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Post by Ravenchamp on Dec 7, 2016 7:30:50 GMT -5
Baltimore Ravens
7-5, 1st in AFC North
Monday, December 12, 8:30 PM on ESPN
Gillette Stadium, Foxborough, Massachusetts
Baltimore
Ravens
New England
Patriots
History shows Balto plays them tough in NE, and its always a playoff type feeling in this matchup
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Post by shutout on Dec 7, 2016 10:53:04 GMT -5
The Ravens definitely are not afraid to play the Patriots. Home or away. Do you have a prediction?
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Post by Evil Yoda on Dec 7, 2016 11:46:56 GMT -5
This will be one of their tougher games, but they always play the Patriots hard. If Joe comes out and dictates the game as he did when Miami comes to town, they have a good chance. If they revert back to letting Mornhinweg run the offense the same sad way Trestman was, it's a loss. Offensive coaching isn't very good, and Harbaugh's to blame for choosing those men and then for not demanding better of them. So Joe will have to do it. Fortunately, he had some success when he asserted himself, and success feeds success.
The defense is going to have to step up. Pees cannot let Brady execute those short passes he's so fond of without challenging him hard. I think they have the tools to do that if everyone stays healthy. Three man blitzes won't work; if you decide on a blitz, do a real one. Otherwise focus on pass defense. The lack of Gronk will hurt them, but with Belichick's interchangeable part scheming, not as much as people think.
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Post by shutout on Dec 7, 2016 11:50:08 GMT -5
This will be one of their tougher games, but they always play the Patriots hard. If Joe comes out and dictates the game as he did when Miami comes to town, they have a good chance. If they revert back to letting Mornhinweg run the offense the same sad way Trestman was, it's a loss. Offensive coaching isn't very good, and Harbaugh's to blame for choosing those men and then for not demanding better of them. So Joe will have to do it. Fortunately, he had some success when he asserted himself, and success feeds success. The defense is going to have to step up. Pees cannot let Brady execute those short passes he's so fond of without challenging him hard. I think they have the tools to do that if everyone stays healthy. Three man blitzes won't work; if you decide on a blitz, do a real one. Otherwise focus on pass defense. The lack of Gronk will hurt them, but with Belichick's interchangeable part scheming, not as much as people think. Hard to get pressure in a few seconds unless you get it up the middle and move Brady off of his spot. The short passing game has a quick release. One key is to not give up YAC. Tackle sure and solid. Wrap them up. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 7, 2016 12:43:50 GMT -5
Gronkowski is out for year which seriously compromises the Patriots since he's a matchup nightmare.
New England's defense isn't anything special, but I still think they'll attempt to shut down the Ravens on the ground and force the Ravens to beat them through the air. When Flacco has to throw 40+ times, the Ravens typically struggle. The Ravens are currently 8 1/2 to nine point underdogs, which is a bit high to me. I think that'll come down as a number of people would be willing to bet that spread. I certainly would.
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Post by Ravenchamp on Dec 7, 2016 13:42:38 GMT -5
Constant pressure on Brady is the key.
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Post by Evil Yoda on Dec 7, 2016 14:59:22 GMT -5
Constant pressure on Brady is the key. Yeah, but that depends on the caliber of the Pats' offensive line. One of the things I've noticed consistently good teams do is put protection in front of their quarterback to give him time. The Pats also have good o-line scheming. Add in the Ravens' elderly pass rush, and I don't think they're going to be able to pressure him. Plus, Brady is one of a handful of quarterbacks able to intimidate officials into giving him roughing calls on sacks. He's done this in game after game. I think their focus has to be on breaking up passing and preventing YAC. |
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Post by Evil Yoda on Dec 7, 2016 15:12:14 GMT -5
Gun show in New England. Hochuli will be the ref.
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Post by bobloblaw on Dec 9, 2016 11:16:17 GMT -5
Ravens-24
Patriots-21
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Post by Ravenchamp on Dec 13, 2016 10:46:18 GMT -5
So pizzed today, no way should we have lost.
Ravens showed zero urgency. What the hell is broken in coaching?
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Post by Deleted on Dec 13, 2016 16:32:36 GMT -5
If the Patriots hadn't uncharacteristically tried to gift wrap this game for the Ravens, this thing might have been settled by halftime. I do give the Ravens credit, however, for not buckling when it looked as if matters might get out of hand.
New England basically forced the Ravens' hand offensively by choking off the middle of the field and forcing them to go to check downs. I did think, however, that Flacco was at times premature with the check down throws. The offensive line did a fairly good job of keeping him upright, and had Flacco been a little more patient, the second and third options might have been there. Other than the blown coverage on the 79-yard TD pass to Chris Hogan, the Ravens other egregious mistake was that ill-fated running play which resulted in a safety. New England had that play blown up before the ball was even snapped, which would suggest that it may have been a good idea to check out of it and go with something else.
Despite not having Gronkowski and Amendola, Brady played to the Ravens' weaknesses rather than to his own team's strengths. That's what New England does. They find opponents weaknesses and exploit them by getting the matchups they want.
Oh, and it would really help if the Ravens would play with a little more urgency when down 10 and the clock working against them. They act sometimes as if a 10-point deficit and a 10-point lead are the exact same things.
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Post by Evil Yoda on Dec 13, 2016 16:56:55 GMT -5
My view is that the game spotlighted poor coaching.
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