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Post by com6063 on Nov 7, 2013 9:53:59 GMT -5
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Post by douger on Nov 7, 2013 10:01:02 GMT -5
I don't follow Big Business finance as closely as perhaps I should, but as I recall, Mark Zuckerberg did really well in his IPO. His investors, not so much since the stock price for Facebook has been below the IPO price. No expert I, what's the difference between Facebook of several years ago and Twitter today?
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Post by howarewegoingtopay on Nov 7, 2013 10:15:59 GMT -5
How exactly does twitter make money? Without that it is all just a sucker deal.
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Post by douger on Nov 7, 2013 10:29:13 GMT -5
How exactly does twitter make money? Without that it is all just a sucker deal. The same way Google and Facebook do. They're advertising vehicles.
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Post by howarewegoingtopay on Nov 7, 2013 11:30:43 GMT -5
How exactly does twitter make money? Without that it is all just a sucker deal. The same way Google and Facebook do. They're advertising vehicles. Since the IPO seems to be before the advertising it remains to be seen if this will generate enough profit. (remember the small text limits) Facebook is having problems with mobile devices not having enough screen to show advertising, same for google. I like to know how the profit is being made, and if it is enough before buying in, but then I am not a gambler so will never get rich, or likely to go broke.
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Post by Evil Yoda on Nov 7, 2013 13:06:58 GMT -5
Twitter is chiefly a marketing tool. Eventually even its dumbest users will realize this. I did not buy any and do not plan to, unless the price drops considerably. You can sometimes earn on the bounce in that situation. But it's tricky because you've got to time it, and I hate trying to time the market; it rarely works well.
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Post by com6063 on Nov 7, 2013 13:52:53 GMT -5
Twitter is chiefly a marketing tool. Eventually even its dumbest users will realize this. I did not buy any and do not plan to, unless the price drops considerably. You can sometimes earn on the bounce in that situation. But it's tricky because you've got to time it, and I hate trying to time the market; it rarely works well. If you go on the Twitter web site, the founders seem to think that it is the greatest thing since...well, Facebook and sliced bread. I'll be curious to see where it is five years from now.
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Post by Evil Yoda on Nov 7, 2013 15:31:01 GMT -5
Well, what else would a company's founders thing? They're all going to be wealthy.
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Post by howarewegoingtopay on Nov 7, 2013 16:24:34 GMT -5
Well, what else would a company's founders thing? They're all going to be wealthy. I wonder when the government will try and step in and control IPO's and the real lack of substance behind a lot of them. Look at the dot com's most of them folded, and the only people making money were the original starters.
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Post by douger on Nov 7, 2013 16:27:29 GMT -5
Well, what else would a company's founders thing? They're all going to be wealthy. I wonder when the government will try and step in and control IPO's and the real lack of substance behind a lot of them. Look at the dot com's most of them folded, and the only people making money were the original starters. There's a flip side to that for consideration: it gives the government even more opportunity to pick winners and losers. I am far too cynical to believe our United States government is capable of such power being used in a fair, even handed manner because it so abuses the power already.
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Post by kemmer on Nov 8, 2013 0:15:24 GMT -5
Well, what else would a company's founders thing? They're all going to be wealthy. I wonder when the government will try and step in and control IPO's and the real lack of substance behind a lot of them. Look at the dot com's most of them folded, and the only people making money were the original starters. Ummm... the government already controls IPO's. Paperwork must be filed with accurate numbers regarding profit, losses, debt level, cash-flow, et al. I can't print up shares in "Kemmer's Kewl Kompany" on a mimeograph machine in my basement and get them listed on any stock exchange absent sanction by the SEC. If investors want to purchase shares of a new company that has zero profits, but might have great potential, that's on THEM! They should do their due diligence, and understand that institutional investors get first crack at the opening price. (I should note that said institutional investors can be relied upon to be "first in" on the many IPO's that don't make the network news, so there's a reason they get "first crack.") I never buy IPO's in the first days simply because I'm not one of the privileged investors. (And, my daddy told me not to.) I try to stay away from companies that have lots of debt and no profits, too. Others like to take a flier, and often they are well rewarded. But it's a gamble, and investors who buy IPO's on day one should know they're gambling. In other news, Whole Foods does make a profit, and beat "street expectations" last night-- and its share price DROPPED this morning, rather dramatically. Go figure.
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