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Post by douger on Nov 7, 2013 13:00:49 GMT -5
This route may be a tough one for former players.I don't think that the full effect of repeated concussions was known then. The other complicating factor is that quality players don't like to sit. P Will the NFL need to step up to the plate to help these men? Morally, I think there's a strong obligation to do so, particularly if they knew what the long term implications to the players was.
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Post by com6063 on Nov 7, 2013 14:14:38 GMT -5
Why would they help the players when the cash cow is still delivering?
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Post by alienrace on Nov 7, 2013 14:42:48 GMT -5
Will the NFL need to step up to the plate to help these men? Morally, I think there's a strong obligation to do so, particularly if they knew what the long term implications to the players was.And that is the rub - when Dorsett and Marshall were playing, nobody really knew anything about CTE and it's relation to depression at all. |
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Post by douger on Nov 7, 2013 14:49:11 GMT -5
Will the NFL need to step up to the plate to help these men? Morally, I think there's a strong obligation to do so, particularly if they knew what the long term implications to the players was.And that is the rub - when Dorsett and Marshall were playing, nobody really knew anything about CTE and it's relation to depression at all. I get that. But, much like cigarette smoking in the 50s, smart people knew that sucking smoke into your lungs probably wasn't a good thing even if they didn't know why. I can't imagine that the medical science of the day dismissed the consequences of getting one's bell rung repeatedly as harmless. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 7, 2013 16:05:09 GMT -5
I wonder if there's a correlation between Dorsett's condition and the Astro-turf fields that were so prevalent at that time. Dallas had a turf field by then, and artificial surfaces back then were brutal. The fields back in those days were about a half step above playing on a parking lot. Having one's head bounced off a surface that was essentially a scatter rug over an asphalt base couldn't bode well for anyone's long-term health.
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Post by alienrace on Nov 7, 2013 16:29:39 GMT -5
And that is the rub - when Dorsett and Marshall were playing, nobody really knew anything about CTE and it's relation to depression at all. I get that. But, much like cigarette smoking in the 50s, smart people knew that sucking smoke into your lungs probably wasn't a good thing even if they didn't know why. I can't imagine that the medical science of the day dismissed the consequences of getting one's bell rung repeatedly as harmless. Right, my point is that it will be hard for players to win such lawsuits if they can't prove the NFL new any more about it than anyone else. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 7, 2013 17:09:56 GMT -5
All three players mentioned were part of a $765 million settlement of a class action suit that included some 4,500 former players. Quite an extraordinary sum, but still not an amount that would bankrupt the NFL, which was spared the expense of the untold billable hours that would have resulted from a slew of individual suits. And the bad publicity is something the NFL didn't need during a protracted legal process.
As part of the settlement, the NFL reportedly did not admit to any culpability for their sport being the source of the players' head trauma.
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Post by oscar on Nov 8, 2013 9:28:38 GMT -5
the biggest "issue" I have with all of them, and yes, I think they should be taken care of, is that they all say even if they new of the risk of CTE, they would still have played the game. To me, that takes the onus off the NFL and puts it right on personal responsibility of the players.
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Post by Evil Yoda on Nov 8, 2013 22:29:58 GMT -5
A condition called second impact syndrome has been known since the 1980s or so. This condition, usually fatal, is a rapid swelling of the brain following a blow to the head received by someone who has not recovered fully from a previous blow to the head. So, the possibility that several concussions in succession could be worse than one would think by considering them as isolated events has been known for at least that long. But the research is still quite inconclusive about precisely what happens to people subject to repeated blows to the head. That includes what long term disorders might develop.
The asbestos lawsuits that made Peter Angelos and many others wealthy turned on the fact that lawyers discovered documentation that proved manufacturers understood and concealed the health hazards of handling the substance. To the best of my knowledge no such documents or supporting research exist for repeated concussions. It certainly seems likely, based on what we know now, that multiple concussions are risks for a number of problems. But as not everyone is affected, there are other risk factors, as yet unidentified.
People still smoke and the science is pretty clear: it significantly increases the risk of certain cancers. People will likewise still play football even if more research confirms the link. For some it's a route out of poverty. For others, a passion. They'll tell themselves "sure, it happened to Joe, but it won't happen to me". And enough of them will be correct that future generations will keep playing the game.
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Post by stevez51 on Nov 9, 2013 10:19:02 GMT -5
So how long before the NFL has the players sign a waiver about playing..  Here are the risks, you want the money, sign here. |
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Post by rocketwolf on Nov 9, 2013 11:09:51 GMT -5
Maybe the players should get the league to invest 1/2 of their insane saleries
so there would be money for long term care in "Homes for the Bewildered and Drooling"
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Post by stevez51 on Nov 9, 2013 11:19:11 GMT -5
Every job has its risks. You want the $$$$, here are the risks. Or is this another lawyer angle.. |
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Post by Evil Yoda on Nov 9, 2013 16:33:53 GMT -5
So how long before the NFL has the players sign a waiver about playing.. Here are the risks, you want the money, sign here. I'd be shocked if they don't already have to sign a waiver like that. I know that the giant settlement they reached with the older players not too long ago also meant that the younger players could not sue them - because the settlement amounted to an admission that getting your bell rung could pose long term hazards, and that all players entering the game now should understand that. |
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Post by Moses on Nov 11, 2013 14:19:32 GMT -5
There is a movie out that's about this, I watched it. It was interesting. I think the worst part of this whole thing is the NFL cover-up.
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Post by com6063 on Nov 12, 2013 10:11:49 GMT -5
There is a movie out that's about this, I watched it. It was interesting. I think the worst part of this whole thing is the NFL cover-up. What is the name of the movie? |
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Post by Moses on Nov 19, 2013 20:30:22 GMT -5
There is a movie out that's about this, I watched it. It was interesting. I think the worst part of this whole thing is the NFL cover-up. What is the name of the movie? Oh dang I'll ask my wife when she gets back . I forgot. I too, played football. Lol She tells me it was on PBS on nova. I thought it was a movie she was watching. |
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Post by Evil Yoda on Nov 24, 2013 11:20:27 GMT -5
Was it "League of Denial"? That's what Google seems to think a movie that aired on PBS about this was called. If the NFL knew and covered things up, no wonder they wanted to settle. That's basically the asbestos industry redux.
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Here are the risks, you want the money, sign here.