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Post by Evil Yoda on Jul 2, 2016 15:06:13 GMT -5
Staggeringly poor judgement on the part of both Bill Clinton and Henrietta Lynch to meet on the tarmac, even if she's telling the truth and all they did was exchange routine pleasantries. A conspiracy theorist would say that Bill delivered Hillary's offer, and Lynch then explained how she would manage the investigation to ensure that Hillary never faces indictment. If Clinton wins and Lynch serves that administration in any capacity, we will know that she was bought. Article |
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Post by redleg on Jul 2, 2016 15:54:51 GMT -5
Or, Waco Billy Boy was either offering a bribe, or threatening Lynch. Or, maybe he was simply "explaining" what would happen if Lynch did indict Grandma. Whatever happened, it was far from a "chance meeting". He flew there specifically to meet her, and waited around for her to land.
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Post by aboutwell on Jul 2, 2016 16:12:00 GMT -5
What you gonna do when their planes are literally 75' apart?... pretend you don't know or see each other?... I don't think so... Bill isn't going to live the rest of his life in fear of "the right"... to hell with them...
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Post by Evil Yoda on Jul 2, 2016 16:22:18 GMT -5
What you gonna do when their planes are literally 75' apart?... pretend you don't know or see each other?... I don't think so... Bill isn't going to live the rest of his life in fear of "the right"... to hell with them... He doesn't have to pretend not to know her. He does have to avoid her, so as to avoid even the appearance of impropriety. Even if absolutely nothing unethical happened, it looks bad. Lynch, in saying she regretted the meeting, came to understand this. Will it substantially affect Hillary's chances? I don't know. I do know it is a fact that Trump can use to keep her on the defensive. And if he can do that well enough for long enough, she loses. This has nothing to do with right/left. It is an ethical issue. Even the appearance of a conflict of interest is a poor idea. You think it's a right/left issue because you think everything is, and because the left doesn't dare complain about it (although a few die hard Sanders supporters actually are, indirectly), which means the only people shining a light on it are on the right, which feeds your perception. And all of that assumes that nothing incorrect happened. Which we don't know, do we? |
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Post by aboutwell on Jul 2, 2016 16:36:22 GMT -5
What you gonna do when their planes are literally 75' apart?... pretend you don't know or see each other?... I don't think so... Bill isn't going to live the rest of his life in fear of "the right"... to hell with them... He doesn't have to pretend not to know her. He does have to avoid her, so as to avoid even the appearance of impropriety. Even if absolutely nothing unethical happened, it looks bad. Lynch, in saying she regretted the meeting, came to understand this. Will it substantially affect Hillary's chances? I don't know. I do know it is a fact that Trump can use to keep her on the defensive. And if he can do that well enough for long enough, she loses. This has nothing to do with right/left. It is an ethical issue. Even the appearance of a conflict of interest is a poor idea. You think it's a right/left issue because you think everything is, and because the left doesn't dare complain about it (although a few die hard Sanders supporters actually are, indirectly), which means the only people shining a light on it are on the right, which feeds your perception. And all of that assumes that nothing incorrect happened. Which we don't know, do we? It only looks bad to those who want it to look bad... and where the Clintons are concerned, that has been the case since the late 80's... after nearly 30 years, and finding nothing on them... other than Clinton's sexcapades... I think it's time to get off their case... but look for it for about 8 more years... at least... unless Chelsea chooses to run for something... |
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Post by Evil Yoda on Jul 2, 2016 16:49:28 GMT -5
It looks bad to those who value ethics. It looks okay to apologists for the Democrats.
