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Post by douger on Nov 19, 2013 11:42:37 GMT -5
If it walks like a duck and quacks like a duck... This confirms my faith in government. I'm not suggesting for a moment that Obama or his staff had any direct connection. I'll leave that to redleg and that crowd. What I am suggesting is that when you have a leadership that tolerates sloppiness and deception, it sets a tone for the organization.
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Post by rocketwolf on Nov 19, 2013 12:30:34 GMT -5
When you have a leader that lies, then corner cutting and lies can be expected further down the line.
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Post by howarewegoingtopay on Nov 19, 2013 12:39:09 GMT -5
At what point do the number of lies told by Obama to get elected cause us to kick him out? Fraud should be a crime for politicians as well as business.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 19, 2013 12:42:22 GMT -5
Or it could simply be a case of a guy who got caught doing something wrong trying to divert blame to save his own ass.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 19, 2013 15:27:31 GMT -5
When you have a leader that lies, then corner cutting and lies can be expected further down the line. Leading by example.
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Post by rocketwolf on Nov 19, 2013 17:18:05 GMT -5
Well Obumble is a good example of a bad president
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Post by Evil Yoda on Nov 19, 2013 17:27:16 GMT -5
I doubt Obama had anything to do with it. Could have been someone trying to make him look good in the run-up to the election, on their own initiative. But it could also have been someone who just isn't very capable and did a half-assed job. Fire 'em, strip their retirement and move on.
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Post by rocketwolf on Nov 19, 2013 17:28:40 GMT -5
Agree on all counts yoda
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Post by stevez51 on Nov 19, 2013 17:33:49 GMT -5
Say it aint so Joe....
Always wondered how unemployment claims can increase without job growth and number could go down. Of course the workers leaving the job market thing also counts.
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Post by kemmer on Nov 19, 2013 22:19:18 GMT -5
So, employees in yet another federal department actively working to keep Democrats in office.
Makes sense. Likely, they are thinking of pay raises, pension benefits, superior health care coverage-- not to mention the extravagant parties they regularly throw themselves with taxpayer money. What's a little bit of fraud if it keeps the gravy train on track?
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Post by Ranger John on Nov 19, 2013 23:03:21 GMT -5
Or it could simply be a case of a guy who got caught doing something wrong trying to divert blame to save his own ass. Oh, I'm sure that's what it is. The only question is whether that guy is a drone at the Census Bureau, or his last name is Obama.
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Post by redleg on Nov 20, 2013 9:43:46 GMT -5
If it walks like a duck and quacks like a duck... This confirms my faith in government. I'm not suggesting for a moment that Obama or his staff had any direct connection. I'll leave that to redleg and that crowd. What I am suggesting is that when you have a leadership that tolerates sloppiness and deception, it sets a tone for the organization. As I've said before, there is not a single document linking Hitler to the Holocaust. He just put people positions of power that would do what he wanted without him telling them. Although, he did tell them through the rhetoric he used in his speeches. The Puppet did the same thing. He just puts people in charge of regulatory agencies that are more than willing to commit crimes, ignore or make up data, or write regulations that do what he wants done without him having to tell them what to do. In that light, he did indeed have a direct connection. He just didn't exercise direct control.
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Post by redleg on Nov 20, 2013 9:46:07 GMT -5
I doubt Obama had anything to do with it. Could have been someone trying to make him look good in the run-up to the election, on their own initiative. But it could also have been someone who just isn't very capable and did a half-assed job. Fire 'em, strip their retirement and move on.Had it been an investment firm, or an insurance company that had been this incompetent, do you think The Puppet and his obergauliter Holder would simply allow them to be fired? Or would there be a Soviet style show trial, and years in prison for him?
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Post by drjohnnyfever on Nov 20, 2013 11:24:30 GMT -5
Or it could simply be a case of a guy who got caught doing something wrong trying to divert blame to save his own ass. Oh, I'm sure that's what it is. The only question is whether that guy is a drone at the Census Bureau, or his last name is Obama. Barry and his minions weaponized the epa (gibson guitars, anyone) and the irs-no surprise they'd do the same with the census.
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Post by rocketwolf on Nov 20, 2013 15:25:39 GMT -5
Oh, I'm sure that's what it is. The only question is whether that guy is a drone at the Census Bureau, or his last name is Obama. Barry and his minions weaponized the epa (gibson guitars, anyone) and the irs-no surprise they'd do the same with the census. No surprise at all
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Post by Ranger John on Nov 20, 2013 17:41:12 GMT -5
Oh, I'm sure that's what it is. The only question is whether that guy is a drone at the Census Bureau, or his last name is Obama. Barry and his minions weaponized the epa (gibson guitars, anyone) and the irs-no surprise they'd do the same with the census. Don't forget the "Justice" Department. And of course his personal assassination-drone program.
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Post by howarewegoingtopay on Nov 20, 2013 19:01:12 GMT -5
Well he does seem to be trying to keep his campaign promise of fundamentally changing America. Used to be our leaders tried to follow our laws (most of the time), or at least they hid their corruption better.
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