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Post by Deleted on Jun 20, 2015 23:31:36 GMT -5
But unfortunately, the Nats' ace then hit pinch-hitter Jose Tabata with a 2-2 slider to ruin his perfect game, although he did retire the next hitter to preserve the no-no.
In his last two starts, Scherzer has worked 18 innings, retired 54 out of 57 batters and struck out 26. Not too shabby.
There was some discussion on the radio this evening as to whether or not it was a bush league move by Tabata to appear to try and get hit with the pitch (and replays did seem to confirm that he didn't knock himself out trying to get out of the way), particularly in a 6-0 ballgame. Myself, I don't have an issue with it (and Scherzer stated after the game that he had no problem with it). A batter's job--be he the first hitter of the game or the last potential out of a perfect game--is to get on base. You do it any way you can. Scherzer said afterward that he didn't have a problem with it.
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Post by aboutwell on Jun 21, 2015 0:14:54 GMT -5
A real shame to lose a perfect game because someone gets hit by a pitch... been a while since the last no-hitter too...
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Post by Evil Yoda on Jun 21, 2015 10:36:05 GMT -5
I like to say players at least make an effort to get out of the way, but that's a judgement call. (The umpire does not have to award a base; he makes a decision about whether the batter tried to get out of the way or not, but for practical purposes, they always do. I'd like to see them stop awarding bases to hitters so barely grazed they have to go to replay to be sure.)
Pitchers try to come inside to claim the plate and handcuff hitters and sometimes it doesn't work. If getting a perfect game was easy a lot more pitchers would have have them. The likelihood is Scherzer will be in the Hall one day, and yesterday was another demonstration of that talent. We Orioles fans have to root for those kinds of players elsewhere since we'll never have one here for the foreseeable future.
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Post by mmmbeer on Jun 21, 2015 16:40:12 GMT -5
not a pitcher but, if his knees stay healthy, Manny will be a Hall caliber player.
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Post by Evil Yoda on Jun 21, 2015 16:53:17 GMT -5
not a pitcher but, if his knees stay healthy, Manny will be a Hall caliber player. He's certainly looking like it. In a few years you will see him wearing pinstripes.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 22, 2015 0:35:44 GMT -5
not a pitcher but, if his knees stay healthy, Manny will be a Hall caliber player. He's certainly looking like it. In a few years you will see him wearing pinstripes. If the Orioles don't get something done with Machado after this season at the latest, I doubt if it ever gets done. Right now it's sort of a Catch-22 since the Orioles are hesitant about health issues and Machado has every incentive to go through an entire season without injury. If he does so and demonstrates that his power is indeed developing, probably the best the Orioles can hope for is a shorter deal that will simply buy out Machado's arbitration years.
If extension talks are initiated, I think whether or not the two sides can come to an agreement depends on what recent deals Machado's agents try and use as a bellwether. If they try and start out at the seven years and $100 million Seattle's Kyle Seager signed this offseason--and that seemed a bit of a stretch--I don't think the Orioles will go that far. If he's willing to accept something maybe in the range of Adam Jones' extension--six years/$85 million--then perhaps they can sign him.
Machado is in a rather perplexing position here as well--he's a high-ceiling prospect and could certainly break the bank if he stays healthy and continues to develop. Yet there's always the specter of his knees giving out again, so some paycheck certainty might be in his best interests instead of rolling the dice on free agency. Macado's only 23, so even with a six-year deal now he'd still be in his physical prime when he becomes free-agent eligible.
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Post by Evil Yoda on Jun 22, 2015 14:28:50 GMT -5
The Orioles were burned by Belle and Roberts on health. I can certainly see how that would make them interested in getting a thorough medical evaluation, and it's likely why they passed on re-signing Markakis. With two knee rebuilds Manny is a bit of a health question mark. But men do get hurt playing professional sports because they're usually playing near their physical limits, and sometimes they surpass those with unfortunate results. If the team is never going to take a chance because someone might get hurt or was once hurt then the owner needs to sell; he hasn't the courage for this kind of enterprise.
To me, Peter Angelos' actions over the span of his ownership period have sufficiently demonstrated that winning is unimportant to him. He'll take it if he can get it, but it's a bonus, not a goal. Baseball is a revenue engine, not a passion. His tight budgets and the fact that he chose as his GM (yeah, I know the Orioles don't call it that) a man who signs low-risk, low-cost guys tend to bear this out. We know he could spend a great deal more if he chose to; he's got MASN money pouring into his coffers. I don't know, any longer, how much Peter is doing and how much John is doing. If he's smart he's letting John do most of it, so he can learn while Peter can still teach him. (I believe Louis is mostly involved with the law firm.) Nor do I know whether John has similar attitudes to his father. I'd guess we won't know that until Peter dies and we see what John does without his father's supervision.
I believe as long as Peter owns the club, they will never have a superstar playing for them. Those guys cost a lot of money. If Manny is likely to command a large contract, and Peter is still in the picture, someone else will be signing those checks. Manny's friends with ARod, apparently. Is that because he wants to be a Yankee? Because ARod wants him to be one? Or neither? Who knows. But that's the admittedly slim basis for my comments that he'll wear pinstripes. It could as easily be Detroit, Boston or Los Angeles.
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