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Nov 26, 2014 17:50:24 GMT -5
Post by Ravenchamp on Nov 26, 2014 17:50:24 GMT -5
we cannot afford more liberal democratic damage to America, and this past Nov 3rd showed just how the nation feels about it.
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Nov 26, 2014 18:20:28 GMT -5
Post by Ranger John on Nov 26, 2014 18:20:28 GMT -5
Why all the name calling?... and I'm not sure Hillary will run either... (especially in 2014)... I hope she doesn't... but if she does, I'll support her as far as she goes... Romney as an opponent?... excellent... I'm sorry, does it bother you when I call Hillary a bitter old white woman? And Obama a loser?
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Nov 26, 2014 18:27:26 GMT -5
Post by aboutwell on Nov 26, 2014 18:27:26 GMT -5
Why all the name calling?... and I'm not sure Hillary will run either... (especially in 2014)... I hope she doesn't... but if she does, I'll support her as far as she goes... Romney as an opponent?... excellent... I'm sorry, does it bother you when I call Hillary a bitter old white woman? And Obama a loser? It bothers me when anybody doesn't show enough respect for themselves by calling other people names... not that I am totally blameless myself... I have too... but right now, I can't remember the last time I did... But at least you claimed you were sorry... we'll see...
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Nov 26, 2014 18:44:12 GMT -5
Post by Ranger John on Nov 26, 2014 18:44:12 GMT -5
I'm sorry, does it bother you when I call Hillary a bitter old white woman? And Obama a loser? It bothers me when anybody doesn't show enough respect for themselves by calling other people names... not that I am totally blameless myself... I have too... but right now, I can't remember the last time I did... But at least you claimed you were sorry... we'll see... Don't make this about me aboutwell. That's liable to get you into trouble. Obama is a loser. He has campaigned on the idea that people who don't agree with him are bitter and cling to guns and religion. His AG has called this a nation of cowards. The man who designed his health care law considers the voters stupid. His is a failed presidency, and he's digging it deeper. Hillary is a bitter old white woman. She's been bitter since she was first lady. That's obvious to anyone who's paid any attention to her at all.
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Nov 26, 2014 19:07:07 GMT -5
Post by aboutwell on Nov 26, 2014 19:07:07 GMT -5
It bothers me when anybody doesn't show enough respect for themselves by calling other people names... not that I am totally blameless myself... I have too... but right now, I can't remember the last time I did... But at least you claimed you were sorry... we'll see... Don't make this about me aboutwell. That's liable to get you into trouble. Obama is a loser. He has campaigned on the idea that people who don't agree with him are bitter and cling to guns and religion. His AG has called this a nation of cowards. The man who designed his health care law considers the voters stupid. His is a failed presidency, and he's digging it deeper. Hillary is a bitter old white woman. She's been bitter since she was first lady. That's obvious to anyone who's paid any attention to her at all. I didn't... you did... now report me again... Many, if not most, of us here can intelligently discuss people here that we don't like... without having to lower ourselves to the lowest common denominator... by having to call them, or each other, names...
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Nov 26, 2014 22:19:04 GMT -5
Post by breakingbad on Nov 26, 2014 22:19:04 GMT -5
Who's getting excited? Poll: Romney leads GOP contenders
By LUCY MCCALMONT 11/26/14 8:03 AM EST Mitt Romney continues to be the top choice of Republicans for 2016, as the party struggles to unite behind other possible contenders, a new poll shows. The former Massachusetts governor and 2012 Republican presidential nominee leads the pack with 19 percent of Republicans voters’ support, according to a Quinnipiac University national poll released Wednesday. Trailing Romney are former Florida Gov. Jeb Bush with 11 percent, New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie and Dr. Ben Carson each with eight percent, and Kentucky Sen. Rand Paul with 6 percent. Other potential candidates failed to gain more than 5 percent. Read more: www.politico.com/story/2014/11/poll-mitt-romney-2016-contenders-113188.html#ixzz3KBMJT6dCThat's what happens when you have a total failure like Obama. People begin to regret the decision they made and realize it would have been much better if they had voted for the other guy.
