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Post by magnaestback on Jul 23, 2014 14:16:26 GMT -5
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Post by middleoftheroad on Jul 23, 2014 14:43:14 GMT -5
Senatr McCain is correct in that the EU will do little until they take steps to break their dependence on Russian natural gas.
That said, Senator McCain has served his nation well in a variety of roles; it is time for him to afford someone else that opportunity.
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Post by magnaestback on Jul 23, 2014 14:49:39 GMT -5
Senatr McCain is correct in that the EU will do little until they take steps to break their dependence on Russian natural gas. That said, Senator McCain has served his nation well in a variety of roles; it is time for him to afford someone else that opportunity. I won't argue with either of your statements. McCain has gone above and beyond in more ways than most realize. Some fools try and compare him to the treasonous phoney Kerry. Your argument isn't with McCain but TERM LIMITS .......... Mikulski, Pelosi & Reid off the top of my head who BTW have never served their country outside of the ivory tower they think they own.
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Post by vosa on Jul 23, 2014 15:31:40 GMT -5
Senatr McCain is correct in that the EU will do little until they take steps to break their dependence on Russian natural gas. That said, Senator McCain has served his nation well in a variety of roles; it is time for him to afford someone else that opportunity. And the solution for that problem is...And where would we get that gas from...Since we want the help of the Europeans in dealing with Putin, and since Mexico refuses to help us stem the flow of illegal immigrants, perhaps we should change the mailing address on some of our natural gas exports.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 23, 2014 18:20:42 GMT -5
Senatr McCain is correct in that the EU will do little until they take steps to break their dependence on Russian natural gas. That said, Senator McCain has served his nation well in a variety of roles; it is time for him to afford someone else that opportunity. I won't argue with either of your statements. McCain has gone above and beyond in more ways than most realize. Some fools try and compare him to the treasonous phoney Kerry. Your argument isn't with McCain but TERM LIMITS .......... Mikulski, Pelosi & Reid off the top of my head who BTW have never served their country outside of the ivory tower they think they own. John McCain makes John Kerry wished he was a war hero.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 23, 2014 18:45:04 GMT -5
The only reason that the US keeps its junkyard dog in the ME and brings 'democracy' to ME countries that do not want it is to protect its own oil interests.
The EU is doing nothing different from the US, they are also looking after their own interests. The only real difference is that they are not bullsh!tting the world that they are being altruistic or benevolent about it.
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Post by magnaestback on Jul 23, 2014 18:46:57 GMT -5
I won't argue with either of your statements. McCain has gone above and beyond in more ways than most realize. Some fools try and compare him to the treasonous phoney Kerry. Your argument isn't with McCain but TERM LIMITS .......... Mikulski, Pelosi & Reid off the top of my head who BTW have never served their country outside of the ivory tower they think they own. John McCain makes John Kerry wished he was a war hero. Well one thing for certain, having the Zero elected over the Hero has hurt this country for decades to follow. This midterm hopefully will neuter the pos and put a fork in him.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 23, 2014 18:50:57 GMT -5
Obama makes us look like fools.
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Post by magnaestback on Jul 23, 2014 18:58:10 GMT -5
The only reason that the US keeps its junkyard dog in the ME and brings 'democracy' to ME countries that do not want it is to protect its own oil interests. The EU is doing nothing different from the US, they are also looking after their own interests. The only real difference is that they are not bullsh!tting the world that they are being altruistic or benevolent about it. I think Churchill might disagree with you but then again he did have the influence of his mother. Chamberlain OTOH might have been like our own Gore, "don't you do that again". Europe is no different, maybe worse than Bobo right now, they lose nearly 300 and do nothing. Pathetic bunch of cowards that they are............ oh no, they supply our gas, we might get cold! Perhaps Lichtenstein will show them what a set looks like? Are you saying they have no interest in the Ukraine???
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Post by Cuchulain on Jul 23, 2014 19:36:29 GMT -5
The only reason that the US keeps its junkyard dog in the ME and brings 'democracy' to ME countries that do not want it is to protect its own oil interests. The EU is doing nothing different from the US, they are also looking after their own interests. The only real difference is that they are not bullsh!tting the world that they are being altruistic or benevolent about it. The only real difference is that, up until the accession of the benighted regime now in power, the U.S. manned the laboring oar in the struggle against Islamist terror. Altruism or benevolence has nothing to do with it - our very survival is at stake. It matters not to me whether Europe survives - Europe is no more prepared to defend its heritage, its culture, and its freedom now than it was in 1940 when the Nazis wreaked havoc across the Continent with Blitzkrieg. It is up to the U.S. now, just as it was up to the U.S. and the U.K. in WWII, to step up to the plate. It is not an optional exercise. "But if we fail, then the whole world, including the United States, including all that we have known and cared for, will sink into the abyss of a new dark age made more sinister, and perhaps more protracted, by the lights of perverted science." WSC - 16 June 1940 - I wonder whether you are all familiar with the the sentence that follows.
