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Post by redleg on Aug 4, 2015 9:04:27 GMT -5
The problem with associating the democrats with the KKK is that it is no longer relevant to most educated voters and makes people sound like a fool. It would be a better use of time to argue current democratic embarrassments such as Obama Care (TM), Hillary Clinton's corruptness and the economic impact of O'Malley's precious "New Americans". Except that, especially under our "first black President", racism against everyone except blacks has skyrocketed, and none of those protesting 'white' America have a clue that all the racism of the past was from Democrats. Nor do they see that the current racism is from the Democrats, from welfare, to food stamps, to 'public housing' to The Puppet's current crusade to force every community to conform to his twisted, racist idea of "inclusion".
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Post by Evil Yoda on Aug 4, 2015 12:02:07 GMT -5
What's funny is that you apparently believe this. You believe a great many things that aren't true. Funny how being a Democrat absolves Byrd of his support of lynchings, Jim Crow, and segregation, but Lott paying a compliment to a 100 year old associate makes him a racist. Nothing really absolves that. But it was decades - since before he entered politics - since Byrd was involved in the KKK. Lott's comments were quite recent.
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Post by aboutwell on Aug 4, 2015 12:51:31 GMT -5
In other words, no, you don't... didn't think so... So, because he was a Democrat, you have no problem with him supporting lynching, segregation, and Jim Crow, but Lott is obviously a virulent racist because he made a comment at a birthday party? Got it. Lynching, being a Democrat pasttime, is fine with you, but Pubs can't even say anything that can, by any stretch, be construed as racist. There is NO evidence that Byrd supported lynching... and Lott wasn't a racist because he made the comment... he made the comment because he was a racist... and there IS a difference...
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Post by aboutwell on Aug 4, 2015 12:54:29 GMT -5
In other words, you were wrong... thank you... Really? Prove it. The Dems shut down any and all investigations into voter fraud, because they don't want folks to see how many elections they "win" through illegals voting, bussing "voters" from poll to poll to vote multiple times, or felons or dead people "voting", also multiple times in many cases. There is no need for me to have to prove to you that "Green Card" holders are limited to voting in local and state elections only... you can read, I think...
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Post by aboutwell on Aug 4, 2015 12:55:16 GMT -5
The compliment didn't make Lott a racist... the fact that he made the comment is a symptom of his racism... But Byrd's support of lynchings doesn't mean anything at all, right? There is NO proof that Byrd himself supported lynchings... period...
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Post by aboutwell on Aug 4, 2015 12:56:28 GMT -5
The problem with associating the democrats with the KKK is that it is no longer relevant to most educated voters and makes people sound like a fool. It would be a better use of time to argue current democratic embarrassments such as Obama Care (TM), Hillary Clinton's corruptness and the economic impact of O'Malley's precious "New Americans". Go for it... others have tried too... unsuccessfully, of course...
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Post by aboutwell on Aug 4, 2015 12:59:24 GMT -5
The problem with associating the democrats with the KKK is that it is no longer relevant to most educated voters and makes people sound like a fool. It would be a better use of time to argue current democratic embarrassments such as Obama Care (TM), Hillary Clinton's corruptness and the economic impact of O'Malley's precious "New Americans". Except that, especially under our "first black President", racism against everyone except blacks has skyrocketed, and none of those protesting 'white' America have a clue that all the racism of the past was from Democrats. Nor do they see that the current racism is from the Democrats, from welfare, to food stamps, to 'public housing' to The Puppet's current crusade to force every community to conform to his twisted, racist idea of "inclusion". It does piss me off that so many Democrats side with people who want to get rid of the Confederate flag...
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Post by aboutwell on Aug 4, 2015 13:01:03 GMT -5
Funny how being a Democrat absolves Byrd of his support of lynchings, Jim Crow, and segregation, but Lott paying a compliment to a 100 year old associate makes him a racist. Nothing really absolves that. But it was decades - since before he entered politics - since Byrd was involved in the KKK. Lott's comments were quite recent. If one is a Democrat, like Byrd, that doesn't matter... but if you're a Republican, like Lott, it's okay...
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Post by Ranger John on Aug 4, 2015 14:38:03 GMT -5
Funny how being a Democrat absolves Byrd of his support of lynchings, Jim Crow, and segregation, but Lott paying a compliment to a 100 year old associate makes him a racist. Nothing really absolves that. But it was decades - since before he entered politics - since Byrd was involved in the KKK. Lott's comments were quite recent. I'm sure the Democrats appreciate that you believe that. And that Byrd's comment about 'white n......' to Tony Snow in 2001 didn't mean that Byrd was still a Klansman at heart. Even though it was far more blatantly racist than anything Lott ever said.
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Post by aboutwell on Aug 4, 2015 14:43:16 GMT -5
Byrd was right on target about "white ni**ers"... based on the characterization that right-wingers have given to ni**ers... it was not a racist comment...
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Post by aboutwell on Aug 4, 2015 14:45:12 GMT -5
Nothing really absolves that. But it was decades - since before he entered politics - since Byrd was involved in the KKK. Lott's comments were quite recent. I'm sure the Democrats appreciate that you believe that. And that Byrd's comment about 'white n......' to Tony Snow in 2001 didn't mean that Byrd was still a Klansman at heart. Even though it was far more blatantly racist than anything Lott ever said.You have never been in a one-on-one in a private setting with Trent Lott, have you?... Trent Lott was my Congressman and Senator... likely you've never even met him...