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Nov 26, 2014 22:41:32 GMT -5
Post by Evil Yoda on Nov 26, 2014 22:41:32 GMT -5
Picking Romney again would be the definition of "circular firing squad". So the GOP will probably do it. The party counts among its leadership a bizarre mix of the stupid and the woefully uneducated.
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Nov 26, 2014 22:42:09 GMT -5
Post by aboutwell on Nov 26, 2014 22:42:09 GMT -5
Who's getting excited? Poll: Romney leads GOP contenders
By LUCY MCCALMONT 11/26/14 8:03 AM EST Mitt Romney continues to be the top choice of Republicans for 2016, as the party struggles to unite behind other possible contenders, a new poll shows. The former Massachusetts governor and 2012 Republican presidential nominee leads the pack with 19 percent of Republicans voters’ support, according to a Quinnipiac University national poll released Wednesday. Trailing Romney are former Florida Gov. Jeb Bush with 11 percent, New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie and Dr. Ben Carson each with eight percent, and Kentucky Sen. Rand Paul with 6 percent. Other potential candidates failed to gain more than 5 percent. Read more: www.politico.com/story/2014/11/poll-mitt-romney-2016-contenders-113188.html#ixzz3KBMJT6dCThat's what happens when you have a total failure like Obama. People begin to regret the decision they made and realize it would have been much better if they had voted for the other guy.Isn't that a poll for GOPers?... I though they all voted for Romney 4 years ago... To what "other guy" are you referring?...
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Nov 26, 2014 23:13:50 GMT -5
Post by Ranger John on Nov 26, 2014 23:13:50 GMT -5
Picking Romney again would be the definition of "circular firing squad". So the GOP will probably do it. The party counts among its leadership a bizarre mix of the stupid and the woefully uneducated. I just don't see that happening. There are too many good opportunities for someone fresh. Even if they went for Romney's VP choice, Paul Ryan is very articulate, and young, and will be an appealing alternative to Hillary. Like I've been saying... the Democrats have been able to create this bizarre caricature of the Republicans being a party of 'bitter old white men.' That will be a tough sell coming from a bitter old white woman like Hillary, unless the GOP runs an old white man again. I have no doubt Romney would have done a much better job than Obama - he was more accomplished and hadn't spent the previous 4 years as President. But in the last election Obamacare was on the ballot, and Romney was the ONLY candidate in the whole damn party who couldn't make a good case against it because he'd already brought it to Massachusetts. All the GOP needs to do is pick someone who hasn't brought socialized medicine to a state, and who has just ONE of the following characteristics: young, female, or not white. ANYONE who can undermine the "bitter old white man" meme - even just a little bit. And there are a bunch of them.
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Nov 27, 2014 12:53:07 GMT -5
Post by aboutwell on Nov 27, 2014 12:53:07 GMT -5
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Nov 27, 2014 13:16:43 GMT -5
Post by Ravenchamp on Nov 27, 2014 13:16:43 GMT -5
How GOP Can Win Swing States in '14, White House in '16 But the real significance of these midterms to the 2016 presidential campaign can be seen in Senate contests in the swing states of Colorado, Iowa, North Carolina, New Hampshire and Virginia. Four of the five went for Obama in the last two presidential elections (North Carolina backed him in 2008 but Mitt Romney edged the president in 2012) and at least three will have to switch for the next occupant of the White House to be a Republican. What is the GOP doing to win these key battleground states this year and what could that mean for 2016? www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2014/10/25/how_gop_can_win_swing_states_in_14_white_house_in_16.html
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Nov 27, 2014 17:47:35 GMT -5
Post by redleg on Nov 27, 2014 17:47:35 GMT -5
all we've had is gridlock with the mix, nothing is getting done. Either side doesn't want to work with what ever czar is on the throne. Gridlock can lead to Executive Orders if it goes on long enough... as it did last week... 17 months?... Please show me the exact Article of the Constitution that allows any President to simply hand down dictates if "gridlock goes on long enough".