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Post by redleg on Jul 2, 2016 16:54:49 GMT -5
What you gonna do when their planes are literally 75' apart?... pretend you don't know or see each other?... I don't think so... Bill isn't going to live the rest of his life in fear of "the right"... to hell with them... First, he hung around until she landed. He waited for her. Second, he's a suspect in an FBI investigation, and a witness in another FBI investigation. He doesn't fear anything unless Trump is elected. Then he might just fear everything, since Trump probably won't be subject to either their threats or their bribery. He might actually enforce the law, and send both of them to prison for the rest of their lives. |
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Post by aboutwell on Jul 2, 2016 17:54:56 GMT -5
What you gonna do when their planes are literally 75' apart?... pretend you don't know or see each other?... I don't think so... Bill isn't going to live the rest of his life in fear of "the right"... to hell with them... First, he hung around until she landed. He waited for her. Second, he's a suspect in an FBI investigation, and a witness in another FBI investigation. He doesn't fear anything unless Trump is elected. Then he might just fear everything, since Trump probably won't be subject to either their threats or their bribery. He might actually enforce the law, and send both of them to prison for the rest of their lives. I don't think so... and you can't back up that claim... and the FBI can investigate anybody... me or you... and may have... doesn't mean anybody is guilty... to think that Trump would put them in prison for the rest of their lives, if elected, is really funny... "An aide for Bill Clinton also backed up Lynch's account, adding that the former president routinely extends greetings to Cabinet secretaries, members of Congress and other dignitaries when he runs across them. The meeting was not prearranged — it happened spontaneously after Clinton and Lynch realized they were both on the same tarmac in Arizona, the aide said."Nothing unusual here... |
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Post by Ranger John on Jul 2, 2016 18:02:05 GMT -5
What you gonna do when their planes are literally 75' apart?... pretend you don't know or see each other?... I don't think so... Bill isn't going to live the rest of his life in fear of "the right"... to hell with them... First, he hung around until she landed. He waited for her. Second, he's a suspect in an FBI investigation, and a witness in another FBI investigation. He doesn't fear anything unless Trump is elected. Then he might just fear everything, since Trump probably won't be subject to either their threats or their bribery. He might actually enforce the law, and send both of them to prison for the rest of their lives. To be perfectly honest, Trump will probably make the Clintons an offer to make it all go away. President Trump could pardon them both, and it's the only way the Clintons make all this vanish without the appearance of additional corruption. |
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Post by aboutwell on Jul 2, 2016 18:21:42 GMT -5
First, he hung around until she landed. He waited for her. Second, he's a suspect in an FBI investigation, and a witness in another FBI investigation. He doesn't fear anything unless Trump is elected. Then he might just fear everything, since Trump probably won't be subject to either their threats or their bribery. He might actually enforce the law, and send both of them to prison for the rest of their lives. To be perfectly honest, Trump will probably make the Clintons an offer to make it all go away. President Trump could pardon them both, and it's the only way the Clintons make all this vanish without the appearance of additional corruption. In all likelihood, there won't be a President Trump... |
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Post by Evil Yoda on Jul 2, 2016 18:49:03 GMT -5
"An aide for Bill Clinton also backed up Lynch's account, adding that the former president routinely extends greetings to Cabinet secretaries, members of Congress and other dignitaries when he runs across them. The meeting was not prearranged — it happened spontaneously after Clinton and Lynch realized they were both on the same tarmac in Arizona, the aide said." You are accepting, uncritically, the word of an individual who is going to say precisely what Bill and Hillary tell him to say, and nothing else. If the Republicans lose the 2016 presidential election they will have only themselves to blame. Almost anyone could beat Hillary, given her baggage. Almost anyone except a man who is possibly a grifter, certainly an incompetent businessman, and a boor. Should this happen, one must hope they will engage in the sort of self-examination they should have already performed following their having handed us the second worst president of the 21st century, and indeed, my long life, George W. Bush. That they failed to engage in such self-examination following Bush was sad enough. That they failed to see it after they couldn't beat a man completely unqualified to hold the office of president at the time he first ran (Obama). Of course, given that the country has survived Obama, it can probably survive Trump and Hillary. I expect that either one of them will be a one and done president. |
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Post by Ranger John on Jul 2, 2016 19:02:57 GMT -5
