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Post by douger on Nov 14, 2013 11:43:04 GMT -5
In some ways, I've got to agree. And while I think Erickson is correct that the only answer will be the full repeal of Obamacare, that's not a viable option. Yet.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 14, 2013 12:39:30 GMT -5
A possible announcement.Actually, doing this probably requires congressional action. Not that such a thing ever mattered to this 'president'.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 14, 2013 13:05:02 GMT -5
So he apparently has now made said announcement. To put it mildly, the insurance companies are not amused but hey, if their actuary tables are now FUBAR'd, well, that is market failure.
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Post by drjohnnyfever on Nov 14, 2013 13:34:43 GMT -5
But...but...obamacare is the settled law of the land? Can't change it....or was that last weeks argument from the dems?
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Post by breakingbad on Nov 14, 2013 14:48:08 GMT -5
So the government is once again going to force the insurance companies to do something they would not do otherwise. This worked really well the last time, didn't it.
What's the worst that can happen? (Don't answer that)
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Post by middleoftheroad on Nov 14, 2013 16:27:09 GMT -5
Wait a minute, I'm confused. I thought the President's job was to enforce the law, not to unilaterally change it. Did I miss something in my High School US Government class?
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Post by douger on Nov 14, 2013 16:56:00 GMT -5
Wait a minute, I'm confused. I thought the President's job was to enforce the law, not to unilaterally change it. Did I miss something in my High School US Government class? "Living" Constitution. Do try to keep up.
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Post by douger on Nov 14, 2013 17:06:43 GMT -5
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Post by Evil Yoda on Nov 14, 2013 17:22:47 GMT -5
The DailyKOS bloggers must be apoplectic! I... I feel another schadengasm approaching!
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Post by douger on Nov 14, 2013 17:27:12 GMT -5
The DailyKOS bloggers must be apoplectic! I... I feel another schadengasm approaching! I'll bet there's some wonderful material to be mined at Democratic Underground. Sorry, but I don't DUmpster dive.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 14, 2013 17:54:46 GMT -5
The DailyKOS bloggers must be apoplectic! I... I feel another schadengasm approaching! It is funny till you realize these people might be serious. It runs from, "If you wait a year then Obamacare might get better!" * to, "Blame the insurance companies for reacting badly to Obama's decree!" ** to, "Some fixes are okay and others aren't!"*** * never mind that they keep saying to wait for it to get better while it keeps getting worse. ** knee jerk fall back plan. The private sector reacting badly to government intervention is market failure *** the democrat plans are good and the republican plans are bad regardless of them being nearly identical
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Post by middleoftheroad on Nov 14, 2013 18:07:46 GMT -5
My question is "how do we see the Republicans screwing this up?". They have been handed the House and the Senate in the mid-term with this latest mistake. All they have to do is continue to point out that they said this was a mistake, that they asked for a year delay in kicking this mess off (and were told "no way").
What will they do to screw this pooch?
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Post by Evil Yoda on Nov 14, 2013 18:08:44 GMT -5
What this reminds me of is the USSR's "five year plans" wherein all planning flowed from Moscow. Thing is, we see that a small group of men is only marginally capable of running a company in a lot of cases, and usually fails to do it ethically. Why, then, would people who have studied history at all think themselves capable of running a sector. The only answer is hubris.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 14, 2013 18:43:25 GMT -5
Is what the president doing now legal?
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Post by douger on Nov 14, 2013 19:01:10 GMT -5
Is what the president doing now legal? It's questionable, Mom. The law itself didn't so narrowly define the requirements of "grandfathered" plans. It's when they wrote the regulations - the law gave the administration authority to do that - is when they set off the plan cancellations. The theory is that all they need to do is rewrite the regs. Mary Landrieu has crafted law to make sure that it's legal. Republicans should simply back away and let Democrats do their best.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 14, 2013 19:04:23 GMT -5
Let the president hang himself.
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Post by douger on Nov 14, 2013 19:05:05 GMT -5
Let the president hang himself. Exactly. And Democrats with them.
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Post by Evil Yoda on Nov 14, 2013 20:36:19 GMT -5
Napoleon said it: "Do not interrupt your enemy when he is making a mistake."
Pretty much all Obama does is make mistakes. Stand back and let him.
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Post by redleg on Nov 15, 2013 9:42:24 GMT -5
What this reminds me of is the USSR's "five year plans" wherein all planning flowed from Moscow. Thing is, we see that a small group of men is only marginally capable of running a company in a lot of cases, and usually fails to do it ethically. Why, then, would people who have studied history at all think themselves capable of running a sector. The only answer is hubris. Therein lies the rub. Most people don't study history at all. And many of those in government that do study history, think THEY can do it better.
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Post by redleg on Nov 15, 2013 9:46:40 GMT -5
Napoleon said it: "Do not interrupt your enemy when he is making a mistake." Pretty much all Obama does is make mistakes. Stand back and let him. The problem is that The Puppet is never attached to any of the mistakes. Even now, the way he words his polemics, it was the insurance companies, the bureaucrats, "the market", or some shadowy "them" that caused the problems, not The Puppet or his magnificent 5 year plan. And the LR media will make sure that that stays the way it is.
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