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Post by aboutwell on Nov 24, 2017 20:53:45 GMT -5
It was Waco Billy Boy that told the women to come to his room to discuss things. Should they have gone? Probably not. Should he have raped them? Not in a million years, but he did. So, what you are saying is that women that wear short skirts, or go to a politicians room when he says he wants to "discuss things" with them deserved to be raped, and since he's a Democrat, it's no big deal. How many of those women did you tell that you wanted to discuss union issues with them? How many of them were expecting discussions of issues and not sex? I guess you don't see the difference. No one can find the slightest bit of evidence that he was banned from anywhere. Gossip, 'I seem to remember something about..." is all you've got. The "others" were the pattern. No assault, no harassment, certainly no rape. The one accuser that claims she was underage when he "assaulted" her has serious credibility issues. Timelines, for one. He was the judge in her mother's divorce settlement. She was sent to live with her father because she already had "discipline issues". He would have had less than 3 weeks to accomplish all she claims. And given that sexual assault creates discipline issues in most females, especially ones that young, you would think she would have even worse ones than she had before. She didn't. In fact, she was given into the custody of her mother later on, because her discipline issues had declined significantly. And the yearbook "signature" appears to have been forged. Sorry, Redleg... you don't know Rot Moore as well as I do... I lived in north Alabama in the late 60's... Moore was banned... it's even archived in local newspapers... |
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Post by palealeman on Nov 25, 2017 12:59:22 GMT -5
You should know better, Aboutwell. The Commie never lets real facts get in the way of his rants.
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Post by palealeman on Nov 25, 2017 13:10:44 GMT -5
So again, RJ, little touch with reality. If you were up to date, you'd know that PP provides primarily health care, and abortions are a small part of their business. But why worry about reality when you can live in a bubble by yourself? Proposed cuts to health care -- in the budget that cuts millionaires taxes but ultimately increases the taxes on us little guys -- attack women's health care by eliminating their health care completely. It's just a continuation of the Republican War on Women that's been going on for years. If you're not aware of it or haven't seen it in action, I'd suggest you get you head out of the sand. And yes, there are a lot of sexual predators, and more and more are being outed every day. But to call it a Democratic or Republican problem reduces it to simple politics. It's not political. I decry it. What bothers me is that you seem to be OK with sexual abuse if it was committed by someone with an R behind his name. Trump -- 8 or 9 victims, but he denies everything so it's OK with you. Moore -- what, 8 or 9 victims, but since it happened so long ago it's OK with you. Clarence Thomas -- unanswered allegations, but since it was so long ago it's OK. And I haven't accused you of abuse, RJ. But, since you seem OK with it if there's an R behind the name, I've wondered just what you're covering up yourself. You won't know reality until it mugs you. Right now, it's only picking your pocket. And, no, you don't decry sexual abuse. You are just fine with Bill Clinton, in spite of his being one of the worst of the bunch. You're hung up on Roy Moore and Trump because they're Republicans, but I've seen not a peep from you about Menendez, who is in court now. Or Conyers, and very little about Franken. I want Moore to go away, but he hasn't even been elected yet. As for Trump, the accusations have their own Wikipedia page here: en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Donald_Trump_sexual_misconduct_allegationsMost of them are either vague, have been discounted by other people who were there, or amounted to things like being greeted with a hug and a kiss that went on too long. Three went to court: his ex-wife Ivanna accused him of assault during their divorce. She has recanted. This is an example of the sort of behavior I mentioned above that is common during divorce proceedings. The second was Jill Harth, back in 1992 who apparently was working for him "on friendly terms" in 2015. They had been dating at the time of the accusations, and apparently had a bitter breakup, leading to the accusations. The current one is Summer Zevros. Her case is apparently still active, however there is evidence that she is trying to reconnect with Trump because he had been helpful to her. In short, there is A LOT of ambiguity in these accusations. Interesting way you spin things, RJ. And