"An aide for Bill Clinton also backed up Lynch's account, adding that the former president routinely extends greetings to Cabinet secretaries, members of Congress and other dignitaries when he runs across them. The meeting was not prearranged — it happened spontaneously after Clinton and Lynch realized they were both on the same tarmac in Arizona, the aide said." You are accepting, uncritically, the word of an individual who is going to say precisely what Bill and Hillary tell him to say, and nothing else. If the Republicans lose the 2016 presidential election they will have only themselves to blame. Almost anyone could beat Hillary, given her baggage. Almost anyone except a man who is possibly a grifter, certainly an incompetent businessman, and a boor. Should this happen, one must hope they will engage in the sort of self-examination they should have already performed following their having handed us the second worst president of the 21st century, and indeed, my long life, George W. Bush. That they failed to engage in such self-examination following Bush was sad enough. That they failed to see it after they couldn't beat a man completely unqualified to hold the office of president at the time he first ran (Obama). Of course, given that the country has survived Obama, it can probably survive Trump and Hillary. I expect that either one of them will be a one and done president. In some ways Trump is Hillary's best hope. She will almost certainly spend the next 4 years up to her eyeballs in scandal, and accomplish very little other to insure the GOP controls Congress in 2018, even if they lose it this year. A smart person would have vanished from the public eye, and enjoyed her retirement. In other ways, Hillary is the GOP's best hope. She has the ability to prevent the Rrpublicans from having to cope with Trump's stink in 2020. |
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Post by redleg on Jul 2, 2016 19:07:09 GMT -5
First, he hung around until she landed. He waited for her. Second, he's a suspect in an FBI investigation, and a witness in another FBI investigation. He doesn't fear anything unless Trump is elected. Then he might just fear everything, since Trump probably won't be subject to either their threats or their bribery. He might actually enforce the law, and send both of them to prison for the rest of their lives. I don't think so... and you can't back up that claim... and the FBI can investigate anybody... me or you... and may have... doesn't mean anybody is guilty... to think that Trump would put them in prison for the rest of their lives, if elected, is really funny... "An aide for Bill Clinton also backed up Lynch's account, adding that the former president routinely extends greetings to Cabinet secretaries, members of Congress and other dignitaries when he runs across them. The meeting was not prearranged — it happened spontaneously after Clinton and Lynch realized they were both on the same tarmac in Arizona, the aide said."Nothing unusual here... Just the information that's been made public about her emails shows treason. It also shows the sale of influence, and bribery. The only reason she hasn't been indicted is because The Puppet wants to have control over her and Waco Billy Boy, so he won't indict unless she does something he really doesn't like. That, and she is the only thing the Dems have going right now, their only hope of continuing to destroy the country. What one of Waco Billy Boy's aides says is irrelevant. He is a suspect in an ongoing FBI investigation, and a witness in another. He has no business "meeting" with the chief LEO of the nation when she has control over both investigations. |
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Post by redleg on Jul 2, 2016 19:10:50 GMT -5
"An aide for Bill Clinton also backed up Lynch's account, adding that the former president routinely extends greetings to Cabinet secretaries, members of Congress and other dignitaries when he runs across them. The meeting was not prearranged — it happened spontaneously after Clinton and Lynch realized they were both on the same tarmac in Arizona, the aide said." You are accepting, uncritically, the word of an individual who is going to say precisely what Bill and Hillary tell him to say, and nothing else. If the Republicans lose the 2016 presidential election they will have only themselves to blame. Almost anyone could beat Hillary, given her baggage. Almost anyone except a man who is possibly a grifter, certainly an incompetent businessman, and a boor. Should this happen, one must hope they will engage in the sort of self-examination they should have already performed following their having handed us the second worst president of the 21st century, and indeed, my long life, George W. Bush. That they failed to engage in such self-examination following Bush was sad enough. That they failed to see it after they couldn't beat a man completely unqualified to hold the office of president at the time he first ran (Obama). Of course, given that the country has survived Obama, it can probably survive Trump and Hillary. I expect that either one of them will be a one and done president. No, because they are actually Democrats, they just run as Pubs. McConnell, Ryan, McCain, ect have done nothing at all to stop the criminal theft, murders, and ignorance of the law that The Puppet's regime has foisted on us. They are incapable of "self reflection", or any other kind of reflection. The reason they couldn't beat The Puppet is because they didn't really want to beat The Puppet. They ran McCain, a man at least as unqualified to be President as The Puppet, and totally unqualified to run against a criminal as unscrupulous and unethical as any Democrat candidate. |
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Post by redleg on Jul 2, 2016 19:12:56 GMT -5
