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Post by redleg on Jan 6, 2017 12:19:26 GMT -5
Since it has been right in front of the world for 8 years, and you can't see it, nothing I provide would make any difference. The only thing that has been in front for the last past 8 years is your BS. Your ignorant comments is far from proof. Back up your comments with facts or take a hike. Your trailer park comments will not cut it. Just because you can't recognize sedition and corruption is no reason for the rest of us to ignore it.
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Post by Evil Yoda on Jan 6, 2017 13:13:51 GMT -5
Hillary expressed disdain for people because of what they think. Trump expresses disdain for people for what they are (a woman, fat, disabled).
And, again, it is your opinion, not shared by all, that abortion is murder. Your logic collapses because it rests on a bad axiom.
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Post by Ranger John on Jan 6, 2017 13:51:40 GMT -5
Hillary expressed disdain for people because of what they think. Trump expresses disdain for people for what they are (a woman, fat, disabled). No, Trump expresses disdain for people who disdain him. He's loud and obnoxious about it, and does it in ignorant ways, but his attacks are targeted to individuals, not classes of people.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 6, 2017 13:52:47 GMT -5
Hillary expressed disdain for people because of what they think. Trump expresses disdain for people for what they are (a woman, fat, disabled). And, again, it is your opinion, not shared by all, that abortion is murder. Your logic collapses because it rests on a bad axiom. His logic collapses because it rests on redneckery.
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Post by Evil Yoda on Jan 6, 2017 15:39:53 GMT -5
No, Trump expresses disdain for people who disdain him. He's loud and obnoxious about it, and does it in ignorant ways, but his attacks are targeted to individuals, not classes of people. Except for the one directed at all women. And the one directed at the disabled. And the ones directed at his "enemies". Except for them.
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Post by Ranger John on Jan 6, 2017 15:47:55 GMT -5
No, Trump expresses disdain for people who disdain him. He's loud and obnoxious about it, and does it in ignorant ways, but his attacks are targeted to individuals, not classes of people. Except for the one directed at all women. And the one directed at the disabled. And the ones directed at his "enemies". Except for them. Which one directed at "all women"? I remember ones directed at Carly Fiorina, Megyn Kelly and Rosie O'Donnell. And of course his theory that many women spread their legs for rich and powerful celebrities. I was just shocked an appalled at the assertion that many women spread their legs for wealthy famous people! I can't imagine how anyone could think that... oh wait... And which one directed at the disabled? I remember him attacking a disabled reporter, but not the entire disabled community. There was no Obamaesque reference to the Special Olympics, for example. And yes, I've stipulated that he attacks his enemies.
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Post by Evil Yoda on Jan 6, 2017 15:51:14 GMT -5
Which one directed at "all women"? I remember ones directed at Carly Fiorina, Megyn Kelly and Rosie O'Donnell. And of course his theory that many women spread their legs for rich and powerful celebrities. I was just shocked an appalled at the assertion that many women spread their legs for wealthy famous people! I can't imagine how anyone could think that... oh wait... That's the one. His "grab their pxxxy comment", right from his own mouth, shows a deep disdain for women. Don't take my word for it, ask a woman. I've yet to meet one who found that comment acceptable.
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Post by Ranger John on Jan 6, 2017 15:58:40 GMT -5
Which one directed at "all women"? I remember ones directed at Carly Fiorina, Megyn Kelly and Rosie O'Donnell. And of course his theory that many women spread their legs for rich and powerful celebrities. I was just shocked an appalled at the assertion that many women spread their legs for wealthy famous people! I can't imagine how anyone could think that... oh wait... That's the one. His "grab their pxxxy comment", right from his own mouth, shows a deep disdain for women. Don't take my word for it, ask a woman. I've yet to meet one who found that comment acceptable. Ok, fine. You want to get hung up on an a crudely stated assertion that many women are turned on by money and power. Do you dispute that many women are turned on by money and power? Or are you just disgusted by the phrasing? Because it's clearly true that many women are turned on by money and power. That's not really disputable, and the sentiment doesn't show any sort of disdain for women. It is merely an acknowlegrment of reality. Now, using the P-word was definitely disgusting. But then it was a private conversation. I sometimes use crude words when I'm among friends too. This isn't what your confirmation bias tells you it is.
