -5
Getting back to addressing the article in the OP... Leave it to the lefties to manufacture a "problem" that doesn't exist. From Wikipedia: [emphasis mine] There is no law that says a PAC has to fund any particular candidate.
It appears to me that the author of the article in the link is the real snake oil salesman...
If you are okay with the money you contribute to going to raising more money and not into, and I quote you "donates those funds to campaign for or against candidates, ballot initiatives, or legislation".
Didn't see anything about 'just to raise more money'…….. From the article: Move America Forward is by no means the only dubious charity out there; and Tea Party Express and their Our Country Deserves Better PAC is not the only political organization that has morphed from being a grassroots advocacy organization in 2009 to a fundraising machine today; others have also lost sight of their real mission, with little or no true regard for their donors. However the fact that they are not alone should make their behavior that much more appalling to donors. While the Tea Party Express is the “worst of the worst,” they are not alone, and these five are still far from the entirety of the “Cannibal Conservative,” “Grifting Wing,” “Scamster,” or “Purity for Profit” organizations. Every donor should know where their money goes (or rather doesn’t go) with these groups, i.e. not toward supporting campaigns or candidates. On the contrary, most donor money is spent on raising more donor money, period.
Yes, it can be argued the country has gone to “hell in a handbasket.” Yes, gridlock frustration and national debt nausea are understandable. But if you truly want to change the direction of the country, then you have to do it legislatively; and before you can legislate, you have to win, and flushing money down the toilet is never a winning move.You mean like all that money Dems donated to the DNC, that went to unions, "green" energy scams, and The Puppet's golf games? |
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