thanks for the link to the Wikipedia article. Ivanna Trump accused her husband of rape. Not assault, Rape (remember, reading is fundamental). Harth accuses him of non-consensual groping and relentless sexual harrassment. She subsequently dropped that case when there was a financial settlement in a companion case (i.e., Trump bought her off). Zervos also complained about groping, kissing, and other non-consensual behavior. While she may have being to reconnect with Mr. Trump, that stopped when she filed suit in early 2017. That case is still pending. And you conveniently omit any reference to the NYT story and the allegations contained there. Thanks for the spin . . . and again showing that aggressive sexual behavior is OK with you as long as the perp denies it. Again, makes me wonder what you've done. Hope you don't have daughters or sisters. |
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Post by Ranger John on Nov 25, 2017 15:29:01 GMT -5
You won't know reality until it mugs you. Right now, it's only picking your pocket. And, no, you don't decry sexual abuse. You are just fine with Bill Clinton, in spite of his being one of the worst of the bunch. You're hung up on Roy Moore and Trump because they're Republicans, but I've seen not a peep from you about Menendez, who is in court now. Or Conyers, and very little about Franken. I want Moore to go away, but he hasn't even been elected yet. As for Trump, the accusations have their own Wikipedia page here: en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Donald_Trump_sexual_misconduct_allegationsMost of them are either vague, have been discounted by other people who were there, or amounted to things like being greeted with a hug and a kiss that went on too long. Three went to court: his ex-wife Ivanna accused him of assault during their divorce. She has recanted. This is an example of the sort of behavior I mentioned above that is common during divorce proceedings. The second was Jill Harth, back in 1992 who apparently was working for him "on friendly terms" in 2015. They had been dating at the time of the accusations, and apparently had a bitter breakup, leading to the accusations. The current one is Summer Zevros. Her case is apparently still active, however there is evidence that she is trying to reconnect with Trump because he had been helpful to her. In short, there is A LOT of ambiguity in these accusations. Interesting way you spin things, RJ. And thanks for the link to the Wikipedia article. Ivanna Trump accused her husband of rape. Not assault, Rape (remember, reading is fundamental). Harth accuses him of non-consensual groping and relentless sexual harrassment. She subsequently dropped that case when there was a financial settlement in a companion case (i.e., Trump bought her off). Zervos also complained about groping, kissing, and other non-consensual behavior. While she may have being to reconnect with Mr. Trump, that stopped when she filed suit in early 2017. That case is still pending. And you conveniently omit any reference to the NYT story and the allegations contained there. Thanks for the spin . . . and again showing that aggressive sexual behavior is OK with you as long as the perp denies it. Again, makes me wonder what you've done. Hope you don't have daughters or sisters. Ivanna's case is indeed very important here. As noted in the Wiki page, she has recanted. It is COMMON, in divorce cases involving wealthy people for a spouse to claim rape, even when no rape took place. It's about the payoff, not the actual crime. That's also probably what happened in the Harth case, as that was another bitter break up. Rape is probably the most falsely reported crime: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/False_accusation_of_rapeThe FBI reports that about 8% of rapes are unfounded. The average false report rate for most other crimes is about 2%. In some studies the false reporting rate for rape is as high as 40%. It's stupid to automatically believe an accuser, especially when other motives for the accusation are obviously in play. Look, we all know you're a Democrat, and so you just assume Republicans are rapists. Democrats are incredibly stupid that way. You keep proving by your statements here that Liberals are so morally and ethically effed up that you'll make rape insinuations against people you don't know, and have never met. If you're willing to do it to strangers on a message board, obviously the average liberal woman would be happy to make such accusations against Trump and Moore, for purely partisan reasons. And YOU, PAM, are the proof! |
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Post by palealeman on Nov 25, 2017 16:27:22 GMT -5
Look, we know you're a Republican, and you assume Democrats are incredibly stupid. Again, the attempt to gain the moral high ground, to try to prove that you're better than anyone else.
