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Post by Evil Yoda on Jan 26, 2015 18:44:22 GMT -5
ARod has a separate marketing contract or deal which could pay him as much as $30MM. He's already apparently collected $6MM and is due another $6MM if he hits six more home runs to tie Willie Mays. Other marks are tying Ruth (714), Aaron (755) and Bonds (762). The Yankees claim this "home run chase" is irrecoverably tainted by the Biogenesis incident and suspension and for that reason is not a good marketing tool. I imagine ARod would file a grievance and the MLBPA would defend him. Practically speaking I don't see him collecting the final $18MM, unless he goes back on the juice. And I'll bet MLB told him he's done forever if he gets caught again. Which would potentially forfeit a lot of money. Hell, if I were him I'd be real careful about eating or drinking anything given to me by a Yankees employee!  Article |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 27, 2015 1:40:50 GMT -5
Any failure to recognize any statistical milestone will likely trigger a grievance from the players association, particularly since Rodriguez is only six homeruns away from tying Mays.
The Yankees obviously want A-Rod like they want leprosy; they would be much better served by simply releasing him and paying the balance of his contract. |
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Post by Evil Yoda on Jan 27, 2015 10:54:24 GMT -5
I wonder if his contract specifically states "play baseball" is his responsibility? Or could they make him the manager of their short-season "A" affiliate? |
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Post by Evil Yoda on Jan 27, 2015 14:17:13 GMT -5
Any failure to recognize any statistical milestone will likely trigger a grievance from the players association, particularly since Rodriguez is only six homeruns away from tying Mays. The union would have to object; they don't want to establish the dangerous precedent that incentives depend on more than what is written in the contract, i.e. a team's one-sided decision that the incentive does not provide the anticipated benefit. That would make incentive clauses far less interesting to players, and if the union lost such a grievance, a likely consequence would be a general recommendation to players against accepting such clauses. That would make negotiating less flexible. It might even cost older players and players trying to come back from serious injuries a chance to play again. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 27, 2015 14:52:25 GMT -5
Any failure to recognize any statistical milestone will likely trigger a grievance from the players association, particularly since Rodriguez is only six homeruns away from tying Mays. The union would have to object; they don't want to establish the dangerous precedent that incentives depend on more than what is written in the contract, i.e. a team's one-sided decision that the incentive does not provide the anticipated benefit. That would make incentive clauses far less interesting to players, and if the union lost such a grievance, a likely consequence would be a general recommendation to players against accepting such clauses. That would make negotiating less flexible. It might even cost older players and players trying to come back from serious injuries a chance to play again. Yes, should this ever go to arbitration, the Yankees are going to have to demonstrate that their reluctance to pay is nothing more than a vendetta.
Most incentives are typically a little more defined, such as x amount to a pitcher for winning the Cy Young Award, reaching 20 wins, or a hitter leading the league in batting or finishing in the top 5 or 10 of a particular statistical category. In such cases, there's no return benefit which can be defined at the club's discretion; the statistics alone demonstrate whether or not the player reached the desired threshold.
In cases of players coming back from injury, such incentive clauses are usually tied to a player's health and durability, such as inning pitched or plate appearances. Players such as these usually don't have to lead the league in anything; they just need to demonstrate that they've recovered fully enough to make a meaningful contribution.
