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Post by cyclegeek on Oct 29, 2014 5:17:37 GMT -5
On the one had, as I tend to lean more conservative, I'd like to see the Pubs take over Congress. But I have my doubts about what they'll do or get done. But it'll be so sweet to see all the Lib heads exploding. Oh, and we'll get the added benefit of seeing the obstructionist President as he vetoes bill after bill after bill. Naturally the mainstream media will fail to report on any of that.
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Post by rentedmule on Oct 29, 2014 6:18:53 GMT -5
I sheepishly admit that I love a 'do nothing congress' and an 'obstructionist' president. I'm fond of Sonny Bono's answer to the question; what sir do you hope to accomplish in Congress..... "as little as possible".
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Post by aboutwell on Oct 29, 2014 7:24:28 GMT -5
The last time Republicans controlled the Congress... and had the White House... for any length of time was in the 1920's... the "Roaring 20's"... roaring right down the track to 1929... it not only could, but would happen again... but it would be much worse in these times than it was back then...
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Post by rentedmule on Oct 29, 2014 7:46:29 GMT -5
The last time Republicans controlled the Congress... and had the White House... for any length of time was in the 1920's... the "Roaring 20's"... roaring right down the track to 1929... it not only could, but would happen again... but it would be much worse in these times than it was back then... If you assign the 1929 financial disaster to the Coolidge/Harding administration go for it! Most statists do also. Cooler heads understand that that 'prosperity' was brought about by slashing the federal budget and turning OFF the spigot of unbridled immigration. The esteemed Maynard Keynes spent the "Roaring Twenties" in a total funk because the US executed the opposite of what He proposed while England was mired in an economic malaise so bad that they did even notice the world wide depression of the 1930's. The 1920's was the last time the Republicans ever cut the federal budget. They have never shown any inclination to do so since.
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Post by cyclegeek on Oct 29, 2014 7:54:40 GMT -5
The last time Republicans controlled the Congress... and had the White House... for any length of time was in the 1920's... the "Roaring 20's"... roaring right down the track to 1929... it not only could, but would happen again... but it would be much worse in these times than it was back then... Damn, where can I get one of those crystal balls?!
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Post by davinci on Oct 29, 2014 8:09:24 GMT -5
On the one had, as I tend to lean more conservative, I'd like to see the Pubs take over Congress. But I have my doubts about what they'll do or get done. But it'll be so sweet to see all the Lib heads exploding. Oh, and we'll get the added benefit of seeing the obstructionist President as he vetoes bill after bill after bill. Naturally the mainstream media will fail to report on any of that. Damn, where can I get one of those crystal balls?!
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Post by redleg on Oct 29, 2014 19:41:51 GMT -5
On the one had, as I tend to lean more conservative, I'd like to see the Pubs take over Congress. But I have my doubts about what they'll do or get done. But it'll be so sweet to see all the Lib heads exploding. Oh, and we'll get the added benefit of seeing the obstructionist President as he vetoes bill after bill after bill. Naturally the mainstream media will fail to report on any of that. The problem is, we get Boehner and McConnell back, along with a host of other Republicrats. They have no intention of 'rocking the boat', because they want to be invited to the "right" parties, and continue to get kickbacks like the Dems do.
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Post by redleg on Oct 29, 2014 19:45:09 GMT -5
The last time Republicans controlled the Congress... and had the White House... for any length of time was in the 1920's... the "Roaring 20's"... roaring right down the track to 1929... it not only could, but would happen again... but it would be much worse in these times than it was back then... Really? Since the Dems have controlled Congress, and the Presidency, we have gotten $17 trillion in debt, no economic growth, record numbers on food stamps, disability, and welfare, record numbers no longer in the workforce, world wide depression, ISIS, Russia attacking Europe, China dominating the Pacific and getting more truculent, Ebola in the US, invasions of illegals, crime higher than any time in the last 20 years, Benghazi, and our own government attacking innocent citizens, and using the power of the illegal Federal state to destroy anyone that disagrees with them. All part of The Puppet's and the Democrat's agenda.