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Ivana claimed rape, then later amended to assault. That's still a violent crime. "Probably" regarding Mrs. Harth isn't good enough. Either something happened or it didn't. Since there was payoff, it "probably" happened like she claimed. However, the telling part is that a known liar denied anything any YOU BELIEVE HIM. You've lost any claim to moral high ground and continue to show how low conservatives will stoop to block any actions they don't like.
BTW, why do you claim that liberal women are making these claims? Last time I checked, most of the voters in Alabama were happy conservative Republicans.
I don't assume anyone is a rapist. I look at evidence, at the claims being made, at the credibility of the accuser and accused. That's not what you do with Democrats, but that what we've come to expect from the right -- throw mud and accusations and see what happens.
You call me partisan, when you are so much more so, unwilling to believe anything untoward regarding your conservative role models. Like I've said, our new conservative morality accepts sexual assault as normal. Thank you, President Trump, for degrading our country, our morals, our international reputation. Thank you, RJ, for being a part of the effort.
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Post by redleg on Nov 25, 2017 16:33:39 GMT -5
Sorry, Redleg... you don't know Rot Moore as well as I do... I lived in north Alabama in the late 60's... Moore was banned... it's even archived in local newspapers... Sorry, AB, but according to the manager of the mall, it never happened. No paperwork, no nothing. |
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Post by redleg on Nov 25, 2017 16:35:57 GMT -5
You won't know reality until it mugs you. Right now, it's only picking your pocket. And, no, you don't decry sexual abuse. You are just fine with Bill Clinton, in spite of his being one of the worst of the bunch. You're hung up on Roy Moore and Trump because they're Republicans, but I've seen not a peep from you about Menendez, who is in court now. Or Conyers, and very little about Franken. I want Moore to go away, but he hasn't even been elected yet. As for Trump, the accusations have their own Wikipedia page here: en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Donald_Trump_sexual_misconduct_allegationsMost of them are either vague, have been discounted by other people who were there, or amounted to things like being greeted with a hug and a kiss that went on too long. Three went to court: his ex-wife Ivanna accused him of assault during their divorce. She has recanted. This is an example of the sort of behavior I mentioned above that is common during divorce proceedings. The second was Jill Harth, back in 1992 who apparently was working for him "on friendly terms" in 2015. They had been dating at the time of the accusations, and apparently had a bitter breakup, leading to the accusations. The current one is Summer Zevros. Her case is apparently still active, however there is evidence that she is trying to reconnect with Trump because he had been helpful to her. In short, there is A LOT of ambiguity in these accusations. Interesting way you spin things, RJ. And thanks for the link to the Wikipedia article. Ivanna Trump accused her husband of rape. Not assault, Rape (remember, reading is fundamental). Harth accuses him of non-consensual groping and relentless sexual harrassment. She subsequently dropped that case when there was a financial settlement in a companion case (i.e., Trump bought her off). Zervos also complained about groping, kissing, and other non-consensual behavior. While she may have being to reconnect with Mr. Trump, that stopped when she filed suit in early 2017. That case is still pending. And you conveniently omit any reference to the NYT story and the allegations contained there. Thanks for the spin . . . and again showing that aggressive sexual behavior is OK with you as long as the perp denies it. Again, makes me wonder what you've done. Hope you don't have daughters or sisters. Which is the whole reason she made the accusation. Same with Moore. The females in the Moore situation, other than the ones that don't claim he assaulted him, are in it for the money. |
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Post by Ranger John on Nov 25, 2017 17:05:51 GMT -5
Look, we know you're a Republican, and you assume Democrats are incredibly stupid. Again, the attempt to gain the moral high ground, to try to prove that you're better than anyone else. / . Ivana claimed rape, then later amended to assaul. That's still a violent crime. Then she recanted entirely. It is just as reasonable to argue there was a payoff BECAUSE there was an assault claim. This stuff happens during breakups. It's a revenge thing. Then grow a brain and a sense of morality before wondering aloud about my personal life. Redleg and I have both noted that liberals routinely accuse conservatives of rape and assault for political reasons (they also claim racism) because they lack the intelligence and morality to make their case with logic and reason. Then you went and proved our point. IS THERE A LIBERAL SOMEWHERE WHO CAN MAKE A COUNTER ARGUMENT WITHOUT INSINUATING THAT SOMEONE HE DOESN'T KNOW AND HASN'T MET IS GUILTY OF ASSAULT? Or do you all just exist to make our case for us like PaleAleMan? |
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Post by Ranger John on Nov 25, 2017 17:12:30 GMT -5
In all seriousness, is there a liberal somewhere who can counter the argument that Liberals falsely accuse Conservatives of rape, assault and racism for political reasons, all the G-D time, without accusing me of rape, assault or racism?