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Post by Evil Yoda on Jan 27, 2015 15:26:50 GMT -5
Most incentives are typically a little more defined, such as x amount to a pitcher for winning the Cy Young Award, reaching 20 wins, or a hitter leading the league in batting or finishing in the top 5 or 10 of a particular statistical category. In such cases, there's no return benefit which can be defined at the club's discretion; the statistics alone demonstrate whether or not the player reached the desired threshold. Without having read the contract, it's hard to say whether the Yankees have a leg to stand on. But if the contract simply says, "he gets $6MM for tying Mays, and $6MM for tying Ruth, and..." then they don't have a leg to stand on. I doubt seriously there's language in there that tries to define the marketing benefit the Yankees expect to gain from such a home run chase, because how would one define that? In other words, I suspect this incentive contract is as cut and dried as the types you have mentioned. And yet, the Yankees or their lawyers must believe they have some way to convince an arbitrator to void it. The alternative, I suppose, is that they are simply trying to harass ARod, but that seems a rather poor tactic. His defense is probably already covered by his union dues, which means this action will cost the Yankees more than it costs him. And it's going to piss off the union, which they don't need. All they can really hope to get out of this is a participation ribbon. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 27, 2015 15:35:49 GMT -5
Most incentives are typically a little more defined, such as x amount to a pitcher for winning the Cy Young Award, reaching 20 wins, or a hitter leading the league in batting or finishing in the top 5 or 10 of a particular statistical category. In such cases, there's no return benefit which can be defined at the club's discretion; the statistics alone demonstrate whether or not the player reached the desired threshold. Without having read the contract, it's hard to say whether the Yankees have a leg to stand on. But if the contract simply says, "he gets $6MM for tying Mays, and $6MM for tying Ruth, and..." then they don't have a leg to stand on. I doubt seriously there's language in there that tries to define the marketing benefit the Yankees expect to gain from such a home run chase, because how would one define that? In other words, I suspect this incentive contract is as cut and dried as the types you have mentioned. And yet, the Yankees or their lawyers must believe they have some way to convince an arbitrator to void it. The alternative, I suppose, is that they are simply trying to harass ARod, but that seems a rather poor tactic. His defense is probably already covered by his union dues, which means this action will cost the Yankees more than it costs him. And it's going to piss off the union, which they don't need. All they can really hope to get out of this is a participation ribbon. As I said, it's time for the Yankees to just release A-Rod and eat the remainder of his contract. Yes, it's a considerable amount, but the relationship between he and the team has gotten so poisonous there's little chance of it ever being remedied at this point. It's a distraction that Girardi and the other players simply don't need. |
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Post by davinci on Jan 28, 2015 9:55:53 GMT -5
Not a big A-Rod fan, but I think he should get the bonuses if he reaches the milestones. If the Yankees think they have a case for not paying them, they ought to feel the same about not paying his whole contract and challenge that.
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Post by Evil Yoda on Jan 28, 2015 13:20:02 GMT -5
Not a big A-Rod fan, but I think he should get the bonuses if he reaches the milestones. If the Yankees think they have a case for not paying them, they ought to feel the same about not paying his whole contract and challenge that. It somewhat surprises me that teams have not challenged PED players' contracts as fraudulent; the idea being that they bought the player's services thinking he was legal. Of course, there is an obvious scenario in which such a challenge (which the union would certainly oppose) is dangerous to the team. |
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Post by Evil Yoda on Apr 14, 2015 15:02:02 GMT -5
According to the radio sports this morning (98Rock), ARod and his hoped-for achievements do not appear on the Yankees' media guide cards. These cards contain information about players' recent accomplishments and near milestones, meant to fuel color commentary during broadcasts. Although he is quite close to the Mays milestone the Yankees are saying nothing about it, officially.  I don't want that steroid-soaked ass to pass anyone else. But at the same time I'd find it amusing if the Yankees had to cut him another $6,000,000 per the terms of their deal. |
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Post by Evil Yoda on Apr 18, 2015 12:10:50 GMT -5
ARod inches closer to the Mays mark...
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Post by Evil Yoda on May 2, 2015 13:07:58 GMT -5
That will be $6,000,000, Yanks! ARod gets the bonus for tying Mays' home run tally with his 660th. The Yankees do have the right under the contract to decide if the event is marketable or not, but as they publicized it on the official website with footage and an article I would say they're using it for marketing already. Therefore: pay the repulsive roider what you owe him. Good news for you: the chance of him passing the next marker, Ruth (714) is not high. That's 54 off, so it's probably not going to happen this year if it happens at all. Steroid-abuse era ARod might have done it; he managed 57 one season about ten years ago, but (supposedly) steroid-free and ten years older ARod won't. His HR production for the five years prior to last year's suspension is 30, 30, 16, 18 and 7. |
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