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Post by redleg on Nov 27, 2014 17:50:51 GMT -5
I wouldn't call recent executive orders the "best" solutions... May not have been the very best we could have got... Congress and the President could have come up with a plan with which they could both have agreed... they didn't... so he did without them... the outcome of it is yet to be seen... Which is grounds for impeachment. He won't be, worse the luck, but he should be. Nothing at all gives him the authority to do what he did. Since the Pub "leadership' refuses to do anything to stop his dictatorial reign, I'd like to see the states simply refuse to acknowledge his 'Executive Orders', or anything else he has to say. Simply declare him personna non grata, and do what they have to do on their own. Ignore the Feds completely. Stop sending any tax money, accepting any tax money, or following any regs from any Fed agency until he resigns, or his term is over.
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Nov 27, 2014 18:01:32 GMT -5
Post by aboutwell on Nov 27, 2014 18:01:32 GMT -5
Gridlock can lead to Executive Orders if it goes on long enough... as it did last week... 17 months?... Please show me the exact Article of the Constitution that allows any President to simply hand down dictates if "gridlock goes on long enough". I think I'll just leave that up to the courts...
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Nov 27, 2014 18:08:36 GMT -5
Post by aboutwell on Nov 27, 2014 18:08:36 GMT -5
May not have been the very best we could have got... Congress and the President could have come up with a plan with which they could both have agreed... they didn't... so he did without them... the outcome of it is yet to be seen... Which is grounds for impeachment. He won't be, worse the luck, but he should be. Nothing at all gives him the authority to do what he did. Since the Pub "leadership' refuses to do anything to stop his dictatorial reign, I'd like to see the states simply refuse to acknowledge his 'Executive Orders', or anything else he has to say. Simply declare him personna non grata, and do what they have to do on their own. Ignore the Feds completely. Stop sending any tax money, accepting any tax money, or following any regs from any Fed agency until he resigns, or his term is over. Not accepting tax money?... Mississippi would go bankrupt in 6 months... as would several other states... especially here in the South... I think Arizona is refusing to comply... but Sheriff Joe has been rebelling now for years... he's the one who should be jailed...
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Nov 28, 2014 0:31:21 GMT -5
Post by redleg on Nov 28, 2014 0:31:21 GMT -5
Which is grounds for impeachment. He won't be, worse the luck, but he should be. Nothing at all gives him the authority to do what he did. Since the Pub "leadership' refuses to do anything to stop his dictatorial reign, I'd like to see the states simply refuse to acknowledge his 'Executive Orders', or anything else he has to say. Simply declare him personna non grata, and do what they have to do on their own. Ignore the Feds completely. Stop sending any tax money, accepting any tax money, or following any regs from any Fed agency until he resigns, or his term is over. Not accepting tax money?... Mississippi would go bankrupt in 6 months... as would several other states... especially here in the South... I think Arizona is refusing to comply... but Sheriff Joe has been rebelling now for years... he's the one who should be jailed... So what? That's happening under The Puppet anyway, and my way, at least, we still have a country.
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Nov 28, 2014 6:38:07 GMT -5
Post by rentedmule on Nov 28, 2014 6:38:07 GMT -5
Which is grounds for impeachment. He won't be, worse the luck, but he should be. Nothing at all gives him the authority to do what he did. Since the Pub "leadership' refuses to do anything to stop his dictatorial reign, I'd like to see the states simply refuse to acknowledge his 'Executive Orders', or anything else he has to say. Simply declare him personna non grata, and do what they have to do on their own. Ignore the Feds completely. Stop sending any tax money, accepting any tax money, or following any regs from any Fed agency until he resigns, or his term is over. Not accepting tax money?... Mississippi would go bankrupt in 6 months... as would several other states... especially here in the South... I think Arizona is refusing to comply... but Sheriff Joe has been rebelling now for years... he's the one who should be jailed... It's a bitch being dysfunctional and deriving your sustenance on the generosity of others. A skilful welfare state can contrive a complex web where citizens are able to pretend to be independent. To your credit you seem to understand the distinction. Kudos to you, but many of us do not.