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Post by winston on Jan 6, 2017 16:35:52 GMT -5
The only thing that has been in front for the last past 8 years is your BS. Your ignorant comments is far from proof. Back up your comments with facts or take a hike. Your trailer park comments will not cut it. Just because you can't recognize sedition and corruption is no reason for the rest of us to ignore it. So you have nothing but BULL SHEET. Please provide some proof or st??
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Post by Evil Yoda on Jan 6, 2017 18:18:22 GMT -5
Because it's clearly true that many women are turned on by money and power. That's not really disputable, and the sentiment doesn't show any sort of disdain for women. It is merely an acknowlegrment of reality. Now, using the P-word was definitely disgusting. But then it was a private conversation. I sometimes use crude words when I'm among friends too. This isn't what your confirmation bias tells you it is. He wasn't with a friend. He was with a business associate. It's exactly what it sounds like. You may be the one with a confirmation bias problem: the (R) filter is preventing you from seeing that Trump is an unpleasant human being who disdains at least half the population.
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Post by bobloblaw on Jan 6, 2017 18:39:45 GMT -5
Which one directed at "all women"? I remember ones directed at Carly Fiorina, Megyn Kelly and Rosie O'Donnell. And of course his theory that many women spread their legs for rich and powerful celebrities. I was just shocked an appalled at the assertion that many women spread their legs for wealthy famous people! I can't imagine how anyone could think that... oh wait... That's the one. His "grab their pxxxy comment", right from his own mouth, shows a deep disdain for women. Don't take my word for it, ask a woman. I've yet to meet one who found that comment acceptable. That's just locker room talk. A lot of men that respect women have said such things. Apparently the many, many women who voted for him thought so too.
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Post by Ranger John on Jan 6, 2017 19:42:59 GMT -5
Because it's clearly true that many women are turned on by money and power. That's not really disputable, and the sentiment doesn't show any sort of disdain for women. It is merely an acknowlegrment of reality. Now, using the P-word was definitely disgusting. But then it was a private conversation. I sometimes use crude words when I'm among friends too. This isn't what your confirmation bias tells you it is. He wasn't with a friend. He was with a business associate. It's exactly what it sounds like. You may be the one with a confirmation bias problem: the (R) filter is preventing you from seeing that Trump is an unpleasant human being who disdains at least half the population. Oh I've got the fact he's an unpleasant human being. What I'm not getting is why you don't think a significant percentage of women are attracted to wealthy, powerful men? Do you live in a PC fantasy world where women don't throw themselves at millionaires and rock stars? Here in reality, there's nothing remotely controversial about that. Sure he said it in a crude way... but again, he said it in what he thought was private to someone he clearly felt comfortable with.
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Post by Evil Yoda on Jan 6, 2017 20:18:28 GMT -5
Oh I've got the fact he's an unpleasant human being. What I'm not getting is why you don't think a significant percentage of women are attracted to wealthy, powerful men? Of course they do. Please explain how that's relevant to whether a man respects women. Because I'm honestly not seeing it.
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Post by Evil Yoda on Jan 6, 2017 20:21:23 GMT -5
That's just locker room talk. A lot of men that respect women have said such things. Apparently the many, many women who voted for him thought so too. I'll respectfully disagree. I was raised better than that. As to why women voted for him? That's likely more complex. A lot of people voted for him as the lesser of two evils. I took the election off because I couldn't vote for either evil with a clean conscience.
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Post by Ranger John on Jan 6, 2017 20:53:52 GMT -5
Oh I've got the fact he's an unpleasant human being. What I'm not getting is why you don't think a significant percentage of women are attracted to wealthy, powerful men? Of course they do. Please explain how that's relevant to whether a man respects women. Because I'm honestly not seeing it. Hunh? You're the one asserting such statements reflect whether or not a man (Trump) respects women. I'm the one saying his statement was merely an acknowledgement of reality. Yes, he said it in a crude way. I won't argue that. Trump is a crude person. YOU'RE the one asserting he disdains women because he remarked on the reality that some of them throw themselves at him because he's rich and famous. Some women do that.
