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Post by Ravenchamp on Oct 14, 2016 7:58:34 GMT -5
Baltimore Ravens
3-2, 2nd in AFC North
Sunday, October 16, 1:00 PM on CBS
MetLife Stadium, East Rutherford, New Jersey
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New York
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Post by Evil Yoda on Oct 14, 2016 13:21:43 GMT -5
We've already got Jimmy Smith calling out Odell Beckham like Beckham doesn't hopelessly outclass him. We're not going to get much different in the offense because Mornhinweg hasn't had time to develop much different, and the middle of the season isn't when you can roll out a new system. Harbaugh apparently considered firing Trestman after last season. It was a mistake that he did not do so then. If Harbaugh ends up fired for anything, it will be for choosing his coordinators and assistants poorly; Trestman's just the latest in a list that includes Castillo, Cameron, Mattison and Pees.
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Post by Evil Yoda on Oct 16, 2016 15:46:53 GMT -5
Oof. Lost on both sides of the football. Harbaugh has to be calling down to facilities to get them to fix his chair. It's getting a little warm. It's not hot yet, but if they put up another 5-11 season, he should go. And take Castillo with him.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 16, 2016 16:50:02 GMT -5
The Ravens might have a new offensive coordinator, but they're still as pass-happy as ever, as evidenced by their 48-26 pass/run splits today. The thing was, the running game was effective overall, even behind a makeshift offensive line. When you're thin up front, the running game is a better option since most offensive linemen are better run blockers than pass blockers. The game never necessitated the Ravens throwing that many times, but for whatever reason, they did so yet again.
Another questionable call by Harbaugh on that fourth-down play to start the fourth quarter. Take the points and try and keep the game where Tucker could decide it with his foot. Yet, Harbaugh rolled the dice, came up empty yet again, and effectively neutralized Tucker on that last possession.
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Post by Evil Yoda on Oct 16, 2016 20:00:50 GMT -5
Sometimes ploys work, and sometimes they don't. I suspect that when deciding whether to retain a coach's services or fire him, ploys weigh into it to the extent they support the owner's confirmation bias. I thought Harbaugh was wrong to leave points on the field, and this is twice it failed. But if it had worked we'd be applauding it.
The larger issue is that coaching seems to be trying to force its pattern of play in the players, some of whom cannot execute. To be successful, coaching must adapt itself to the strengths and weaknesses of the team, which I do not feel Ravens coaching does. A related matter is dumb penalties. Often one sees players that just aren't good enough racking up penalties because that's the only way they can execute; they break rules and hope they don't get caught. I regard this as a coaching failure. Morning Glory (I'll use his right name when he helps them win) has to fix that. I don't think Pees is very flexible; it seems that once an opponent deduces how to beat the defense that works for the rest of the game.
I'm concerned about depth. When a starter goes down the guy behind him should not be a guy a Pop Warner team would reject. Yet it seems the Ravens have a lot of those guys. That did not used to be true.
I keep hearing that Harbaugh has worked to purge players who might challenge him and in doing so has purged as well the team's swagger. Certainly the swagger is gone, but this is one of the things you hear and wonder how people can know that. The only people who would really know that won't tell anyone because they'd get fired if they got caught voicing that opinion. A coach cannot survive openly disloyal subordinates and must fire them, and anyone smart enough to get an NFL coaching job knows this.
My "feel" is that the team hasn't been right at the highest levels since it so badly mishandled the Ray Rice matter, and I wonder if that broke some bond of trust somewhere. It just seems to me like they've struggled since then in intangible ways.
I think it may be time to say goodbye to Harbaugh and his team. I go back and forth, but it may even be time to have the gold watch conversation with Ozzie.
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Post by Evil Yoda on Oct 17, 2016 8:06:25 GMT -5
Mills, this morning, recalled seeing Harbaugh looking "lost" on the sidelines after another crushing penalty reversed a gain. I don't know exactly what he meant and I do not recall seeing that, but if Harbaugh doesn't know how to fix this team and that's apparent from his body language he will certainly lose the players eventually.
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Post by Ravenchamp on Oct 17, 2016 11:12:59 GMT -5
grrr Joe was good, thats about all i can say
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Post by Evil Yoda on Oct 17, 2016 14:42:03 GMT -5
Joe threw some passes that were catchable and were not caught. He also threw a lot of inaccurate and high passes, including at least one that should have been intercepted. He's not having a great year or a terrible year. He's a solid quarterback who will never be great, and he is not the problem.
For some reason this team cannot stay healthy. It is once again decimated by injuries; after last year they fired the relevant coach, but the problem remains. It has left the offensive line and the secondary a shambles, and now Suggs is down, removing what little pass rush they had. The offensive line is why Joe is having some of the problems he is having, but let's not confuse him with Brady or Brees or Manning or anyone like that. I was appalled by Wallace's "cover up"; if he does that whenever he's in danger of getting hit he's not going to be too useful.
Except for Cleveland, which is a maybe, it's really hard to look at the rest of the schedule and find a win. And if the team goes 4-12 or 5-11 as I expect they will, I think Harbs is out. Bisciotti chose to personally apologize to the fans for last season. If they can't improve on it this season, I think he'll want to make a coaching change. When the biggest boss apologizes, promises improvement and doesn't get it? That's going to make him livid. We'll see, but my impression is that Bisciotti is not tolerant of poor performance the way Angelos is.
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Post by Ravenchamp on Oct 17, 2016 18:56:34 GMT -5
Sorry to disagree, Joe is a great qb with help that is not consistent
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Post by Evil Yoda on Oct 17, 2016 20:42:24 GMT -5
He wants better receivers, and that's a job Ozzie hasn't accomplished. He also wants a better offensive line. And he wants better coaching. As I said, the team's problems are not all, or even mostly, Joe's fault. But be honest in your evaluation, and you will conclude Joe's a decent second tier quarterback who will never wear a gold jacket.
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Post by Ravenchamp on Oct 18, 2016 6:41:24 GMT -5
Actually, Joe is the best Qb Baltimore has had since Bert Jones of the 1970's Balto Colts
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Post by Evil Yoda on Oct 18, 2016 14:38:39 GMT -5
Actually, Joe is the best Qb Baltimore has had since Bert Jones of the 1970's Balto Colts That may be true, although Testaverde was pretty good - just the defense of that era was horrible. But that's a relative statement. It doesn't comment on his absolute skill or whether he will be inducted into Canton. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 18, 2016 22:54:24 GMT -5
Since the Super Bowl year, Flacco has thrown for 60 TDs and 46 interceptions, a ratio that tops only Geno Smith among active quarterbacks.
Hardly the stuff of legends.
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Post by Evil Yoda on Oct 19, 2016 11:13:35 GMT -5
Flacco not practicing today, may have a concussion. On the plus side, Stanley and Wagner are both practicing. Yanda is not.
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Post by Evil Yoda on Oct 19, 2016 13:42:07 GMT -5
Now hearing that Flacco has a problem with his right shoulder and can play through it.
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