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Post by palealeman on Sept 16, 2017 10:04:01 GMT -5
The Gov has decided to defund Baltimore City's Criminal Justice Coordinating Council because he doesn't think it is taking steps to decrease violent crime in the City. www.baltimoresun.com/news/maryland/baltimore-city/bs-md-ci-hogan-cjcc-20170915-story.htmlThe question I have is why? He's been to one meeting and he set the agenda. He has no idea what the Council does, has does, or is doing. Other than this being a blatantly political move, why's he doing this? It makes no sense at all.
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Post by bobloblaw on Sept 24, 2017 15:17:41 GMT -5
It's Governor Slogan. He's all hat and no cattle.
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Post by bobloblaw on Sept 24, 2017 15:23:12 GMT -5
LOL That's the Story of my Pathetic Life.
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Post by bobloblaw on Sept 24, 2017 15:23:43 GMT -5
Hell I dont know Nothing about Anything either for that Matter.
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Post by palealeman on Sept 25, 2017 10:06:36 GMT -5
And now Governor Hogan wants to build toll roads in three highways that essentially serve the DC metro area, again leaving Baltimore out of the equation. Amazon wants to build a new HQ and Baltimore might be a good place, but with the Gov against light rail in Baltimore and MTA bus service a mess, why would Amazon consider the city?
And why toll roads, Gov, if you complained about high tolls and reduced tolls after you took office? Especially tolls that, at rush hour, could equal $1 mile.
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Post by Ranger John on Sept 25, 2017 11:32:28 GMT -5
And now Governor Hogan wants to build toll roads in three highways that essentially serve the DC metro area, again leaving Baltimore out of the equation. Amazon wants to build a new HQ and Baltimore might be a good place, but with the Gov against light rail in Baltimore and MTA bus service a mess, why would Amazon consider the city? And why toll roads, Gov, if you complained about high tolls and reduced tolls after you took office? Especially tolls that, at rush hour, could equal $1 mile. Can you provide a link to the information about the toll roads?
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Post by Ranger John on Sept 25, 2017 11:34:36 GMT -5
The Gov has decided to defund Baltimore City's Criminal Justice Coordinating Council because he doesn't think it is taking steps to decrease violent crime in the City. www.baltimoresun.com/news/maryland/baltimore-city/bs-md-ci-hogan-cjcc-20170915-story.htmlThe question I have is why? He's been to one meeting and he set the agenda. He has no idea what the Council does, has does, or is doing. Other than this being a blatantly political move, why's he doing this? It makes no sense at all. The money is apparently going to the Mayor’s anti-crime Office. Which might not be the best idea either. But it’s hard to argue any of Baltimore’s anti-crime efforts have been effective. Including the CJCC.
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Post by palealeman on Sept 25, 2017 13:50:01 GMT -5
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Post by palealeman on Sept 25, 2017 13:57:12 GMT -5
The Gov has decided to defund Baltimore City's Criminal Justice Coordinating Council because he doesn't think it is taking steps to decrease violent crime in the City. www.baltimoresun.com/news/maryland/baltimore-city/bs-md-ci-hogan-cjcc-20170915-story.htmlThe question I have is why? He's been to one meeting and he set the agenda. He has no idea what the Council does, has does, or is doing. Other than this being a blatantly political move, why's he doing this? It makes no sense at all. The money is apparently going to the Mayor’s anti-crime Office. Which might not be the best idea either. But it’s hard to argue any of Baltimore’s anti-crime efforts have been effective. Including the CJCC. There are multiple causes of crime. Education, parenting, social status, type of housing, among other things, can all play a part. To just come in without cause and take money from one group and give it to another probably won't have much effect on anything. When I worked with the DOC, we learned that just over half of the prisoners released from State custody were returning to Baltimore City, and about half of them -- about 4,000 a year, as I remember -- to 4 city zip codes -- 21213, 21216, 21217, AND 21218. Maybe money would be better spent on projects proven to help in those areas -- projects to help keep kids in school, parenting classes to try to keep parents together or at least responsible for their children, projects to help with affordable housing, job training for ini-demand jobs that pay a decent wage, etc., etc., etc.