First, he hung around until she landed. He waited for her. Second, he's a suspect in an FBI investigation, and a witness in another FBI investigation. He doesn't fear anything unless Trump is elected. Then he might just fear everything, since Trump probably won't be subject to either their threats or their bribery. He might actually enforce the law, and send both of them to prison for the rest of their lives. I don't think so... and you can't back up that claim... and the FBI can investigate anybody... me or you... and may have... doesn't mean anybody is guilty... to think that Trump would put them in prison for the rest of their lives, if elected, is really funny... "An aide for Bill Clinton also backed up Lynch's account, adding that the former president routinely extends greetings to Cabinet secretaries, members of Congress and other dignitaries when he runs across them. The meeting was not prearranged — it happened spontaneously after Clinton and Lynch realized they were both on the same tarmac in Arizona, the aide said."Nothing unusual here... Sources tell ABC15 Clinton was notified Lynch would be arriving at the airport soon and waited for her arrival. |
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Post by Evil Yoda on Jul 2, 2016 19:31:43 GMT -5
The reason they couldn't beat The Puppet is because they didn't really want to beat The Puppet. They ran McCain, a man at least as unqualified to be President as The Puppet, and totally unqualified to run against a criminal as unscrupulous and unethical as any Democrat candidate. The W administration was an unmitigated disaster. The smart Republicans ran for cover rather than run in the wake of that, which they saw as a sure defeat. And it would have been; the only reason it was even close was Obama's inexperience and the fact that there are quite a few racists left in the country. McCain might still have pulled it off, but then they hung the Alaska Simpleton around his neck and he was done. |
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Post by Ranger John on Jul 2, 2016 19:57:17 GMT -5
The reason they couldn't beat The Puppet is because they didn't really want to beat The Puppet. They ran McCain, a man at least as unqualified to be President as The Puppet, and totally unqualified to run against a criminal as unscrupulous and unethical as any Democrat candidate. The W administration was an unmitigated disaster. The smart Republicans ran for cover rather than run in the wake of that, which they saw as a sure defeat. And it would have been; the only reason it was even close was Obama's inexperience and the fact that there are quite a few racists left in the country. McCain might still have pulled it off, but then they hung the Alaska Simpleton around his neck and he was done. Race helped Obama far more than it hurt him. |
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Post by redleg on Jul 2, 2016 20:24:43 GMT -5
The reason they couldn't beat The Puppet is because they didn't really want to beat The Puppet. They ran McCain, a man at least as unqualified to be President as The Puppet, and totally unqualified to run against a criminal as unscrupulous and unethical as any Democrat candidate. The W administration was an unmitigated disaster. The smart Republicans ran for cover rather than run in the wake of that, which they saw as a sure defeat. And it would have been; the only reason it was even close was Obama's inexperience and the fact that there are quite a few racists left in the country. McCain might still have pulled it off, but then they hung the Alaska Simpleton around his neck and he was done. Talk about a rewrite of history.  Bush wasn't a great President, but after Clinton, he was above average. He was far better than The Puppet has been. The problem was the same one we have now. The LR media, the propaganda arm of the DNC, was much more powerful then than it is now, and painted him as a nincompoop, and blamed him for the Democrat's criminal incompetence. And there weren't enough people to actually look at the facts to make the difference. |
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Post by aboutwell on Jul 2, 2016 20:46:43 GMT -5
I don't think so... and you can't back up that claim... and the FBI can investigate anybody... me or you... and may have... doesn't mean anybody is guilty... to think that Trump would put them in prison for the rest of their lives, if elected, is really funny... "An aide for Bill Clinton also backed up Lynch's account, adding that the former president routinely extends greetings to Cabinet secretaries, members of Congress and other dignitaries when he runs across them. The meeting was not prearranged — it happened spontaneously after Clinton and Lynch realized they were both on the same tarmac in Arizona, the aide said."Nothing unusual here... Just the information that's been made public about her emails shows treason. It also shows the sale of influence, and bribery. The only reason she hasn't been indicted is because The Puppet wants to have control over her and Waco Billy Boy, so he won't indict unless she does something he really doesn't like. That, and she is the only thing the Dems have going right now, their only hope of continuing to destroy the country. What one of Waco Billy Boy's aides says is irrelevant. He is a suspect in an ongoing FBI investigation, and a witness in another. He has no business "meeting" with the chief LEO of the nation when she has control over both investigations. I should have made a new paragraph... I meant you can't back up your claim that Clinton waited for Lynch at Shy Harbor... The other BS about the emails is just another day of the same old bull... and may be until the election in November... nothing new... just more right-wing witch hunting... they thought they had ole Bill near the end of his term to... impeached him... backfired on 'em though... |