PaleAleMan has already proven he can't.
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Post by bobloblaw on Nov 25, 2017 17:30:16 GMT -5
Look, we know you're a Republican, and you assume Democrats are incredibly stupid. Again, the attempt to gain the moral high ground, to try to prove that you're better than anyone else. / . Ivana claimed rape, then later amended to assault. That's still a violent crime. "Probably" regarding Mrs. Harth isn't good enough. Either something happened or it didn't. Since there was payoff, it "probably" happened like she claimed. However, the telling part is that a known liar denied anything any YOU BELIEVE HIM. You've lost any claim to moral high ground and continue to show how low conservatives will stoop to block any actions they don't like. BTW, why do you claim that liberal women are making these claims? Last time I checked, most of the voters in Alabama were happy conservative Republicans. I don't assume anyone is a rapist. I look at evidence, at the claims being made, at the credibility of the accuser and accused. That's not what you do with Democrats, but that what we've come to expect from the right -- throw mud and accusations and see what happens. You call me partisan, when you are so much more so, unwilling to believe anything untoward regarding your conservative role models. Like I've said, our new conservative morality accepts sexual assault as normal. Thank you, President Trump, for degrading our country, our morals, our international reputation. Thank you, RJ, for being a part of the effort. Trump actually ripped her hair out with his bare hands.That's awful. |
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Post by redleg on Nov 25, 2017 17:48:04 GMT -5
Look, we know you're a Republican, and you assume Democrats are incredibly stupid. Again, the attempt to gain the moral high ground, to try to prove that you're better than anyone else. / . Ivana claimed rape, then later amended to assault. That's still a violent crime. "Probably" regarding Mrs. Harth isn't good enough. Either something happened or it didn't. Since there was payoff, it "probably" happened like she claimed. However, the telling part is that a known liar denied anything any YOU BELIEVE HIM. You've lost any claim to moral high ground and continue to show how low conservatives will stoop to block any actions they don't like. BTW, why do you claim that liberal women are making these claims? Last time I checked, most of the voters in Alabama were happy conservative Republicans. I don't assume anyone is a rapist. I look at evidence, at the claims being made, at the credibility of the accuser and accused. That's not what you do with Democrats, but that what we've come to expect from the right -- throw mud and accusations and see what happens. You call me partisan, when you are so much more so, unwilling to believe anything untoward regarding your conservative role models. Like I've said, our new conservative morality accepts sexual assault as normal. Thank you, President Trump, for degrading our country, our morals, our international reputation. Thank you, RJ, for being a part of the effort. Trump actually ripped her hair out with his bare hands.That's awful. And you know that how? rawstory again? |
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Post by bobloblaw on Nov 25, 2017 18:22:06 GMT -5
Trump actually ripped her hair out with his bare hands.That's awful. And you know that how? rawstory again? No, I read the book. |
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Post by palealeman on Nov 25, 2017 18:52:53 GMT -5
Look, we know you're a Republican, and you assume Democrats are incredibly stupid. Again, the attempt to gain the moral high ground, to try to prove that you're better than anyone else. / . Ivana claimed rape, then later amended to assaul. That's still a violent crime. Then she recanted entirely. It is just as reasonable to argue there was a payoff BECAUSE there was an assault claim. This stuff happens during breakups. It's a revenge thing. Then grow a brain and a sense of morality before wondering aloud about my personal life. Redleg and I have both noted that liberals routinely accuse conservatives of rape and assault for political reasons (they also claim racism) because they lack the intelligence and morality to make their case with logic and reason. Then you went and proved our point. IS THERE A LIBERAL SOMEWHERE WHO