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Post by mmmbeer on Jul 31, 2014 17:31:21 GMT -5
Traded E-Rod to Boston for Miller. Matusz's suckiness has cost the Os a prospect. Miller is having a good year & the Os need a reliable LHer in the pen. I'm guessing we can stick a fork in Brian.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 31, 2014 18:43:59 GMT -5
E-Rod had regressed somewhat this year. He had a 4.69 ERA at Double A and was only the No. 3 rated prospect in the Orioles system. He doesn't have electric stuff, and that can be problematic for a lefthander in Fenway.
Getting Miller will certainly shorten games. Now the Orioles can have Miller and O'Day logging the seventh and eighth innings as the matchups dictate.
While we're on the subject of trades, what the hell was Tampa thinking? They didn't get very much, it seems, for David Price. |
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Post by Evil Yoda on Jul 31, 2014 21:24:35 GMT -5
Oakland is clearly in for this year and no farther. They just rented Lester for three months.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 31, 2014 23:19:59 GMT -5
Billy Beane is a very proactive and creative GM who doesn't really worry about the long-term if he thinks he can accomplish what he wants right now. From top to bottom, the A's have arguably the best pitching in the majors right now, but trading Cespedes does leave a bit of a hole in their lineup. Their offense now consists of Josh Donaldson, Brandon Moss and, well, pick somebody. But this is definitely a year of the pitcher and Beane was obviously looking to load up on as many as he could.
Time will tell whether or not the Rays truly got snookered for David Price, but right now it looks like the worst return ever for a former Cy Young winner. Drew Smyly is decent, but he figures to be a middle-of-the-rotation guy at best. Nick Franklin is a switch hitter who doesn't hit particularly well from either side, and Willy Adames is a couple of years away at least. The returns on him are largely positive, but labeling a guy a top Tiger prospect isn't saying much because their system isn't that good overall.
The one team that should have been very busy right up to the deadline did absolutely nothing. Despite an overpaid and underachieving roster that desperately needs to get younger, Phillies GM Ruben chose to sit this one out. He blamed the Phillies' inactivity on other clubs overvaluing their own players, but the Phillies wouldn't have so many bad contracts if Amaro hadn't badly overrated his own players. Years of mortgaging the future to win now has come back to bit the Phils square in the arse. Not only are they expensive and bad at the major league level, but their farm system is now practically bereft of talent. Not the best of both worlds, to be sure.
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Post by Moses on Aug 1, 2014 1:13:12 GMT -5
They need some better bats
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Post by Deleted on Aug 1, 2014 1:18:42 GMT -5
I thought Pittsburgh might be a player as the deadline approached, but they wound up doing nothing. They certainly could have put together a better package for David Price than the Rays ultimately wound up getting.
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Post by mmmbeer on Aug 1, 2014 7:37:33 GMT -5
Kind of interesting that Beane felt that he needed yet more pitching. I guess he felt he didn't have enough top end for the playoffs when they go to a 3 man rotation.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 2, 2014 0:18:12 GMT -5
Brian Roberts was released by the Yankees (just two AB shy of collecting a $250K bonus). Since there isn't much else available, I think the Orioles should consider bringing him back. Schoop's defense has been satisfactory, but he looks completely overmatched at the plate. A .575 OPS is just pathetic. Even if B-Rob hit just .250 with a .300 OBP, it'd be an improvement.
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Post by rentedmule on Aug 2, 2014 4:43:03 GMT -5
Oakland is clearly in for this year and no farther. They just rented Lester for three months. I would never bet against Billy Beane. |
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Post by rentedmule on Aug 2, 2014 4:47:08 GMT -5
Brian Roberts was released by the Yankees (just two AB shy of collecting a $250K bonus). Since there isn't much else available, I think the Orioles should consider bringing him back. Schoop's defense has been satisfactory, but he looks completely overmatched at the plate. A .575 OPS is just pathetic. Even if B-Rob hit just .250 with a .300 OBP, it'd be an improvement. Roberts seems to be very good at cashing payroll checks. As a contributor to a winning TEAM I'm not convinced. |
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Post by mmmbeer on Aug 2, 2014 7:12:42 GMT -5
Brian Roberts was released by the Yankees (just two AB shy of collecting a $250K bonus). Since there isn't much else available, I think the Orioles should consider bringing him back. Schoop's defense has been satisfactory, but he looks completely overmatched at the plate. A .575 OPS is just pathetic. Even if B-Rob hit just .250 with a .300 OBP, it'd be an improvement. interesting idea. Schoop is the future, but Roberts might be a little better for a playoff run, IF he can stay healthy. |
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Post by Evil Yoda on Aug 2, 2014 12:30:04 GMT -5
For some players, hitting is the last thing to mature. It might be that, given time, Schoop will develop in that area. Time AND at-bats. Roberts did good work for this team at a time when they were a punchline, and we shouldn't forget that. But he's the past, now.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 3, 2014 0:53:02 GMT -5
It's interesting to note that of all the teams who made major deadline trades over the years, virtually none ever went on to win the World Series. The Giants got Hunter Pence from the Phillies in 2012, although I'm not sure if that qualifies as a "major" trade. The Giants did, however, win the Series that year. And, of course, there's the famous Brock-for-Broglio swap between the Cards and Cubs in mid-June of 1964, which helped put the Cards on the path toward a Series title. (The Phillies late-season collapse didn't hurt, either.)
Such trades oftentimes merely solidify the buyers' status as contenders. It is worth noting, however, that of the last 20 teams to play in the Series, 13 made a significant deadline acquisition. I guess the real question here is whether a successful trade is defined by winning the Series or merely getting there.
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Post by Evil Yoda on Aug 3, 2014 19:01:17 GMT -5
I do not want Duq to purchase a run now by reducing their chances to contend in the future.
Chant is they're interested in signing Johnson to a minor league deal. I don't get that, either. Johnson did quality work for one year, and mostly quality work the next... but his stint in Oakland strongly suggests that the proverbial fork is in him.
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Post by darave on Aug 27, 2014 7:36:26 GMT -5
I like schoop he is growing into a major leaguer and it helps that Nelson Cruz put him under his wing to teach him about hitting and reading pitchers.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 27, 2014 23:17:41 GMT -5
I like schoop he is growing into a major leaguer and it helps that Nelson Cruz put him under his wing to teach him about hitting and reading pitchers. I'd like to see Cruz stay beyond this season. But I have a feeling he's going to get offers beyond what the Orioles are willing to pay. What concerns me now is Hardy. He's said that he'd like to stay here, but there's a certain team in The Bronx which will be looking for a shortstop this winter and they practically print money. They could certainly make Hardy an offer he couldn't refuse it they decide they want him badly enough. |
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Post by Evil Yoda on Aug 29, 2014 20:08:53 GMT -5
I like schoop he is growing into a major leaguer and it helps that Nelson Cruz put him under his wing to teach him about hitting and reading pitchers. I'd like to see Cruz stay beyond this season. But I have a feeling he's going to get offers beyond what the Orioles are willing to pay. What concerns me now is Hardy. He's said that he'd like to stay here, but there's a certain team in The Bronx which will be looking for a shortstop this winter and they practically print money. They could certainly make Hardy an offer he couldn't refuse it they decide they want him badly enough. Yeah. They'll buy Hardy, and when the time comes, Machado as well.  |
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