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Post by bobloblaw on Jul 31, 2016 15:54:55 GMT -5
I got the Ravens to win the 2017 Super Bowl at 30 to 1. I couldn't resist. The Steelers are 10 to 1 and the Seahawks are the favorites.
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Post by Evil Yoda on Jul 31, 2016 18:22:11 GMT -5
Good luck. That should be a nice payoff if they manage it.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 31, 2016 23:44:36 GMT -5
Back in the day, a friend of mine would always have to attend a work conference in Anaheim, and on the way back, he'd always stop off for a day or two in Vegas. He'd call me and ask how much I wanted to put down on the long shot for next year's Super Bowl. Our bets typically never exceeded a couple of hundred bucks (I'm not what you'd call a betting man), and needless to say, we never won.
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Post by bobloblaw on Aug 1, 2016 7:37:45 GMT -5
I was out in Las Vegas one year and put a bet down on the Ravens at 18:1 to win the division and 23:1 to win the Super Bowl. That was the year Cundiff missed the kick....
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Post by Ravenchamp on Aug 1, 2016 7:53:00 GMT -5
NO way to tell until teams actually are playing. Even a favorite can flop
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Post by Evil Yoda on Aug 1, 2016 11:15:11 GMT -5
NO way to tell until teams actually are playing. Even a favorite can flop Sure, but while you're gathering that information, so are the oddsmakers. And since they do it for a living, they're better at it than you are.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 1, 2016 23:22:06 GMT -5
I was out in Las Vegas one year and put a bet down on the Ravens at 18:1 to win the division and 23:1 to win the Super Bowl. That was the year Cundiff missed the kick.... That was one hell of an expensive missed kick.
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Post by Ravenchamp on Aug 2, 2016 11:44:25 GMT -5
The whole season failed on that one kick. I created new foul words that night that never existed
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Post by breakingbad on Aug 28, 2016 4:30:32 GMT -5
The whole season failed on that one kick. I created new foul words that night that never existed It also created a new very popular verb around here: "He really Cundiffed that one!"
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Post by Ravenchamp on Sept 3, 2016 22:39:42 GMT -5
Ravens had a decent 4 an 0 Preseason. Looked strong.
Now let's see what they bring
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Post by Evil Yoda on Sept 4, 2016 18:51:30 GMT -5
The preseason suggests there is more depth than last year, but, then, they cut a lot of guys that contributed to it. So we don't even know that. Coming off 5-11 and with as little as we've seen of the starters, at this point all we can say us "We don't know."
There are many winnable games in the schedule - but I thought that last year and they proved me wrong (in part because so many people got injuried).
I don't have a high opinion of the scheming on either side of the football. It's serviceable but bland and unoriginal, and I think superior coaches will be able to exploit that. There's a reason no one sought Pees or Trestman for head coaching jobs.
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Post by bobloblaw on Sept 6, 2016 12:27:56 GMT -5
Sports Illustrated predicts the Ravens to win the Super Bowl. I might be in the money.
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Post by Ravenchamp on Sept 6, 2016 16:01:51 GMT -5
As they say, any given Sunday
We'll see
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Post by Deleted on Sept 6, 2016 23:23:56 GMT -5
Sports Illustrated predicts the Ravens to win the Super Bowl. I might be in the money. No, they're predicting Pittsburgh to win the AFC. They have the Ravens down for 8-8.
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Post by Evil Yoda on Sept 7, 2016 14:51:08 GMT -5
Sports Illustrated, admittedly different people, predicted a far worse season for the Orioles than they have executed so far. Be wary of trusting them too far.
Based on last year, the large number of elderly role players, and the lack of good corners and a decent pass rush (unless Suggs comes way the hell back), 8-8 is probably a reasonable guess.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 7, 2016 22:51:53 GMT -5
Sports Illustrated, admittedly different people, predicted a far worse season for the Orioles than they have executed so far. Be wary of trusting them too far. Based on last year, the large number of elderly role players, and the lack of good corners and a decent pass rush (unless Suggs comes way the hell back), 8-8 is probably a reasonable guess. Dumervil is already out for Week 1. And so it begins. . .
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Post by Evil Yoda on Sept 8, 2016 11:41:32 GMT -5
Stan White was on the radio this morning. His opinions, as best I remember them: lack of a pass rush is a concern, with Suggs having played only a few series, Dumervil out, and ZSmith also hurt last year. He does believe Weddle will make the secondary better; they will play smarter football and be less easy to fool. He says defending deep threats (such as the Giants can bring to bear) will depend on a healthy JSmith. Didn't have much to say on the offensive side of the ball past that Joe will have a lot of tools this year and there should be no excuse for a weak passing game.
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Post by Ravenchamp on Sept 8, 2016 21:38:43 GMT -5
Joe will make the points, its up to the defense
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Post by Deleted on Sept 8, 2016 23:55:49 GMT -5
Stan White was on the radio this morning. His opinions, as best I remember them: lack of a pass rush is a concern, with Suggs having played only a few series, Dumervil out, and ZSmith also hurt last year. He does believe Weddle will make the secondary better; they will play smarter football and be less easy to fool. He says defending deep threats (such as the Giants can bring to bear) will depend on a healthy JSmith. Didn't have much to say on the offensive side of the ball past that Joe will have a lot of tools this year and there should be no excuse for a weak passing game. The pass rush is generally the biggest concern, particularly now with Dumervil already out for the opener, and at age 32, who knows when he'll be ready to go? Those are the perils of relying on older veterans. I think Weddel could be a good addition, but the question is, will he be exposed in pass coverage? A lot of that will depend on the pass rush and also on the corners. Jimmy Smith needs to play like he did a few years ago, and Shareece Wright needs to hold up on the other side. If the Ravens can generate pressure, then whatever shortcomings they have as far as coverage will be minimized; if not, then they could struggle to get off the field the way they did in 2015. The offense has added some pieces, but I'm withholding judgment until they take the field. People can rave all they want about the Mike Wallace signing, but my instincts tell me there's a reason three teams let him walk away. Perriman needs to demonstrate that he can stay on the field and produce, while Steve Smith needs to squeeze another year out of his 37-year-old legs. There's upside, but it's also served with a healthy dose of question marks.
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Post by Ravenchamp on Sept 9, 2016 11:58:05 GMT -5
I'll go 10 an 6 in 2016
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Post by Evil Yoda on Sept 10, 2016 15:10:34 GMT -5
10-6 seems to be a popular projection, yes. And that would be a substantial improvement from last year's dismal 5-11, so there's that. After we watch them against the Bills it should be possible to forecast at least a little more accurately, as it takes a real game to display a team's strengths and weaknesses.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 10, 2016 23:04:40 GMT -5
A number of NFL coaches believe that it's difficult to tell what kind of team you really have until about Week 6.
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Post by Evil Yoda on Sept 11, 2016 10:09:30 GMT -5
A number of NFL coaches believe that it's difficult to tell what kind of team you really have until about Week 6. Maybe they figure it takes that long to see teams strong (and weak) in all the possible areas, to assess how their team handles that? Last year's preseason suggested they lacked depth, something we discovered was true during the regular season following a great many injuries. This year's preseason doesn't really suggest much of anything, to me.
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