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Nov 28, 2014 10:33:28 GMT -5
Post by redleg on Nov 28, 2014 10:33:28 GMT -5
Please show me the exact Article of the Constitution that allows any President to simply hand down dictates if "gridlock goes on long enough". I think I'll just leave that up to the courts... So you don't intend to do any thinking on your own?
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Nov 28, 2014 15:41:43 GMT -5
Post by aboutwell on Nov 28, 2014 15:41:43 GMT -5
Not accepting tax money?... Mississippi would go bankrupt in 6 months... as would several other states... especially here in the South... I think Arizona is refusing to comply... but Sheriff Joe has been rebelling now for years... he's the one who should be jailed... So what? That's happening under The Puppet anyway, and my way, at least, we still have a country. Rest assured, Redleg... this Country isn't going anywhere anytime soon...
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Nov 28, 2014 15:46:45 GMT -5
Post by aboutwell on Nov 28, 2014 15:46:45 GMT -5
Not accepting tax money?... Mississippi would go bankrupt in 6 months... as would several other states... especially here in the South... I think Arizona is refusing to comply... but Sheriff Joe has been rebelling now for years... he's the one who should be jailed... It's a bitch being dysfunctional and deriving your sustenance on the generosity of others. A skilful welfare state can contrive a complex web where citizens are able to pretend to be independent. To your credit you seem to understand the distinction. Kudos to you, but many of us do not. We're not the only state that gets $$$ from the feds... every state is there with their hand out... (which is a big part of our problem)... (our, as in the entire Country)... we just get more back for what we send in, per capita, than any other state...
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Nov 28, 2014 15:48:22 GMT -5
Post by aboutwell on Nov 28, 2014 15:48:22 GMT -5
I think I'll just leave that up to the courts... So you don't intend to do any thinking on your own? No... you?...
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Nov 28, 2014 17:38:41 GMT -5
Post by rentedmule on Nov 28, 2014 17:38:41 GMT -5
It's a bitch being dysfunctional and deriving your sustenance on the generosity of others. A skilful welfare state can contrive a complex web where citizens are able to pretend to be independent. To your credit you seem to understand the distinction. Kudos to you, but many of us do not. We're not the only state that gets $$$ from the feds... every state is there with their hand out... (which is a big part of our problem)... (our, as in the entire Country)... we just get more back for what we send in, per capita, than any other state... Good for you folk in Mississippi.
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Nov 28, 2014 22:02:26 GMT -5
Post by redleg on Nov 28, 2014 22:02:26 GMT -5
So what? That's happening under The Puppet anyway, and my way, at least, we still have a country. Rest assured, Redleg... this Country isn't going anywhere anytime soon... Physically? No. Societally, we are becoming Kenya, or Zimbabwe. The Puppet has created racial, sexual, ideological, and national divisions so deep we may never heal them. We are now nearly $20 trillion in debt, thanks to him and his Merry Marxists, with nothing to show for it but more debt, crumbling infrastructure, failing schools, and a failing power grid. All because The Puppet was too busy giving billions to his Marxist cronies. We may not recover from the damage The Puppet has managed to do to us.
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Nov 28, 2014 22:04:31 GMT -5
Post by redleg on Nov 28, 2014 22:04:31 GMT -5
It's a bitch being dysfunctional and deriving your sustenance on the generosity of others. A skilful welfare state can contrive a complex web where citizens are able to pretend to be independent. To your credit you seem to understand the distinction. Kudos to you, but many of us do not. We're not the only state that gets $$$ from the feds... every state is there with their hand out... (which is a big part of our problem)... (our, as in the entire Country)... we just get more back for what we send in, per capita, than any other state... So they will have to start living within their means for a bit. Why is that bad? Less welfare? Less for food stamps? Maybe some of those on Medicaid having to buy their own insurance? How long would the Feds survive with no tax money coming in? Or even a cut of 20% or so? Especially if the people refused to pay their taxes until The Puppet resigns?
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Nov 28, 2014 22:05:34 GMT -5
Post by redleg on Nov 28, 2014 22:05:34 GMT -5
So you don't intend to do any thinking on your own? No... you?... I already do. Which is why I asked you the question I did. When, exactly, did the courts become the arbiters of what's Constitutional?
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