Black Crime in Baltimore the dirty secret

[howarewegoingtopay]

Crime in Baltimore is dropping like a pile of hot rocks. And Elliott Einbinder knows the reason why: It is hard to get arrested there.

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I know that this is "local" to the forum, but it was posted as national news, and it reflects activities happening in Detroit, and other major cities. Is there anyone here who has personal experience with what is happening in Baltimore?

This article makes it sound really, really bad, including the comments. Is it overblown?

[Evil Yoda]

I go into the city occasionally, but I never stray far from the safe zone: Pratt St. from around the Inner Harbor over to the stadiums. I have not seen much of what is described here. Once I did have a car vandalized when I left it there overnight (kids: don't get so drunk someone else has to drive you home!); I was later told I was lucky it was still there. That was in Fells Point. I wouldn't go outside the few areas of the city where the police are somewhat motivated to keep folks safe (because if those areas went bad the city would suffer a lack of revenue). I won't visit a city business when I can find one comparable outside it.

Seems like Rawlings-Blake's approach might be like the late and un-lamented Pat Jessemy, who basically wouldn't prosecute. She dealt poorly with the four animals who beat Zach Sowers so badly he went into a coma and later died (three of them are now at large again, at least one has re-offended).

The clear message is stay away from the city if you value your life, health and property. I am really glad I made the decision to move far, far away from that cesspool. I can't understand why anyone who could afford to live elsewhere would live there.

[howarewegoingtopay]

Sept 16, 2014 13:42:36 GMT -5 Evil Yoda said:

I go into the city occasionally, but I never stray far from the safe zone: Pratt St. from around the Inner Harbor over to the stadiums. I have not seen much of what is described here. Once I did have a car vandalized when I left it there overnight (kids: don't get so drunk someone else has to drive you home!); I was later told I was lucky it was still there. That was in Fells Point. I wouldn't go outside the few areas of the city where the police are somewhat motivated to keep folks safe (because if those areas went bad the city would suffer a lack of revenue). I won't visit a city business when I can find one comparable outside it.

Seems like Rawlings-Blake's approach might be like the late and un-lamented Pat Jessemy, who basically wouldn't prosecute. She dealt poorly with the four animals who beat Zach Sowers so badly he went into a coma and later died (three of them are now at large again, at least one has re-offended).

The clear message is stay away from the city if you value your life, health and property. I am really glad I made the decision to move far, far away from that cesspool. I can't understand why anyone who could afford to live elsewhere would live there.

Thanks, I have never been to Baltimore, I have only seen the good parts of Detroit (Gross Point etc). But if this is a sign of where urban centers are heading then the cliff is closer than I thought.

[winston]

Sept 16, 2014 14:46:39 GMT -5 howarewegoingtopay said:

Sept 16, 2014 13:42:36 GMT -5 Evil Yoda said:

I go into the city occasionally, but I never stray far from the safe zone: Pratt St. from around the Inner Harbor over to the stadiums. I have not seen much of what is described here. Once I did have a car vandalized when I left it there overnight (kids: don't get so drunk someone else has to drive you home!); I was later told I was lucky it was still there. That was in Fells Point. I wouldn't go outside the few areas of the city where the police are somewhat motivated to keep folks safe (because if those areas went bad the city would suffer a lack of revenue). I won't visit a city business when I can find one comparable outside it.

Seems like Rawlings-Blake's approach might be like the late and un-lamented Pat Jessemy, who basically wouldn't prosecute. She dealt poorly with the four animals who beat Zach Sowers so badly he went into a coma and later died (three of them are now at large again, at least one has re-offended).

The clear message is stay away from the city if you value your life, health and property. I am really glad I made the decision to move far, far away from that cesspool. I can't understand why anyone who could afford to live elsewhere would live there.

Thanks, I have never been to Baltimore, I have only seen the good parts of Detroit (Gross Point etc). But if this is a sign of where urban centers are heading then the cliff is closer than I thought.

