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Post by Ranger John on Oct 28, 2013 17:34:21 GMT -5
Well, that's just it, isn't it? The failure of HeathCare.gov is actually masking the much larger failure of how much people are going to have to pay for this. Once they can actually get in the site, and buy insurance, the nuisance of a non-functioning website is going to be the least of their problems.
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Oct 28, 2013 17:36:21 GMT -5
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Post by Moses on Oct 28, 2013 17:36:21 GMT -5
No not really. I am not for this necessarily. The prob is once a government program starts it will never end. Even if it's bad. Or unneeded. We can't seem to do much right these days.
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Oct 29, 2013 8:48:46 GMT -5
Post by Deleted on Oct 29, 2013 8:48:46 GMT -5
sourceIf you like your healthcare plan then you can keep it is replacing the best known lie of the check is in the mail.
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Oct 29, 2013 8:49:42 GMT -5
Post by Deleted on Oct 29, 2013 8:49:42 GMT -5
No not really. I am not for this necessarily. The prob is once a government program starts it will never end. Even if it's bad. Or unneeded. We can't seem to do much right these days. Who are 'we'?
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Oct 29, 2013 10:12:47 GMT -5
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Post by Moses on Oct 29, 2013 10:12:47 GMT -5
No not really. I am not for this necessarily. The prob is once a government program starts it will never end. Even if it's bad. Or unneeded. We can't seem to do much right these days. Who are 'we'? No one really.
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Oct 29, 2013 10:58:57 GMT -5
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Oct 29, 2013 12:52:11 GMT -5
Post by douger on Oct 29, 2013 12:52:11 GMT -5
Enjoy a video montage of lies.
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Oct 29, 2013 13:02:01 GMT -5
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Post by Moses on Oct 29, 2013 13:02:01 GMT -5
Kill your tv.
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Oct 29, 2013 13:15:19 GMT -5
Post by douger on Oct 29, 2013 13:15:19 GMT -5
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Oct 29, 2013 13:34:29 GMT -5
Post by douger on Oct 29, 2013 13:34:29 GMT -5
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Oct 29, 2013 14:34:32 GMT -5
Post by Evil Yoda on Oct 29, 2013 14:34:32 GMT -5
It's pretty clear Mr. Obama and his administration are some combination of dishonest and clueless. Obamacare is merely the most obvious example.
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Oct 29, 2013 14:55:46 GMT -5
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Post by Moses on Oct 29, 2013 14:55:46 GMT -5
It's pretty clear Mr. Obama and his administration are some combination of dishonest and clueless. Obamacare is merely the most obvious example. that maybe true but it sure would be nice to see something in the future that would give us optimism is compared to critiquing all time
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Oct 29, 2013 15:02:48 GMT -5
Post by Evil Yoda on Oct 29, 2013 15:02:48 GMT -5
It's pretty clear Mr. Obama and his administration are some combination of dishonest and clueless. Obamacare is merely the most obvious example. that maybe true but it sure would be nice to see something in the future that would give us optimism is compared to critiquing all time <shrugs> I express optimism where it is warranted. The recent, meaning the last decade or so, political landscape in this country has not qualified.
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Oct 29, 2013 15:03:59 GMT -5
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Post by Moses on Oct 29, 2013 15:03:59 GMT -5
that maybe true but it sure would be nice to see something in the future that would give us optimism is compared to critiquing all time <shrugs> I express optimism where it is warranted. The recent, meaning the last decade or so, political landscape in this country has not qualified. Totally agree. It's become a joke. I'd like to think I'm optimistic, tho.
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Oct 29, 2013 15:46:13 GMT -5
Post by douger on Oct 29, 2013 15:46:13 GMT -5
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Oct 29, 2013 16:06:17 GMT -5
Post by Evil Yoda on Oct 29, 2013 16:06:17 GMT -5
"Not only is he losing his current plan, but the alternatives could be much more expensive."
Time for another schadengasm!
"Nothing in this plan will require you or your employer to change the coverage or the doctor you have." - Mr. Obama
Reading between the lines, he was mum on whether insurers would be able to change your plan. Not a lie, but certainly disingenuous.
"I think it's fair to say that nobody is more frustrated by that than I am." - Mr. Obama, on the website problems
I'll bet that's not true, because at the end of the day you don't have to go anywhere near this debacle, and you never, ever will, Mr. Resident (I believe I'll start calling him that, because really he does is live in the White House. He sure doesn't lead from there.)
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Oct 29, 2013 17:09:04 GMT -5
Post by douger on Oct 29, 2013 17:09:04 GMT -5
All of those who didn't see this coming, raise your hands. I guess it was a good thing the system was mostly down. Test question: with 500 million lines of sloppily written code, how many more security holes are there?
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Oct 29, 2013 17:55:50 GMT -5
Post by Evil Yoda on Oct 29, 2013 17:55:50 GMT -5
There are security holes aplenty in 500 million lines of well-written code.
It would be instructive to see if the site is vulnerable to SYN-ACK attacks or other DoS type exploits. I'll bet it is, but at this point its response is so poor no one could tell!
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Oct 29, 2013 18:26:51 GMT -5
Post by Ranger John on Oct 29, 2013 18:26:51 GMT -5
All of those who didn't see this coming, raise your hands. I guess it was a good thing the system was mostly down. Test question: with 500 million lines of sloppily written code, how many more security holes are there? We've got a new nickname for the president - Barack "Unexpectedly" Obama
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Oct 29, 2013 18:32:08 GMT -5
Post by Deleted on Oct 29, 2013 18:32:08 GMT -5
sourceIf you like your healthcare plan then you can keep it is replacing the best known lie of the check is in the mail. He lied.
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Oct 29, 2013 18:35:03 GMT -5
Post by Deleted on Oct 29, 2013 18:35:03 GMT -5
Why? Should we become low information voters?
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Oct 29, 2013 18:35:23 GMT -5
Post by douger on Oct 29, 2013 18:35:23 GMT -5
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Oct 29, 2013 19:08:51 GMT -5
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Post by Moses on Oct 29, 2013 19:08:51 GMT -5
Why? Should we become low information voters? Yes. Of course. Exactly!
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Oct 29, 2013 19:10:57 GMT -5
Post by Deleted on Oct 29, 2013 19:10:57 GMT -5
Now the talking points seem to be that those plans people are losing are illegal due to Obamacara. It was junk insurance. How is it better to go from what you like but government thinks it knows best what you need?
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Oct 29, 2013 19:18:02 GMT -5
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