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Oct 29, 2013 21:29:41 GMT -5
Post by Deleted on Oct 29, 2013 21:29:41 GMT -5
Obama apologize? You have got to be kidding. The HHS Secretary will retire with a nice pension. You and I both know that. Yeah- I was posting what SHOULD happen......may as well wish for world peace and a side of fries while I'm at it......
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Oct 29, 2013 22:08:43 GMT -5
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Post by Moses on Oct 29, 2013 22:08:43 GMT -5
So now Obama needs to apologize according to those tho haven't proven a thing , don't know what the future brings, and have thrown every charge from being a Muslim Kenyan birth certificate cheating socialist to every scandal they can think of.
Face it guys, and mom. You're terrified!!!!!
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Oct 29, 2013 22:10:20 GMT -5
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Post by Moses on Oct 29, 2013 22:10:20 GMT -5
Again I have my own reservations about all this national health care business, me and my wife, who is a nurse and sees a lot of insurance issues, have great conversations about it with an open minds. I doubt anything like that could happen here... .... But you guys need to start winning a few elections or this is what you are reduced to: angry posts on chat room. Pretty ineffective.
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Oct 29, 2013 22:15:46 GMT -5
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Post by Moses on Oct 29, 2013 22:15:46 GMT -5
The website not getting off the ground has no logical connection to the idea obamacare might or might not work. But you knew that right? Given that the website is how you register for it, it's absolutely crucial for the website to properly function for Obamacare to work. CNN was airing an segment while I was at gym-- a fear is that only the unemployed due to severe illness have the patience to clearly get through, and if healthy folks are discouraged by these failures, they won't sign up, causing a "death spiral" where healthy people will not balance out the sick, causing premiums to sky rocket. First impressions are lasting ones. Again there is a point there You guys always are too eager and over play your hand tho. We will see if there is a consistency with the website failures and the actual program itself.
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Oct 30, 2013 7:25:36 GMT -5
Post by Deleted on Oct 30, 2013 7:25:36 GMT -5
So now Obama needs to apologize according to those tho haven't proven a thing , don't know what the future brings, and have thrown every charge from being a Muslim Kenyan birth certificate cheating socialist to every scandal they can think of. Face it guys, and mom. You're terrified!!!!! Yes- economic stagnation and loss of affordable insurance for middle class people is terrifying. To be concerned and frightened of negative consequences is rational. No doubt Republicand and Libertarians do need to win elections- discussing ideas is where that starts.
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Oct 30, 2013 7:36:19 GMT -5
Post by douger on Oct 30, 2013 7:36:19 GMT -5
Again I have my own reservations about all this national health care business, me and my wife, who is a nurse and sees a lot of insurance issues, have great conversations about it with an open minds. I doubt anything like that could happen here... .... But you guys need to start winning a few elections or this is what you are reduced to: angry posts on chat room. Pretty ineffective. Let's see - IF the "tech surge" and slog through 500 million lines of poorly written code and fix what ails the website and the security holes - a lot of IT people think that's a pretty tall order to complete by the end of November, and IF young people can be convinced to buy high priced, high deductible insurance they don't need rather than just pay the fine, and IF people can find a way to pay for the high priced, high deductible, low coverage insurance that they're now forced to carry because they've lost the policies they liked, and IF all of the new Medicaid recipients don't drive the deficit and debt further into the ground, and IF all of this and more doesn't negatively alter about 25% of the economy, Obamacare might work. The above aren't guesses as to what will happen. It's already happening.
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Oct 30, 2013 8:18:42 GMT -5
Post by douger on Oct 30, 2013 8:18:42 GMT -5
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Oct 30, 2013 9:31:58 GMT -5
Post by douger on Oct 30, 2013 9:31:58 GMT -5
Either she's lying or "crashed" means something different in Washington than it does in the real world. I vote "lying."
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Oct 30, 2013 11:00:29 GMT -5
Post by douger on Oct 30, 2013 11:00:29 GMT -5
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Oct 30, 2013 11:18:47 GMT -5
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Post by Moses on Oct 30, 2013 11:18:47 GMT -5
Dougar Your stance isn't surprising and is predictable . I am not learning anything here. I hope for your sake this health care program fails like you say it will. A bunch of anti Obama crazies ranting and raving on a chat room is not very educational at all!
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Oct 30, 2013 11:19:05 GMT -5
Post by douger on Oct 30, 2013 11:19:05 GMT -5
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Oct 30, 2013 11:22:04 GMT -5
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Oct 30, 2013 11:23:02 GMT -5
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Post by Moses on Oct 30, 2013 11:23:02 GMT -5
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Oct 30, 2013 12:24:30 GMT -5
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Oct 30, 2013 12:26:26 GMT -5
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Oct 30, 2013 12:29:25 GMT -5
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Oct 30, 2013 12:31:18 GMT -5
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Post by Moses on Oct 30, 2013 12:31:18 GMT -5
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Oct 30, 2013 12:32:14 GMT -5
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Oct 30, 2013 12:32:54 GMT -5
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Post by Moses on Oct 30, 2013 12:32:54 GMT -5
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Oct 30, 2013 12:34:12 GMT -5
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Post by Moses on Oct 30, 2013 12:34:12 GMT -5
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Oct 30, 2013 12:35:03 GMT -5
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Post by Moses on Oct 30, 2013 12:35:03 GMT -5
I'm positive Dougar will be all over the links I listed because he is truly interested in all sides of this debate. Lol
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Oct 30, 2013 12:45:05 GMT -5
Post by douger on Oct 30, 2013 12:45:05 GMT -5
Impressive! Four people signed up. One of them is getting his premium heavily subsidized by, uh, the taxpayer.
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Oct 30, 2013 12:47:02 GMT -5
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Post by Moses on Oct 30, 2013 12:47:02 GMT -5
Impressive! Four people signed up. One of them is getting his premium heavily subsidized by, uh, the taxpayer. You looked! Thanks Just posted them for balance
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Oct 30, 2013 12:47:29 GMT -5
Post by douger on Oct 30, 2013 12:47:29 GMT -5
Democrats are more likely to support Obamacare? Say it ain't so, jed.
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Oct 30, 2013 12:52:57 GMT -5
Post by douger on Oct 30, 2013 12:52:57 GMT -5
I'm positive Dougar will be all over the links I listed because he is truly interested in all sides of this debate. Lol Only 209 posts to start intentionally misspelling my username? You're slipping, jed.
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