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Post by Evil Yoda on Mar 22, 2016 13:14:08 GMT -5
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Post by Ravenchamp on Mar 22, 2016 16:32:55 GMT -5
Kraft is an ass. He deserves nothing
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Post by oscar on Mar 26, 2016 6:28:35 GMT -5
Kraft is an ass. He deserves nothing Why? It has be PROVEN that the Pats, Brady did nothing wrong with the footballs. It is PROVEN, the NFL LIED about the air pressures, even purposely deceived a well known reporter so he would go public with the fake air pressures. The fine and draft picks being taken were all done as punishment for something we now know did not occur. He should get them back.
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Post by Ravenchamp on Mar 26, 2016 6:56:12 GMT -5
You believe that, ok
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Post by oscar on Mar 26, 2016 7:20:10 GMT -5
Um, it has been proven, there is nothing to believe except what you chose to believe.
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Post by Ravenchamp on Mar 26, 2016 12:28:36 GMT -5
uh Huh
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Post by Deleted on Mar 27, 2016 0:14:38 GMT -5
The findings contained in the Wells Report, as well as data compiled by Exponent, the firm hired by the NFL to handle its scientific analysis of game balls, have been shredded over and over and from multiple directions. Most of the early information (which seemed to contain damning evidence against the Patriots) came from the NFL itself, which seized control of the narrative from the outset.
The most damning rebuke comes from an MIT professor named Dr. John Leonard (a life-long Eagles fan), who not only blasts Exponents findings, but also explains the flawed methodology that failed to account for how atmospheric pressure impacted the footballs measured at halftime. He essentially closes the book on the argument of tampering, and if there's anyone out there who can dispute his findings, they aren't making themselves available.
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Regardless of the science, however, the Patriots are not getting that draft pick back. Kraft made a deal, and right or wrong, he has to live with it.
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Post by Evil Yoda on Mar 27, 2016 8:35:26 GMT -5
I dislike Kraft, the Patriots, and Brady because of their willingness to cheat, but will admit this is largely apocryphal (except for the known camera incident) - for example, the many teams (~12) that claim they change their data handling procedures when playing the Patriots in Foxboro. The NFL may have blown this incident out of proportion (supposedly, Goodell hears about the Patriots misdeeds on a regular basis from other owners and possibly that is why), but they are not an honorable organization. And having made a deal and then attempting to renege on it is just one more example of Kraft's sleezy moral character. I have read that Exponent is not reliable, in the scientific sense. They appear to be scientists similar to those the tobacco industry employed, whose job was to cast doubt at the work of more objective researchers.
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Post by Evil Yoda on Jul 14, 2016 13:22:54 GMT -5
Brady loses his appeal, and will serve his four game suspension unless the Supreme Court deigns to look at the case. Which it should not; this is a damn sporting event, not something of major importance to the country.
I expect that the NFLPA will put changes to Goodell's disciplinary authority in the table at the next CB sessions. What the court said was that Goodell acted within his contractual powers as the commissioner.
Goodell was trying to send an organization run by and for cheaters a message that it needs to stop. A message what will probably fall on deaf ears.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 14, 2016 23:32:34 GMT -5
Brady loses his appeal, and will serve his four game suspension unless the Supreme Court deigns to look at the case. Which it should not; this is a damn sporting event, not something of major importance to the country. I expect that the NFLPA will put changes to Goodell's disciplinary authority in the table at the next CB sessions. What the court said was that Goodell acted within his contractual powers as the commissioner.Goodell was trying to send an organization run by and for cheaters a message that it needs to stop. A message what will probably fall on deaf ears. Easier said than done. Absolute monarchs like Goodell do not surrender power willingly. And this whole dog and pony show has long ceased being about deflated footballs; it's a referendum on the power of the commissioner. In a way, the players brought this on themselves because they were more concerned with such issues as revenue shares and not having full-contact practices (something the Ravens recently ran afoul of) than in checking the powers of the commissioner. No union in its right mind should ever accept a non-independent arbitrator. Goodell not only won, he got his pound of flesh for past Patriot transgressions. By doing so, he also left no doubt as to who was in charge. Goodell sees himself less as Pete Rozelle and more Judge Landis, an avenging angel not only holding the fort, but inflicting stiff punishment upon the infidels.
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Post by Evil Yoda on Jul 15, 2016 11:00:51 GMT -5
Easier said than done. Absolute monarchs like Goodell do not surrender power willingly. He is wise in this sense: he understands that he only job is to make the owners richer. All he has to do to keep that job is to keep 17 of them happy. More owners dislike Kraft and his rotten organization than like him, evidently, because otherwise nothing would have come of it. Sure, this was about what the Patriots did in the past, and about what they do in the present. It may also be that most of the players figure they'll never run afoul of this. Look at how apathetic people are to the fact that the NSA routinely violates their Fourth Amendment rights with warrantless surveillance. They figure it will never bite them because they're not criminals or terrorists. NFL players may feel the same way. I agree that the union should have required independent arbitration but understand why that wasn't a priority. The MLBPA fought steroid testing, and I never understood why, because I figured most players were honest and would welcome the opportunity to compete fairly against the dishonest players. Then we found out how widespread the problem was. Again, the union was acting in the interests of its majority. Once you realize most of the players are using PEDs, the union's actions make sense. Baseball had to be embarrassed into accepting testing. Goodell not only won, he got his pound of flesh for past Patriot transgressions. By doing so, he also left no doubt as to who was in charge. Goodell sees himself less as Pete Rozelle and more Judge Landis, an avenging angel not only holding the fort, but inflicting stiff punishment upon the infidels. Maybe if Bob Kraft, Bill Belichick and Tom Brady should stop cheating? Nah, I don't expect it to happen, either. I suspect that Kraft is a sociopath or something close, and he has stocked his organization with people who buy into his philosophy, which is that there are no rules.
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Post by r686st on Jul 16, 2016 11:33:04 GMT -5
this is a damn sporting event, not something of major importance to the country. A good description of the NFL in general. Get a life, people!
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Post by Ravenchamp on Jul 18, 2016 10:08:52 GMT -5
Sit down cry baby Brady, what a child
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