Oh, you have never been to Baltimore, and I never been to Detroit.

[rentedmule]

The real crime is committed by those who believe that they are entitled to live in a safe environment. The arrogance..... who do white folk think they are?

[howarewegoingtopay]

Sept 16, 2014 17:08:38 GMT -5 rentedmule said:

The real crime is committed by those who believe that they are entitled to live in a safe environment. The arrogance..... who do white folk think they are?

Have you never heard of White Privilege?

It is the new thing for lefties. They are constantly trying to find reasons to hate themselves.

White privilege (or white skin privilege) is a term for societal privileges, existing in predominantly white societies, that benefit white people beyond what is commonly experienced by non-white people in the same social, political, or economic circumstances.[note 1] The term denotes both obvious and less obvious unspoken advantages that white persons may not recognize they have, which distinguishes it from overt bias or prejudice.[1] These include cultural affirmations of one's own worth; presumed greater social status; and freedom to move, buy, work, play, and speak freely.[2] The concept of white privilege also implies the right to assume the universality of one's own experiences, marking others as different or exceptional while perceiving oneself as normal.[3][4] It can be compared to and/or combined with the concept of male privilege.

[winston]

Sept 16, 2014 17:32:27 GMT -5 howarewegoingtopay said:

Sept 16, 2014 17:08:38 GMT -5 rentedmule said:

The real crime is committed by those who believe that they are entitled to live in a safe environment. The arrogance..... who do white folk think they are?

Have you never heard of White Privilege?

It is the new thing for lefties. They are constantly trying to find reasons to hate themselves.

White privilege (or white skin privilege) is a term for societal privileges, existing in predominantly white societies, that benefit white people beyond what is commonly experienced by non-white people in the same social, political, or economic circumstances.[note 1] The term denotes both obvious and less obvious unspoken advantages that white persons may not recognize they have, which distinguishes it from overt bias or prejudice.[1] These include cultural affirmations of one's own worth; presumed greater social status; and freedom to move, buy, work, play, and speak freely.[2] The concept of white privilege also implies the right to assume the universality of one's own experiences, marking others as different or exceptional while perceiving oneself as normal.[3][4] It can be compared to and/or combined with the concept of male privilege.

[rentedmule]

Traditionally "cities" were prosperous because they were centers of order, rule of law, and all energy was directed towards production and commerce and intellect. "Outsiders" who emigrated to the city were expected to conform or be banished. Now? Those who live in cities Must accept the "urban culture" of violence and lawlessness or face the charge of arrogance.

[winston]

Sept 17, 2014 5:15:07 GMT -5 rentedmule said:

Traditionally "cities" were prosperous because they were centers of order, rule of law, and all energy was directed towards production and commerce and intellect. "Outsiders" who emigrated to the city were expected to conform or be banished. Now? Those who live in cities Must accept the "urban culture" of violence and lawlessness or face the charge of arrogance.

And a Major Drug problem

[vosa]

Sept 17, 2014 8:35:14 GMT -5 winston said:

Sept 17, 2014 5:15:07 GMT -5 rentedmule said:

Traditionally "cities" were prosperous because they were centers of order, rule of law, and all energy was directed towards production and commerce and intellect. "Outsiders" who emigrated to the city were expected to conform or be banished. Now? Those who live in cities Must accept the "urban culture" of violence and lawlessness or face the charge of arrogance.

And a Major Drug problem

If drugs were legalized to a large extent the drug problem, including all those collateral problems, would go away.

For the money we spend on enforcing drug laws we could fund one hell of a treatment program for those who wanted to kick the habit.

[howarewegoingtopay]

Sept 18, 2014 15:38:07 GMT -5 vosa said:

Sept 17, 2014 8:35:14 GMT -5 winston said:

And a Major Drug problem

If drugs were legalized to a large extent the drug problem, including all those collateral problems, would go away.

For the money we spend on enforcing drug laws we could fund one hell of a treatment program for those who wanted to kick the habit.