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Post by highmc2 on Jul 23, 2014 19:40:23 GMT -5
Two World Wars on their soil may have made them a bit more cautious in waving their d**cks at each other, and sabre rattling.
Poor dumb, cowardly, pos, pathetic, ugly duckling Euro-trash.
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Post by magnaestback on Jul 23, 2014 20:14:53 GMT -5
Two World Wars on their soil may have made them a bit more cautious in waving their d**cks at each other, and sabre rattling. Poor dumb, cowardly, pos, pathetic, ugly duckling Euro-trash. They are what they are, who's lead are they looking for? We have no one to Pied Piper the sheep. Perhaps Putin will be merciful but I doubt it. Next week may be another jet and they'll still trade business as usual. Funny, they actually LIKED this turd!
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Post by highmc2 on Jul 23, 2014 21:18:26 GMT -5
Two World Wars on their soil may have made them a bit more cautious in waving their d**cks at each other, and sabre rattling. Poor dumb, cowardly, pos, pathetic, ugly duckling Euro-trash. They are what they are, who's lead are they looking for? We have no one to Pied Piper the sheep. Perhaps Putin will be merciful but I doubt it. Next week may be another jet and they'll still trade business as usual. Funny, they actually LIKED this turd! Cool, weightlifting pics. Free weights too. Can we call them freedom weights? No wonder the pos, turd is in such good shape. You seem like a big guy there magna, you still hit the iron like the pos moron?
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Post by magnaestback on Jul 23, 2014 21:29:14 GMT -5
They are what they are, who's lead are they looking for? We have no one to Pied Piper the sheep. Perhaps Putin will be merciful but I doubt it. Next week may be another jet and they'll still trade business as usual. Funny, they actually LIKED this turd! Cool, weightlifting pics. Free weights too. Can we call them freedom weights? No wonder the pos, turd is in such good shape. You seem like a big guy there magna, you still hit the iron like the pos moron? Yes, all 2 1/2 lbs of them. Such a manly man he is! Reggie Love would be most impressed! You can call them anything you like, why should I care? My favorite iron is a 7 actually tho it's been a long time.
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Post by highmc2 on Jul 23, 2014 21:53:11 GMT -5
Cool, weightlifting pics. Free weights too. Can we call them freedom weights? No wonder the pos, turd is in such good shape. You seem like a big guy there magna, you still hit the iron like the pos moron? Yes, all 2 1/2 lbs of them. Such a manly man he is! Reggie Love would be most impressed! You can call them anything you like, why should I care? My favorite iron is a 7 actually tho it's been a long time. The pos Zero isn't into bulking up. He's more into the swimmer's body...like Jesus. Celebrity death match The POS v. Putin.
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Post by magnaestback on Jul 23, 2014 21:59:40 GMT -5
Yes, all 2 1/2 lbs of them. Such a manly man he is! Reggie Love would be most impressed! You can call them anything you like, why should I care? My favorite iron is a 7 actually tho it's been a long time. The pos Zero isn't into bulking up. He's more into the swimmer's body...like Jesus. Celebrity death match The POS v. Putin.I'd LOVE to see that, Id put my money on the short sh*t. I doubt the Zero would understand something for keeps whereas the other made a living out of it.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 24, 2014 8:09:53 GMT -5
The only reason that the US keeps its junkyard dog in the ME and brings 'democracy' to ME countries that do not want it is to protect its own oil interests. The EU is doing nothing different from the US, they are also looking after their own interests. The only real difference is that they are not bullsh!tting the world that they are being altruistic or benevolent about it. The only real difference is that, up until the accession of the benighted regime now in power, the U.S. manned the laboring oar in the struggle against Islamist terror. Altruism or benevolence has nothing to do with it - our very survival is at stake. It matters not to me whether Europe survives - Europe is no more prepared to defend its heritage, its culture, and its freedom now than it was in 1940 when the Nazis wreaked havoc across the Continent with Blitzkrieg. It is up to the U.S. now, just as it was up to the U.S. and the U.K. in WWII, to step up to the plate. It is not an optional exercise. "But if we fail, then the whole world, including the United States, including all that we have known and cared for, will sink into the abyss of a new dark age made more sinister, and perhaps more protracted, by the lights of perverted science." WSC - 16 June 1940 - I wonder whether you are all familiar with the the sentence that follows. As I recall, the UK, "stepped up to the plate" 2 1/2 years before the US stepped on it. I am familiar with most of Churchill's keynote speeches, not just the '...This was their finest hour' one, which incidently was given 18 months before the US entered the war.
