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Post by Deleted on Nov 4, 2013 20:08:36 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Nov 4, 2013 20:12:27 GMT -5
There's no such thing as a free lunch. Even entitlements have their cost; i.e.; personal freedom. For a fact check, see "Obamacare."
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Post by Deleted on Nov 4, 2013 20:13:21 GMT -5
Hey I know there is no such thing as free unless of course you think Obama walks on water.
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Post by douger on Nov 4, 2013 20:14:57 GMT -5
Of course it's free, Mom. The government's paying for it.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 4, 2013 20:16:18 GMT -5
douger let me school you. Government is funded by taxpayers. Please keep that in mind.
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Post by douger on Nov 4, 2013 20:18:34 GMT -5
douger let me school you. Government is funded by taxpayer. Please keep that in mind. It is? Really? I wondered if the NYT readership could grasp the concept of subsidies. Let me "school" you. The taxpayers don't pay all of the federali's budget. $700 billion of it was borrowed last year.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 4, 2013 20:21:47 GMT -5
douger let me school you. Government is funded by taxpayer. Please keep that in mind. It is? Really? ;)m I wondered if the NYT readership could grasp the concept of subsidies. douger yet it is --- really. Because the NYT still thinks Obama walks on water. The talking points seem to be that the insurances dropping people are because they were junk policies. Really? Who decided that one?
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Post by Deleted on Nov 4, 2013 20:24:45 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Nov 4, 2013 20:28:12 GMT -5
True - this president was bought.
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Post by douger on Nov 4, 2013 20:30:10 GMT -5
It is? Really? ;)m I wondered if the NYT readership could grasp the concept of subsidies. douger yet it is --- really. Because the NYT still thinks Obama walks on water. The talking points seem to be that the insurances dropping people are because they were junk policies. Really? Who decided that one? They're "junk policies" if you compare the coverage to what someone might have. The thing is, many people who are in the individual market - as compared to employer sponsored plans - have done their homework and bought plans that suited them both in coverage and cost. Most men I know haven't much need for pregnancy care, ya know.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 4, 2013 20:30:36 GMT -5
True - this president was bought. Thank you Mom.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 4, 2013 20:35:55 GMT -5
At one time my family had an individual policy. Our payment was $500.00 per month. That was NOT easy to pay but we did so as we needed the insurance. It covered what we needed as we had a baby under the plan.
I wonder if Obama is willing to give up his plan and doctor.
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Post by Evil Yoda on Nov 4, 2013 21:05:39 GMT -5
Free in the sense that others are paying for them, sure. This makes it a form of socialized medicine.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 4, 2013 21:10:00 GMT -5
Is Jay Carney able to apply for health care? During today's briefing he does appear annoyed.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 4, 2013 21:15:31 GMT -5
Not so, according to Sunflower "over there" it is so..... because his god said so.
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Post by Moses on Nov 4, 2013 21:19:17 GMT -5
Lol look at all the sour grapes. Try winning an election occasionally. Even better, try trotting out a decent candidate. even the last guy you elected twice was terrible .
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Post by Moses on Nov 4, 2013 21:20:27 GMT -5
At one time my family had an individual policy. Our payment was $500.00 per month. That was NOT easy to pay but we did so as we needed the insurance. It covered what we needed as we had a baby under the plan. I wonder if Obama is willing to give up his plan and doctor. Lol. What a load of simplistic BS. More bumper stickers?
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Post by Deleted on Nov 4, 2013 21:59:28 GMT -5
Not so, according to Sunflower "over there" it is so..... because his god said so. Nothing is free. Someone has to pay.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 4, 2013 22:07:41 GMT -5
Not so, according to Sunflower "over there" it is so..... because his god said so. Nothing is free. Someone has to pay. You know it, I know it, the scum parasites don't know it. Or care.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 4, 2013 22:08:44 GMT -5
Nothing is free. Someone has to pay. You know it, I know it, the scum parasites don't know it. Or care. Hope is eternal.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 4, 2013 22:26:23 GMT -5
Just wondering....that 10% of Medicare expansion states will need to pick up in 3 years (the ones that expanded, that is)....anyone have any idea what the real numbers are for that?? I suspecting it's quite expensive.
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Post by Moses on Nov 4, 2013 22:28:18 GMT -5
Just wondering....that 10% of Medicare expansion states will need to pick up in 3 years (the ones that expanded, that is)....anyone have any idea what the real numbers are for that?? I suspecting it's quite expensive. It's all bad your worst nightmares are coming true nothing is good it's terrible oh my God. LOL
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Post by Deleted on Nov 4, 2013 22:37:38 GMT -5
Just wondering....that 10% of Medicare expansion states will need to pick up in 3 years (the ones that expanded, that is)....anyone have any idea what the real numbers are for that?? I suspecting it's quite expensive. It's all bad your worst nightmares are coming true nothing is good it's terrible oh my God. LOL So do you know the answer?? Looks like Maryland spends about 10billion in healthcare, which means Medicare. dbm.maryland.gov/agencies/operbudget/Documents/2014/BudgetHighlightsFY2014.pdfNot sure what the projected increase will be-- we're talking tens of millions at least at the 10% rate. Where is that revenue going to come from?? State's going to have to cut, or raise taxes.
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Post by kemmer on Nov 5, 2013 0:02:38 GMT -5
douger let me school you. Government is funded by taxpayer. Please keep that in mind. It is? Really? I wondered if the NYT readership could grasp the concept of subsidies. Let me "school" you. The taxpayers don't pay all of the federali's budget. $700 billion of it was borrowed last year. So, the same people (young & healthy) being swept into buying faux insurance will ALSO have to pony up to pay the debt. Man, what a sweet deal they're getting!
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Post by kemmer on Nov 5, 2013 0:13:21 GMT -5
Just wondering....that 10% of Medicare expansion states will need to pick up in 3 years (the ones that expanded, that is)....anyone have any idea what the real numbers are for that?? I suspecting it's quite expensive. The feds only pick up the tab for those who qualify under the NEW means test. The states must pay 100% of the cost of new registrants who qualify under the OLD means test, but weren't in "the system" because they didn't have any medical expenses. (Quite often, maybe most often, people aren't enrolled in Medicaid until there's a bill to pay. With all the publicity about exchanges and subsidies, sign-ups are rising, quickly.) I'm thinking a lot of state health officials didn't bother to read that bit of fine print when they eagerly reached for those yummy federal dollars. Ummm... BOHICA?
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