It would be nice, but frankly will probably never happen. Drug dealers do not want it legal (they would lose profit), politicians do not want it legal (no more bribe money), feel good types worry about those who will drug overdose so they don't want it legal, law enforcement doesn't want it legal (most would be out of a job). Frankly the only people who want it legal are the drug users, and those who believe in personal responsibility (a really small number there).

I am amazed that prohibition was repealed. 

[redleg]

Sept 18, 2014 15:50:43 GMT -5 howarewegoingtopay said:

Sept 18, 2014 15:38:07 GMT -5 vosa said:

If drugs were legalized to a large extent the drug problem, including all those collateral problems, would go away.

For the money we spend on enforcing drug laws we could fund one hell of a treatment program for those who wanted to kick the habit.

It would be nice, but frankly will probably never happen. Drug dealers do not want it legal (they would lose profit), politicians do not want it legal (no more bribe money), feel good types worry about those who will drug overdose so they don't want it legal, law enforcement doesn't want it legal (most would be out of a job). Frankly the only people who want it legal are the drug users, and those who believe in personal responsibility (a really small number there).

I am amazed that prohibition was repealed. 

And since it was repealed, and nothing else to amend the Constitution, how is it illegal at the Federal level?

[aboutwell]

Sept 16, 2014 16:56:21 GMT -5 winston said:

Sept 16, 2014 14:46:39 GMT -5 howarewegoingtopay said:

Thanks, I have never been to Baltimore, I have only seen the good parts of Detroit (Gross Point etc). But if this is a sign of where urban centers are heading then the cliff is closer than I thought.

Oh, you have never been to Baltimore, and I never been to Detroit.

You guys don't get out much... there are good places and bad places in all the big cities... including Baltimore and Detroit... and I've been to all of 'em... 

[rocketwolf]

Of course.

[aboutwell]

Just sayin'... you want a list?... 

[darave]

this is a breakdown of law enforcement if you do the crime you serve the time. Lock these animals up if they can't behave themselves.

[rocketwolf]

Sept 23, 2014 7:38:13 GMT -5 aboutwell said:

Just sayin'... you want a list?... 

of course

[aboutwell]

Sept 23, 2014 18:54:05 GMT -5 rocketwolf said:

Sept 23, 2014 7:38:13 GMT -5 aboutwell said:

Just sayin'... you want a list?... 

of course

Okay... where you want to start?... San Diego?... Seattle?... Portland (ME)... or Miami?... 

[Evil Yoda]

Get a map of Baltimore. Cut out the Inner Harbor, Harbor East, Little Italy, and over to the stadia.

Now you have a map of the bad parts of town.

[vosa]

Tell me this isn't also true...

"Black privilege (or Black skin privilege) is a term for societal privileges, existing in predominantly Black societies, that benefit Black people beyond what is commonly experienced by non-Black people in the same social, political, or economic circumstances.[note 1] The term denotes both obvious and less obvious unspoken advantages that Black persons may not recognize they have, which distinguishes it from overt bias or prejudice.[1] These include cultural affirmations of one's own worth; presumed greater social status; and freedom to move, buy, work, play, and speak freely.[2] The concept of Black privilege also implies the right to assume the universality of one's own experiences, marking others as different or exceptional while perceiving oneself as normal.[3][4] It can be compared to and/or combined with the concept of male privilege."

[rocketwolf]

Sept 23, 2014 20:06:01 GMT -5 aboutwell said:

Sept 23, 2014 18:54:05 GMT -5 rocketwolf said:

of course

Okay... where you want to start?... San Diego?... Seattle?... Portland (ME)... or Miami?... 

I guess

you can pick the city with the greatest number of important people you know or have given advice too.

[aboutwell]

Sept 24, 2014 10:58:27 GMT -5 Evil Yoda said:

Get a map of Baltimore. Cut out the Inner Harbor, Harbor East, Little Italy, and over to the stadia.

Now you have a map of the bad parts of town.

(No................ I'm not gonna say where I have walked alone late at night in Baltimore...)