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Post by aponderer on Jul 24, 2014 8:45:35 GMT -5
The only real difference is that, up until the accession of the benighted regime now in power, the U.S. manned the laboring oar in the struggle against Islamist terror. Altruism or benevolence has nothing to do with it - our very survival is at stake. It matters not to me whether Europe survives - Europe is no more prepared to defend its heritage, its culture, and its freedom now than it was in 1940 when the Nazis wreaked havoc across the Continent with Blitzkrieg. It is up to the U.S. now, just as it was up to the U.S. and the U.K. in WWII, to step up to the plate. It is not an optional exercise. "But if we fail, then the whole world, including the United States, including all that we have known and cared for, will sink into the abyss of a new dark age made more sinister, and perhaps more protracted, by the lights of perverted science." WSC - 16 June 1940 - I wonder whether you are all familiar with the the sentence that follows. As I recall, the UK, "stepped up to the plate" 2 1/2 years before the US stepped on it. I am familiar with most of Churchill's keynote speeches, not just the '...This was their finest hour' one, which incidently was given 18 months before the US entered the war. So? If the US hadn't "stepped up to the plate," the English would be speaking German today IMHO. To help out, even the US gunmaker, Savage Arms, made Mark IV Lee-Enfields for Brit troops.
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Post by middleoftheroad on Jul 24, 2014 8:48:56 GMT -5
The only reason that the US keeps its junkyard dog in the ME and brings 'democracy' to ME countries that do not want it is to protect its own oil interests. The EU is doing nothing different from the US, they are also looking after their own interests. The only real difference is that they are not bullsh!tting the world that they are being altruistic or benevolent about it. The heart of your comment is absolutely correct; nations act in their own interests and likely always will do so.
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Post by vosa on Jul 24, 2014 9:11:26 GMT -5
The only reason that the US keeps its junkyard dog in the ME and brings 'democracy' to ME countries that do not want it is to protect its own oil interests. The EU is doing nothing different from the US, they are also looking after their own interests. The only real difference is that they are not bullsh!tting the world that they are being altruistic or benevolent about it. Israel is doing nothing different from the EU, they are also looking after their own interests. The only real difference is that they are not bullsh!tting the world that they are being altruistic or benevolent about it.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 24, 2014 9:25:59 GMT -5
As I recall, the UK, "stepped up to the plate" 2 1/2 years before the US stepped on it. I am familiar with most of Churchill's keynote speeches, not just the '...This was their finest hour' one, which incidently was given 18 months before the US entered the war. So? If the US hadn't "stepped up to the plate," the English would be speaking German today IMHO. To help out, even the US gunmaker, Savage Arms, made Mark IV Lee-Enfields for Brit troops. Your HO would be incorrect, Britain saved itself from "speaking German today" by winning the Battle of Britain in the late Summer- Fall of 1939, after which Hitler turned his attentions east toward Russia. It was, as Churchill said, "their finest hour". The US got involved in the war a full year later.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 24, 2014 9:32:41 GMT -5
The only reason that the US keeps its junkyard dog in the ME and brings 'democracy' to ME countries that do not want it is to protect its own oil interests. The EU is doing nothing different from the US, they are also looking after their own interests. The only real difference is that they are not bullsh!tting the world that they are being altruistic or benevolent about it. Israel is doing nothing different from the EU, they are also looking after their own interests. The only real difference is that they are not bullsh!tting the world that they are being altruistic or benevolent about it. The EU has just slaughtered more than 750 Palestinians (and rising)? Wow! You are reinventing history before it's even been made. There is zero, altruistic or benevolent about Israel's actions, thanks for pointing that out.
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Post by Cuchulain on Jul 24, 2014 9:34:30 GMT -5
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Post by aponderer on Jul 24, 2014 9:40:35 GMT -5
So? If the US hadn't "stepped up to the plate," the English would be speaking German today IMHO. To help out, even the US gunmaker, Savage Arms, made Mark IV Lee-Enfields for Brit troops. Your HO would be incorrect, Britain saved itself from "speaking German today" by winning the Battle of Britain in the late Summer- Fall of 1939, after which Hitler turned his attentions east toward Russia. It was, as Churchill said, "their finest hour". The US got involved in the war a full year later. It's true, Hitler screwed up by attacking Russia, but if not for help from the US (and also some from Britain--I believe Britain supplied about 1/3 the materiel that the US did to help Russia), Hitler might have taken Russia. Then Hitler would've turned his attention back to England.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 24, 2014 9:46:17 GMT -5
Your HO would be incorrect, Britain saved itself from "speaking German today" by winning the Battle of Britain in the late Summer- Fall of 1939, after which Hitler turned his attentions east toward Russia. It was, as Churchill said, "their finest hour". The US got involved in the war a full year later. It's true, Hitler screwed up by attacking Russia, but if not for help from the US (and also some from Britain--I believe Britain supplied about 1/3 the materiel that the US did to help Russia), Hitler might have taken Russia. Then Hitler would've turned his attention back to England. "If ifs and and buts were candy and nuts..." The only true fact about the beating of Germany is that neither Britain, nor the US, nor Russia could have achieved it on their own, it took the combined might of all three.
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