CAN MAKE A COUNTER ARGUMENT WITHOUT INSINUATING THAT SOMEONE HE DOESN'T KNOW AND HASN'T MET IS GUILTY OF ASSAULT? Or do you all just exist to make our case for us like PaleAleMan? Ivana didn't "recant." She said that what she originally said was rape was an assault. And I believe she lost some hair. But you give the perp the benefit of the doubt. Mrs. Harth received a settlement. She was bought off. Because of an assault claim, as you indicate. A claim of sexual assault against Trump. Thanks for agreeing. You talk of the Commie. He has no credibility. He's proven that he knows nothing about law, the Constitution, the federal budget, and almost anything else. That fact that you link yourself to him does nothing to enhance your credibility. In fact, it puts you deeper and deeper into the sewer. Conservatives regularly accuse liberals of criminal activities. In fact, the Commie continues to accuse Mrs. Clinton of several criminal violations even though she has never been charged with a crime. He continues to claim that President Obama is a Muslim and was born outside the country, though those myths have been debunked numerous times. You continue to claim that someone who denies sexual assault claims must not be guilty. Don't accuse me of playing games when that's all you guys on the right do. You sound more and more like Hannity and Limbaugh -- and that's not a compliment. When you're able to comment on issues objectively -- which I doubt will ever happen -- look me up. In the meantime, leave me alone. I don't like sexual abusers, and I especially don't like people who come to their defense when there is none. |
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Post by bobloblaw on Nov 25, 2017 19:11:41 GMT -5
Ivana testified under oath.
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Post by Ranger John on Nov 25, 2017 19:49:14 GMT -5
Then she recanted entirely. It is just as reasonable to argue there was a payoff BECAUSE there was an assault claim. This stuff happens during breakups. It's a revenge thing. Then grow a brain and a sense of morality before wondering aloud about my personal life. Redleg and I have both noted that liberals routinely accuse conservatives of rape and assault for political reasons (they also claim racism) because they lack the intelligence and morality to make their case with logic and reason. Then you went and proved our point. IS THERE A LIBERAL SOMEWHERE WHO CAN MAKE A COUNTER ARGUMENT WITHOUT INSINUATING THAT SOMEONE HE DOESN'T KNOW AND HASN'T MET IS GUILTY OF ASSAULT? Or do you all just exist to make our case for us like PaleAleMan? Ivana didn't "recant." She said that what she originally said was rape was an assault. And I believe she lost some hair. But you give the perp the benefit of the doubt. Ivanna's words are that the story is "totally without merit". They're right there in the wiki article. She fabricated the assault claim for the payoff, and was doing Trump's makeup in 2015. You make redleg look like a genius. James Comey himself outlined the felonies Clinton committed on national TV. He then said he was just going to let her get away with them. She is an unindicted felon in the words of Obama's own FBI director. And you yourself insinuated that I might be committing sexual assault just above. You did this in an incredibly idiotic attempt to rebut the assertion that Liberals frequently make false rape claims against Republicans. You made a jackas out of yourself here. You'd do well to skulk off with your tail between your legs before you do it again. |
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Post by Ranger John on Nov 25, 2017 19:51:17 GMT -5
Ivana testified under oath. And now she claims the story is "totally without merit." Guess she purjured herself. |
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Post by palealeman on Nov 25, 2017 21:35:08 GMT -5
Ivanna said "totally without merit" 30 years later and after being hit with a gag order. Makes it pretty hard to talk about something.
Mrs. Harth was pretty specific in her claims. To claim that she made something up later on for a settlement is just the sort of thing I'd expect you to say -- damn the accuser, believe the perp.
Comey did state his opinion. However, he did not bring charges. As I stated, Mrs. Clinton has never been charged with a crime, never been convicted of a crime, and is not a felon (as your genius buddy so often wrongly asserts).