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Post by redleg on Aug 5, 2015 7:51:27 GMT -5
But Byrd's support of lynchings doesn't mean anything at all, right? There is NO proof that Byrd himself supported lynchings... period... The fact that he was a high ranking member of the organization that performed the lynchings proves it. If he didn't support them, he wouldn't have been a high ranking member.
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Post by redleg on Aug 5, 2015 7:52:45 GMT -5
Really? Prove it. The Dems shut down any and all investigations into voter fraud, because they don't want folks to see how many elections they "win" through illegals voting, bussing "voters" from poll to poll to vote multiple times, or felons or dead people "voting", also multiple times in many cases. There is no need for me to have to prove to you that "Green Card" holders are limited to voting in local and state elections only... you can read, I think... No, they are only "limited" by the law. Since the Dems only obey the laws they like, the GC holders can vote in any elections they want, since the Dems block any investigations into voter fraud.
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Post by redleg on Aug 5, 2015 7:54:53 GMT -5
Nothing really absolves that. But it was decades - since before he entered politics - since Byrd was involved in the KKK. Lott's comments were quite recent. If one is a Democrat, like Byrd, that doesn't matter... but if you're a Republican, like Lott, it's okay... How long was Lott a member of the KKK? How many did he recruit for the KKK? Your "evidence" of his "racism" is that he spoke at a meeting of supposed racists. You have yet to show how a "White Citizens' Council" is racist, but a Congressional Black Caucus, or a National Association for the Advancement of Black People is not.
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Post by redleg on Aug 5, 2015 7:56:18 GMT -5
Funny how being a Democrat absolves Byrd of his support of lynchings, Jim Crow, and segregation, but Lott paying a compliment to a 100 year old associate makes him a racist. Nothing really absolves that. But it was decades - since before he entered politics - since Byrd was involved in the KKK. Lott's comments were quite recent. Lott's comments were a one off, at a birthday party. Byrd supported lynching, segregation and Jim Crow. As far as anyone knows, he still supported them until his death, just not openly.
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Post by redleg on Aug 5, 2015 7:57:48 GMT -5
Byrd was right on target about "white ni**ers"... based on the characterization that right-wingers have given to ni**ers... it was not a racist comment... Of course not. He was a Democrat, and therefore nothing he said or did could possibly ever be racist, even supporting lynchings and segregation.
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Post by redleg on Aug 5, 2015 7:58:40 GMT -5
I'm sure the Democrats appreciate that you believe that. And that Byrd's comment about 'white n......' to Tony Snow in 2001 didn't mean that Byrd was still a Klansman at heart. Even though it was far more blatantly racist than anything Lott ever said.You have never been in a one-on-one in a private setting with Trent Lott, have you?... Trent Lott was my Congressman and Senator... likely you've never even met him... Nope, I never did. But I do know he was never a high ranking member of the KKK.
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Post by Ranger John on Aug 5, 2015 9:15:49 GMT -5
You have never been in a one-on-one in a private setting with Trent Lott, have you?... Trent Lott was my Congressman and Senator... likely you've never even met him... Nope, I never did. But I do know he was never a high ranking member of the KKK. *shrugs* This is aboutwell we're talking about. I doubt he's ever met Lott either. lol
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Post by aboutwell on Aug 5, 2015 10:19:33 GMT -5
If one is a Democrat, like Byrd, that doesn't matter... but if you're a Republican, like Lott, it's okay... How long was Lott a member of the KKK? How many did he recruit for the KKK? Your "evidence" of his "racism" is that he spoke at a meeting of supposed racists. You have yet to show how a "White Citizens' Council" is racist, but a Congressional Black Caucus, or a National Association for the Advancement of Black People is not. Never said Lott was a member of the KKK or recruited KKK members... but I did say that the WCC grew out of the KKK and that I had known Lott for well over 30 years... Proving that someone is a racist is not always easy... even when you have known that person for decades... I can't do it... and neither can you prove that they are not...
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Post by aboutwell on Aug 5, 2015 10:20:46 GMT -5
Nothing really absolves that. But it was decades - since before he entered politics - since Byrd was involved in the KKK. Lott's comments were quite recent. Lott's comments were a one off, at a birthday party. Byrd supported lynching, segregation and Jim Crow. As far as anyone knows, he still supported them until his death, just not openly. And "as far as we know," Lott's comments were just as bad... just not openly...
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Post by aboutwell on Aug 5, 2015 10:22:57 GMT -5
You have never been in a one-on-one in a private setting with Trent Lott, have you?... Trent Lott was my Congressman and Senator... likely you've never even met him... Nope, I never did. But I do know he was never a high ranking member of the KKK. Thank you...
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Post by aboutwell on Aug 5, 2015 10:23:38 GMT -5
Nope, I never did. But I do know he was never a high ranking member of the KKK. *shrugs* This is aboutwell we're talking about. I doubt he's ever met Lott either. lol You are a character, RJ... I have some Dick Cheney advice for you...
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Post by redleg on Aug 5, 2015 19:24:23 GMT -5
How long was Lott a member of the KKK? How many did he recruit for the KKK? Your "evidence" of his "racism" is that he spoke at a meeting of supposed racists. You have yet to show how a "White Citizens' Council" is racist, but a Congressional Black Caucus, or a National Association for the Advancement of Black People is not. Never said Lott was a member of the KKK or recruited KKK members... but I did say that the WCC grew out of the KKK and that I had known Lott for well over 30 years... Proving that someone is a racist is not always easy... even when you have known that person for decades... I can't do it... and neither can you prove that they are not... Of course not. Just because Byrd supported lynching until it became politically expedient not to doesn't make him a racist. He was a Democrat. If he had kicked the chair out from under lots of blacks, he's a Democrat, so that doesn't matter.
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