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Post by aboutwell on Oct 29, 2014 20:23:49 GMT -5
The last time Republicans controlled the Congress... and had the White House... for any length of time was in the 1920's... the "Roaring 20's"... roaring right down the track to 1929... it not only could, but would happen again... but it would be much worse in these times than it was back then... Really? Since the Dems have controlled Congress, and the Presidency, we have gotten $17 trillion in debt, no economic growth, record numbers on food stamps, disability, and welfare, record numbers no longer in the workforce, world wide depression, ISIS, Russia attacking Europe, China dominating the Pacific and getting more truculent, Ebola in the US, invasions of illegals, crime higher than any time in the last 20 years, Benghazi, and our own government attacking innocent citizens, and using the power of the illegal Federal state to destroy anyone that disagrees with them. All part of The Puppet's and the Democrat's agenda. You sure you didn't miss something?...
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Post by redleg on Oct 30, 2014 23:58:53 GMT -5
Really? Since the Dems have controlled Congress, and the Presidency, we have gotten $17 trillion in debt, no economic growth, record numbers on food stamps, disability, and welfare, record numbers no longer in the workforce, world wide depression, ISIS, Russia attacking Europe, China dominating the Pacific and getting more truculent, Ebola in the US, invasions of illegals, crime higher than any time in the last 20 years, Benghazi, and our own government attacking innocent citizens, and using the power of the illegal Federal state to destroy anyone that disagrees with them. All part of The Puppet's and the Democrat's agenda. You sure you didn't miss something?... Miss? No. I didn't list everything, because pages and pages wouldn't fit in this forum.
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Post by rentedmule on Oct 31, 2014 6:54:26 GMT -5
The last time Republicans controlled the Congress... and had the White House... for any length of time was in the 1920's... the "Roaring 20's"... roaring right down the track to 1929... it not only could, but would happen again... but it would be much worse in these times than it was back then... Really? Since the Dems have controlled Congress, and the Presidency, we have gotten $17 trillion in debt, no economic growth, record numbers on food stamps, disability, and welfare, record numbers no longer in the workforce, world wide depression, ISIS, Russia attacking Europe, China dominating the Pacific and getting more truculent, Ebola in the US, invasions of illegals, crime higher than any time in the last 20 years, Benghazi, and our own government attacking innocent citizens, and using the power of the illegal Federal state to destroy anyone that disagrees with them. All part of The Puppet's and the Democrat's agenda. The Only time the federal budget was 'slashed' was in my lifetime it was a Democrat administration. Sorry, but posturing and administering are Not the same thing. Please show us a fed budget decrease under a Republican administration since Harding/Coolidge?
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Post by howarewegoingtopay on Oct 31, 2014 7:21:37 GMT -5
Really? Since the Dems have controlled Congress, and the Presidency, we have gotten $17 trillion in debt, no economic growth, record numbers on food stamps, disability, and welfare, record numbers no longer in the workforce, world wide depression, ISIS, Russia attacking Europe, China dominating the Pacific and getting more truculent, Ebola in the US, invasions of illegals, crime higher than any time in the last 20 years, Benghazi, and our own government attacking innocent citizens, and using the power of the illegal Federal state to destroy anyone that disagrees with them. All part of The Puppet's and the Democrat's agenda. The Only time the federal budget was 'slashed' was in my lifetime it was a Democrat administration. Sorry, but posturing and administering are Not the same thing. Please show us a fed budget decrease under a Republican administration since Harding/Coolidge? So who was this magician which slashed and decreased the federal budget? All I ever see is EVERY president raises the national debt EVERY year. Seems the most they attempt is to reduce the increases and call that a cut.