And interesting enough, you haven't mentioned Bob Packwood. I'm guessing you and your commie companion are big fans of him too, and presume that he did nothing wrong either.
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Post by redleg on Nov 25, 2017 21:44:35 GMT -5
Then she recanted entirely. It is just as reasonable to argue there was a payoff BECAUSE there was an assault claim. This stuff happens during breakups. It's a revenge thing. Then grow a brain and a sense of morality before wondering aloud about my personal life. Redleg and I have both noted that liberals routinely accuse conservatives of rape and assault for political reasons (they also claim racism) because they lack the intelligence and morality to make their case with logic and reason. Then you went and proved our point. IS THERE A LIBERAL SOMEWHERE WHO CAN MAKE A COUNTER ARGUMENT WITHOUT INSINUATING THAT SOMEONE HE DOESN'T KNOW AND HASN'T MET IS GUILTY OF ASSAULT? Or do you all just exist to make our case for us like PaleAleMan? Ivana didn't "recant." She said that what she originally said was rape was an assault. And I believe she lost some hair. But you give the perp the benefit of the doubt. Mrs. Harth received a settlement. She was bought off. Because of an assault claim, as you indicate. A claim of sexual assault against Trump. Thanks for agreeing. You talk of the Commie. He has no credibility. He's proven that he knows nothing about law, the Constitution, the federal budget, and almost anything else. That fact that you link yourself to him does nothing to enhance your credibility. In fact, it puts you deeper and deeper into the sewer. Conservatives regularly accuse liberals of criminal activities. In fact, the Commie continues to accuse Mrs. Clinton of several criminal violations even though she has never been charged with a crime. He continues to claim that President Obama is a Muslim and was born outside the country, though those myths have been debunked numerous times. You continue to claim that someone who denies sexual assault claims must not be guilty. Don't accuse me of playing games when that's all you guys on the right do. You sound more and more like Hannity and Limbaugh -- and that's not a compliment. When you're able to comment on issues objectively -- which I doubt will ever happen -- look me up. In the meantime, leave me alone. I don't like sexual abusers, and I especially don't like people who come to their defense when there is none. She wasn't charged, because the President of the United States told his AG that she would never be charged, regardless of what crimes she committed. That's why Comey laid out her crimes to Congress. He listed at least 7. But then, she's all the Party of the KKK had, or has now, so of course no crimes she committed will ever be admitted to by you, or anyone else in the Party of the KKK. After all, if she can finally face the consequences of her criminal life, then they are also at risk. |
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Post by redleg on Nov 25, 2017 22:19:13 GMT -5
Ivanna said "totally without merit" 30 years later and after being hit with a gag order. Makes it pretty hard to talk about something. Mrs. Harth was pretty specific in her claims. To claim that she made something up later on for a settlement is just the sort of thing I'd expect you to say -- damn the accuser, believe the perp. Comey did state his opinion. However, he did not bring charges. As I stated, Mrs. Clinton has never been charged with a crime, never been convicted of a crime, and is not a felon (as your genius buddy so often wrongly asserts). And interesting enough, you haven't mentioned Bob Packwood. I'm guessing you and your commie companion are big fans of him too, and presume that he did nothing wrong either. Unless she can prove her charges, or at the least, present some evidence, then the accused should be believed. Just like with Moore, none of the accusers have presented a scintilla of evidence. They are simply making accusations, and the LR media is running with it because he's a Pub, and even the RINOs don't like him. As for The Felon, yes, she is a criminal. The DOJ, under The Puppet, was not a criminal investigation organization, it was an arm of the Party of the KKK, used to excuse criminals from the Party of the KKK, and attack any and all opponents. Which is why they were spying on the Trump campaign, using a "dossier" that even they knew was fake. They are now admitting that the entire thing is fake. Comey claimed that they couldn't prove that she "intended" to break the law, but there is no "intent" included in the law. It doesn't matter what she "intended", she broke the law, numerous times in numerous ways. She is not a CONVICTED felon, but she is still a felon. Per the Director of the FBI. |