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Post by aboutwell on Jul 2, 2016 20:49:10 GMT -5
"An aide for Bill Clinton also backed up Lynch's account, adding that the former president routinely extends greetings to Cabinet secretaries, members of Congress and other dignitaries when he runs across them. The meeting was not prearranged — it happened spontaneously after Clinton and Lynch realized they were both on the same tarmac in Arizona, the aide said." If the Republicans lose the 2016 presidential election they will have only themselves to blame. Almost anyone could beat Hillary, given her baggage. Almost anyone except a man who is possibly a grifter, certainly an incompetent businessman, and a boor. Should this happen, one must hope they will engage in the sort of self-examination they should have already performed following their having handed us the second worst president of the 21st century, and indeed, my long life, George W. Bush. That they failed to engage in such self-examination following Bush was sad enough. That they failed to see it after they couldn't beat a man completely unqualified to hold the office of president at the time he first ran (Obama). Of course, given that the country has survived Obama, it can probably survive Trump and Hillary. I expect that either one of them will be a one and done president. I would say the same thing too... and Bill hasn't paid me... even though I've known him since he was governor in Arkansas... |
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Post by aboutwell on Jul 2, 2016 20:54:47 GMT -5
I don't think so... and you can't back up that claim... and the FBI can investigate anybody... me or you... and may have... doesn't mean anybody is guilty... to think that Trump would put them in prison for the rest of their lives, if elected, is really funny... "An aide for Bill Clinton also backed up Lynch's account, adding that the former president routinely extends greetings to Cabinet secretaries, members of Congress and other dignitaries when he runs across them. The meeting was not prearranged — it happened spontaneously after Clinton and Lynch realized they were both on the same tarmac in Arizona, the aide said."Nothing unusual here... Sources tell ABC15 Clinton was notified Lynch would be arriving at the airport soon and waited for her arrival. You're talking a few minutes... to me a wait in an airport is much longer than a few minutes... and he didn't wait a long time... but yes, in a sense, he did wait... you win... |
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Post by redleg on Jul 2, 2016 21:02:47 GMT -5
Just the information that's been made public about her emails shows treason. It also shows the sale of influence, and bribery. The only reason she hasn't been indicted is because The Puppet wants to have control over her and Waco Billy Boy, so he won't indict unless she does something he really doesn't like. That, and she is the only thing the Dems have going right now, their only hope of continuing to destroy the country. What one of Waco Billy Boy's aides says is irrelevant. He is a suspect in an ongoing FBI investigation, and a witness in another. He has no business "meeting" with the chief LEO of the nation when she has control over both investigations. I should have made a new paragraph... I meant you can't back up your claim that Clinton waited for Lynch at Shy Harbor... The other BS about the emails is just another day of the same old bull... and may be until the election in November... nothing new... just more right-wing witch hunting... they thought they had ole Bill near the end of his term to... impeached him... backfired on 'em though... Again, both because the LR media refused to report on what he was doing, like starting a war to cover for his philandering, lying about it, and the Dems refusing to even look at the evidence. I provided you with a link showing that he DID wait for her. He flew there specifically to meet with her. |
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Post by redleg on Jul 2, 2016 21:03:41 GMT -5
You're talking a few minutes... to me a wait in an airport is much longer than a few minutes... and he didn't wait a long time... but yes, in a sense, he did wait... you win... He knew when she would be there. He flew there specifically to meet with her. |
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Post by breakingbad on Jul 3, 2016 3:35:12 GMT -5
To be perfectly honest, Trump will probably make the Clintons an offer to make it all go away. President Trump could pardon them both, and it's the only way the Clintons make all this vanish without the appearance of additional corruption. In all likelihood, there won't be a President Trump... Unfortunately, you're probably right. There's just too many people like you that will excuse anything these people do, just because they are Democrats. |
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Post by Evil Yoda on Jul 3, 2016 10:08:10 GMT -5
I would say the same thing too... and Bill hasn't paid me... even though I've known him since he was governor in Arkansas... I did not assert that anyone paid you. You're a union man, and for unions, the Democrats are the only choice. The Republicans favor only business interests and will never support unions. That's a motivation for you to support Clinton that doesn't require any money to change hands. |
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