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Post by Evil Yoda on Nov 22, 2015 16:44:21 GMT -5
Forsett is done with a broken arm. Flacco is done with a torn ACL and possibly other ligament(s). Schefter's TwitterOne must wonder if Williams has restarted his bounty for injuries program in St. Louis. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 22, 2015 21:45:08 GMT -5
There was certainly nothing dirty about the hit on Forsett, and Flacco appeared to have his left leg rolled up by one of his own linemen--I couldn't tell who. It was a microcosm of the Ravens' season thus far in that even win they win, they lose.
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Post by immrblue on Nov 23, 2015 0:56:00 GMT -5
Wow, an "expensive" win............ 2 key players and #1 sweepstakes. I am GLAD I passed on renewing NFL ticket this year.  Hope to see them both next year. |
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Post by davinci on Nov 23, 2015 10:56:24 GMT -5
One must wonder if Williams has restarted his bounty for injuries program in St. Louis. One must wonder if you actually watched the game.  |
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Post by Evil Yoda on Nov 23, 2015 19:43:14 GMT -5
There was certainly nothing dirty about the hit on Forsett, and Flacco appeared to have his left leg rolled up by one of his own linemen--I couldn't tell who. It was a microcosm of the Ravens' season thus far in that even win they win, they lose. It looked to me like his armed was wrapped up and he was deliberately dropped on it. The fact that the league even let Gregg Williams ever work again tells me that either (1) they don't actually care about player safety, or (2) every team has a bounty program and he was just unfortunate enough to be caught. Between that kind of thing and the terrible officiating all over the league, the games are getting hard to watch. |
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Post by Ravenchamp on Nov 23, 2015 22:08:17 GMT -5
Matt Shaub? Oh brother, sorry he sucks. He'll have to prove me wrong
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Post by Deleted on Nov 24, 2015 0:55:51 GMT -5
There was certainly nothing dirty about the hit on Forsett, and Flacco appeared to have his left leg rolled up by one of his own linemen--I couldn't tell who. It was a microcosm of the Ravens' season thus far in that even win they win, they lose. It looked to me like his armed was wrapped up and he was deliberately dropped on it. The fact that the league even let Gregg Williams ever work again tells me that either (1) they don't actually care about player safety, or (2) every team has a bounty program and he was just unfortunate enough to be caught. Between that kind of thing and the terrible officiating all over the league, the games are getting hard to watch. Still don't see anything inappropriate about the hit on Forsett; the defensive player wrapped him up and pulled him down. If there's any blame attached to that play, it should go to whoever was in charge of blocking the St. Louis defender.
Greg Williams aside, the bigger question is why Case Keenum was allowed to remain in the game after getting his head bounced off the turf late in the fourth quarter. He was clearly dazed afterward, yet was not taken to the sideline for evaluation. Jeff Fisher is on the NFL Competition Committee, so he is surely familiar with the NFL protocols regarding concussed players.
Perhaps the biggest irony in this game is that after all the harping over bad officiating costing the Ravens several games (I don't buy it, by the way), they were the beneficiaries of a missed call Sunday that helped result in a win, but also led to the Ravens losing their quarterback. Jimmy Smith clearly grabbed Tavon Austin on St. Louis's penultimate possession--probably the only time he was close to a receiver all day--yet no flag was thrown.
Had the flag been thrown, the Rams would presumably just down the clock since the Ravens, as usual, didn't have any timeouts left. Then St. Louis would have attempted a field goal of about 42 yards on the game's final play. Assuming the kick was good, the Ravens wouldn't have regained possession and Flacco subsequently wouldn't have been hurt.
The gift that kept on giving, unfortunately.
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Post by Evil Yoda on Nov 24, 2015 11:06:41 GMT -5
Greg Williams aside, the bigger question is why Case Keenum was allowed to remain in the game after getting his head bounced off the turf late in the fourth quarter. He was clearly dazed afterward, yet was not taken to the sideline for evaluation. Jeff Fisher is on the NFL Competition Committee, so he is surely familiar with the NFL protocols regarding concussed players. Something similar happened with Roethlisberger either earlier this year or last year. Supposedly there is an independent neurologist who makes the concussion determination, but teams could be bribing those people or distracting them, or keeping injured players away from them. It's increasingly clear that the league does not care about player well-being, except when it faces the possibility of ruinous lawsuits (for example, the league might be in some trouble if doctors ever conclusively prove a link between head trauma and developing Alzheimer's Disease or other debilitating neurological problems later in life - right now, that link is statistical and weak). I stand by my assertion that Gregg Williams should have remained banned, and any coach who does anything similar should be banned. These athletes owe us a solid effort to play well, but should not face debilitating injuries because the other team's coach believes that's a tactic. Perhaps the biggest irony in this game is that after all the harping over bad officiating costing the Ravens several games (I don't buy it, by the way), Teams that leave themselves in a position where the officials can decide the game's outcome are taking a chance. To be certain of victory a team must put up sufficient points to negate the effect of officiating mistakes. However, there have been officiating mistakes made all over the league, and it either can't or won't put a stop to it. Some mistakes are inevitable, but the league needs to find a way to sieve out the worst offenders. The fact that the same referees return year after year despite many errors, is a signal that the league does not care much about the officiating. I guess Goodell's only job requirement is "make money". Were there other requirements, like good and fair football, player safety, etc. - there's about three times he should have lost his job. they were the beneficiaries of a missed call Sunday that helped result in a win, but also led to the Ravens losing their quarterback. Jimmy Smith clearly grabbed Tavon Austin on St. Louis's penultimate possession--probably the only time he was close to a receiver all day--yet no flag was thrown. The tremendous regression of the defense this year is a reason why I believe Pees should be fired the day after the last game. Trestman is clearly a downgrade from Kubiak, but the offense has been reasonably effective most games especially given his lack of weapons, and I'd give him another year. But Pees has got to go. And if Ozzie doesn't emerge from his recent slump with a very solid draft this year it may be time to discuss retirement with him. But all of that is a different thread. |
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Hope to see them both next year.