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Post by rentedmule on Oct 31, 2014 7:33:02 GMT -5
The Only time the federal budget was 'slashed' was in my lifetime it was a Democrat administration. Sorry, but posturing and administering are Not the same thing. Please show us a fed budget decrease under a Republican administration since Harding/Coolidge? So who was this magician which slashed and decreased the federal budget? All I ever see is EVERY president raises the national debt EVERY year. Seems the most they attempt is to reduce the increases and call that a cut. Yeah, reducing the 'proposed' budget represents a "cut" according to government speak! The last time a decrease occurred was under Harry Truman. Since then it's been lots of posturing but there always seems to a very good reason for raising spending! In the 1950's it was the 'cold war', in the sixties guns AND butter, in the 70's the collapse of settled science (Keyensianism), in the 80's "deficits don't matter". In the 90's the bubble was 'this time it's different' and in the 2000's just plain confusion!
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Post by redleg on Oct 31, 2014 7:56:27 GMT -5
Really? Since the Dems have controlled Congress, and the Presidency, we have gotten $17 trillion in debt, no economic growth, record numbers on food stamps, disability, and welfare, record numbers no longer in the workforce, world wide depression, ISIS, Russia attacking Europe, China dominating the Pacific and getting more truculent, Ebola in the US, invasions of illegals, crime higher than any time in the last 20 years, Benghazi, and our own government attacking innocent citizens, and using the power of the illegal Federal state to destroy anyone that disagrees with them. All part of The Puppet's and the Democrat's agenda. The Only time the federal budget was 'slashed' was in my lifetime it was a Democrat administration. Sorry, but posturing and administering are Not the same thing. Please show us a fed budget decrease under a Republican administration since Harding/Coolidge? The budget is not only a problem because of size, but because of where the money goes. Today the money is going to "green" energy scams, welfare, food stamps, disability payments, Puppettax, and Muslim terrorist organizations. At least Reagan's deficits were largely used to rebuild the military that Carter had torn down.
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Post by aboutwell on Oct 31, 2014 9:05:17 GMT -5
The Only time the federal budget was 'slashed' was in my lifetime it was a Democrat administration. Sorry, but posturing and administering are Not the same thing. Please show us a fed budget decrease under a Republican administration since Harding/Coolidge? The budget is not only a problem because of size, but because of where the money goes. Today the money is going to "green" energy scams, welfare, food stamps, disability payments, Puppettax, and Muslim terrorist organizations. At least Reagan's deficits were largely used to rebuild the military that Carter had torn down. After the war in SEA, the need for a huge military was no longer needed... until Reagan wanted to build it up and find somebody to provoke or kill...
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Post by redleg on Nov 1, 2014 12:21:00 GMT -5
The budget is not only a problem because of size, but because of where the money goes. Today the money is going to "green" energy scams, welfare, food stamps, disability payments, Puppettax, and Muslim terrorist organizations. At least Reagan's deficits were largely used to rebuild the military that Carter had torn down. After the war in SEA, the need for a huge military was no longer needed... until Reagan wanted to build it up and find somebody to provoke or kill... Really? You mean China and the USSR were not really there after VN? We had no enemies after we left VN? You see what happens, today, when Dems decide to gut the military in favor of social engineering and buying votes. We are in a war that the Dems refuse to acknowledge, and are gutting the military again. Which is why we have ISIS, China growing her influence, and Russia attacking Europe.
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Post by Evil Yoda on Nov 1, 2014 22:34:20 GMT -5
My ideal scenario is for one party to control Congress and the other the Executive. I prefer this because Federal actions rarely benefit me and often harm me. Local and occasionally state level government addresses almost all of my governmental needs. So deadlock is what I seek.
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Post by redleg on Nov 3, 2014 11:26:55 GMT -5
My ideal scenario is for one party to control Congress and the other the Executive. I prefer this because Federal actions rarely benefit me and often harm me. Local and occasionally state level government addresses almost all of my governmental needs. So deadlock is what I seek. The problem with the Federal Congress this time around is, even the Pubs in "leadership" positions are essentially Marxist Democrats. Boehner, McConnell, the House Whip (I don't remember his name right now), all are simply Dems with an "R". To get real change, and get us back on the correct course, we need to completely clean House. And Senate. Even the NYT is now calling for an end to mid terms, because they see the danger to the current regime if enough conservatives get in Congress.
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