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Post by redleg on Nov 25, 2017 22:21:48 GMT -5
Ivanna said "totally without merit" 30 years later and after being hit with a gag order. Makes it pretty hard to talk about something. Mrs. Harth was pretty specific in her claims. To claim that she made something up later on for a settlement is just the sort of thing I'd expect you to say -- damn the accuser, believe the perp. Comey did state his opinion. However, he did not bring charges. As I stated, Mrs. Clinton has never been charged with a crime, never been convicted of a crime, and is not a felon (as your genius buddy so often wrongly asserts). And interesting enough, you haven't mentioned Bob Packwood. I'm guessing you and your commie companion are big fans of him too, and presume that he did nothing wrong either. Packwood resigned. When will Franken, Conyers, and all the others that have been using tax money to pay off accusers resign? |
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Post by winston on Nov 25, 2017 22:39:36 GMT -5
Ivanna said "totally without merit" 30 years later and after being hit with a gag order. Makes it pretty hard to talk about something. Mrs. Harth was pretty specific in her claims. To claim that she made something up later on for a settlement is just the sort of thing I'd expect you to say -- damn the accuser, believe the perp. Comey did state his opinion. However, he did not bring charges. As I stated, Mrs. Clinton has never been charged with a crime, never been convicted of a crime, and is not a felon (as your genius buddy so often wrongly asserts). And interesting enough, you haven't mentioned Bob Packwood. I'm guessing you and your commie companion are big fans of him too, and presume that he did nothing wrong either. Packwood resigned. When will Franken, Conyers, and all the others that have been using tax money to pay off accusers resign? U r 1 stupid MF |
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Post by aboutwell on Nov 26, 2017 10:58:19 GMT -5
Sorry, Redleg... you don't know Rot Moore as well as I do... I lived in north Alabama in the late 60's... Moore was banned... it's even archived in local newspapers... Sorry, AB, but according to the manager of the mall, it never happened. No paperwork, no nothing. You got a link to that mall manager... nothing here... www.snopes.com/2017/11/17/roy-moore-banned-mall-harassing-teen-girls/ |
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Post by bobloblaw on Nov 26, 2017 12:10:26 GMT -5
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Post by Ranger John on Nov 26, 2017 12:49:08 GMT -5
Ivanna said "totally without merit" 30 years later and after being hit with a gag order. Makes it pretty hard to talk about something. Mrs. Harth was pretty specific in her claims. To claim that she made something up later on for a settlement is just the sort of thing I'd expect you to say -- damn the accuser, believe the perp. Comey did state his opinion. However, he did not bring charges. As I stated, Mrs. Clinton has never been charged with a crime, never been convicted of a crime, and is not a felon (as your genius buddy so often wrongly asserts). And interesting enough, you haven't mentioned Bob Packwood. I'm guessing you and your commie companion are big fans of him too, and presume that he did nothing wrong either. Packwood?!? He resigned in disgrace 20 years ago. He’s a model for Democrats to follow. Again, women (especially liberal women) often make bogus claims in divorce cases and during breakups. Liberals especially throw baseless accusations around all the time in order to try and silence people who disagree with them. And you are Exhibit A. When such charges appear to be politically (or financially) motivated, they are rightfully discounted until some sort of evidence is presented. The charges against Trump are detailed at Wiki. Ivanna has gone from making an accusation at the height of a divorce, to asserting it is totally without merit. There is zero reason to believe those accusations. Harth made her accusations in the middle of a breakup with Trump, and now does freelance work for him. There’s no good reason to believe her accusations either. Trump has a mob of pussy-hat wearing whackos throwing mud at him hoping just some of it will stick. It is no longer possible to sort out valid accusations from baseless slander (thanks in part to people like bobloblaw and yourself), so without actual evidence, accusations have to be discarded with all the rest of the noise and mud being hurled at him. Perhaps when the Left stops crying wolf 24/7, it will become credible again. But you guys aren’t showing any signs of letting up. |
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Post by palealeman on Nov 26, 2017 13:39:59 GMT -5
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