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Post by redleg on Jan 6, 2017 20:57:04 GMT -5
Hillary expressed disdain for people because of what they think. Trump expresses disdain for people for what they are (a woman, fat, disabled). And, again, it is your opinion, not shared by all, that abortion is murder. Your logic collapses because it rests on a bad axiom. No, she expresses disdain for anyone not in her immediate coterie. Unless you are personally under her heel, she doesn't have any respect for you, or anything you do. No, my logic is impeccable. Your understanding is what collapses.
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Post by redleg on Jan 6, 2017 20:59:48 GMT -5
Which one directed at "all women"? I remember ones directed at Carly Fiorina, Megyn Kelly and Rosie O'Donnell. And of course his theory that many women spread their legs for rich and powerful celebrities. I was just shocked an appalled at the assertion that many women spread their legs for wealthy famous people! I can't imagine how anyone could think that... oh wait... That's the one. His "grab their pxxxy comment", right from his own mouth, shows a deep disdain for women. Don't take my word for it, ask a woman. I've yet to meet one who found that comment acceptable. No more than millions of other men, amongst themselves. And if you had a camera and mike recording most woman to woman conversations, you would hear about the same thing about men. This was a private conversation, latched on to by the LR media to protect their massa. And we still don't know if it was "edited for clarity" or not.
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Post by redleg on Jan 6, 2017 21:00:30 GMT -5
Just because you can't recognize sedition and corruption is no reason for the rest of us to ignore it. So you have nothing but BULL SHEET. Please provide some proof or st?? I have. Often. You just don't understand it.
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Post by winston on Jan 7, 2017 2:10:09 GMT -5
So you have nothing but BULL SHEET. Please provide some proof or st?? I have. Often. You just don't understand it. You don't even understand what you post on this forum. You often make ignorant comments
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Post by Evil Yoda on Jan 7, 2017 12:29:38 GMT -5
YOU'RE the one asserting he disdains women because he remarked on the reality that some of them throw themselves at him because he's rich and famous. Some women do that. Whether a woman chases money and power has nothing to do with whether a man respects women or not. And what Trump said, and the way he said it, clearly says he thinks little of women.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 7, 2017 13:14:44 GMT -5
YOU'RE the one asserting he disdains women because he remarked on the reality that some of them throw themselves at him because he's rich and famous. Some women do that. Whether a woman chases money and power has nothing to do with whether a man respects women or not. And what Trump said, and the way he said it, clearly says he thinks little of women. As a male that was brought up to respect women, not just open doors for them, I find Trump's comments toward women very disrespectful. I'll go further. Those that would here put his disgusting comments down to "just locker room talk" are no better than him. I've been in my fair share of locker rooms and heard such talk, I wouldn't pass any of it off as 'just anyththing', it's crude and should be outed as such. I'm no prude but it offends me when any arsehole puts such outrageous statements down to "just locker oom talk", just be honest and own own it.
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Post by Ranger John on Jan 7, 2017 16:43:06 GMT -5
YOU'RE the one asserting he disdains women because he remarked on the reality that some of them throw themselves at him because he's rich and famous. Some women do that. Whether a woman chases money and power has nothing to do with whether a man respects women or not. And what Trump said, and the way he said it, clearly says he thinks little of women. Then what Trump said has nothing to do with whether or not he respects women, because what he essentially said is women chase money and power. Your post is a non-sequitur.
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Post by bobloblaw on Jan 7, 2017 16:58:18 GMT -5
I wonder if Melania can charge more per hour now that she is First Lady (in title only)?
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Post by redleg on Jan 7, 2017 18:37:33 GMT -5
I wonder if Melania can charge more per hour now that she is First Lady (in title only)? I wonder if The Puppet can give those two kids back to who ever he rented them from, now that they have so many miles on them.
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Post by winston on Jan 8, 2017 0:11:14 GMT -5
I wonder if Melania can charge more per hour now that she is First Lady (in title only)? I wonder if The Puppet can give those two kids back to who ever he rented them from, now that they have so many miles on them. Your trailer park persona tells a lot about your ignorance’s
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