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Post by Ranger John on Sept 25, 2017 14:10:54 GMT -5
Ok, so it seems the toll lanes will be in addition to the existing roads, like the express lanes on I-95, rather than tolling existing roads. I think that makes sense on I-270 and I-495. I think he’s going to have trouble convincing the National Park Service to give up the BW Parkway
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Post by Ranger John on Sept 25, 2017 14:12:24 GMT -5
The money is apparently going to the Mayor’s anti-crime Office. Which might not be the best idea either. But it’s hard to argue any of Baltimore’s anti-crime efforts have been effective. Including the CJCC. There are multiple causes of crime. Education, parenting, social status, type of housing, among other things, can all play a part. To just come in without cause and take money from one group and give it to another probably won't have much effect on anything. When I worked with the DOC, we learned that just over half of the prisoners released from State custody were returning to Baltimore City, and about half of them -- about 4,000 a year, as I remember -- to 4 city zip codes -- 21213, 21216, 21217, AND 21218. Maybe money would be better spent on projects proven to help in those areas -- projects to help keep kids in school, parenting classes to try to keep parents together or at least responsible for their children, projects to help with affordable housing, job training for ini-demand jobs that pay a decent wage, etc., etc., etc. When did you work with DOC, and has anyone done anything about your findings? If not, seems to me to be proof the existing bureaucracy isn’t effective, including CJCC.
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Post by bobloblaw on Sept 25, 2017 17:05:48 GMT -5
That's going to have to be a huge toll in order to make it work.
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Post by Ranger John on Sept 25, 2017 18:52:28 GMT -5
That's going to have to be a huge toll in order to make it work. What is going to need a huge toll? All three of those highways have enough traffic on them to pay them off really fast.
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Post by palealeman on Sept 26, 2017 8:47:25 GMT -5
There are multiple causes of crime. Education, parenting, social status, type of housing, among other things, can all play a part. To just come in without cause and take money from one group and give it to another probably won't have much effect on anything. When I worked with the DOC, we learned that just over half of the prisoners released from State custody were returning to Baltimore City, and about half of them -- about 4,000 a year, as I remember -- to 4 city zip codes -- 21213, 21216, 21217, AND 21218. Maybe money would be better spent on projects proven to help in those areas -- projects to help keep kids in school, parenting classes to try to keep parents together or at least responsible for their children, projects to help with affordable housing, job training for ini-demand jobs that pay a decent wage, etc., etc., etc. When did you work with DOC, and has anyone done anything about your findings? If not, seems to me to be proof the existing bureaucracy isn’t effective, including CJCC. This particular time was in 2000 - 2002. Our focus was on prisoner reentry, trying to make sure that prisoners had some training before release, trying to make sure there were connections set up on the outside for referrals, perhaps job training, job placement, and so forth. We started various small projects with the intent to move them to scale as we progressed, could evaluate outcomes, and get more money. I left in early 2003. I don't know what's going on today, but I would think some of these efforts are still ongoing.
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Post by palealeman on Sept 26, 2017 8:49:05 GMT -5
That's going to have to be a huge toll in order to make it work. What is going to need a huge toll? All three of those highways have enough traffic on them to pay them off really fast. Problem is, RJ, the tolls never stop. How long have the bay bridges been paid off? Tolls are still being collected. These tolls will never stop either. I know there's a solution -- don't use the toll lanes. For the most part, I don't.
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Post by Ranger John on Sept 26, 2017 9:11:31 GMT -5
What is going to need a huge toll? All three of those highways have enough traffic on them to pay them off really fast. Problem is, RJ, the tolls never stop. How long have the bay bridges been paid off? Tolls are still being collected. These tolls will never stop either. I know there's a solution -- don't use the toll lanes. For the most part, I don't. Part of the point of tolls is to reduce traffic congestion by allowing one to pay to use a less congested roadway. It will be less congested because people have a preference for free travel. Furthermore, the tolls raised on these roads will likely supplement highway maintenance on other roads. Much the same way Delaware uses its toll booth on I-95 to supplemrnt highway maintenance elsewhere in the state. Highway funding has to come from somewhere. In PA, we jacked up our gasoline tax to a ridiculous level. Having the option to pay a toll for faster travel which then goes to maintain other roads is a great way to get those who can to chip in a bit more.
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Post by Ranger John on Sept 26, 2017 9:13:06 GMT -5
When did you work with DOC, and has anyone done anything about your findings? If not, seems to me to be proof the existing bureaucracy isn’t effective, including CJCC. This particular time was in 2000 - 2002. Our focus was on prisoner reentry, trying to make sure that prisoners had some training before release, trying to make sure there were connections set up on the outside for referrals, perhaps job training, job placement, and so forth. We started various small projects with the intent to move them to scale as we progressed, could evaluate outcomes, and get more money. I left in early 2003. I don't know what's going on today, but I would think some of these efforts are still ongoing. I hope those efforts are continuing. They’re worthwhile. But I’m not seeing what the CJCC did that was effective enough to continue paying for.
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Post by demopublican on Dec 24, 2017 22:39:45 GMT -5
KevKam, MO’M, SJB, Dixon, and Pugh have done so little to stem the flow of blood in the streets but PAM and the other Crats want to come after Hogan like he is to blame.
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