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Post by breakingbad on Dec 21, 2017 6:17:22 GMT -5
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Post by Ranger John on Dec 21, 2017 7:58:46 GMT -5
Only on people who don’t worship the Kennedy’s. Democrats will all claim this is an unwarranted hit piece. |
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Post by redleg on Dec 21, 2017 10:34:11 GMT -5
Notice that the headline is that Kennedy's life will be derailed. Nothing about what Mary Jo might think about the whole situation. This is just another attempt to whitewash the depravity of the Party of the KKK and it's "heros".
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Post by 3000fps on Dec 23, 2017 22:18:10 GMT -5
Perhaps the most disgusting legacy of Kennedy is he's buried at Arlington among men and women that deserved the honor.  Should there be a hell he no doubt is a good candidate.  |
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Post by breakingbad on Jan 7, 2018 7:15:42 GMT -5
Mary Jo: "But, Teddy, what if I get pregnant?"
Teddy: "We'll cross that bridge when we get to it."
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Post by aboutwell on Jan 7, 2018 18:22:08 GMT -5
Don't forget... this is a "MOVIE"... somebody's opinion... good or bad... truth is... BOTH were drunk... regardless of anything else, he/they ran off in the water... he got out... drunk... she didn't... sure he left the scene... there was nobody else there... neither were fully responsible for what happened... other than being responsible for getting drunk in the first place...
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Post by breakingbad on Jan 7, 2018 21:56:01 GMT -5
Don't forget... this is a "MOVIE"... somebody's opinion... good or bad... truth is... BOTH were drunk... regardless of anything else, he/they ran off in the water... he got out... drunk... she didn't... sure he left the scene... there was nobody else there... neither were fully responsible for what happened... other than being responsible for getting drunk in the first place... Yes. It would only be his responsibility if he were a republican. |
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Post by Ranger John on Jan 7, 2018 22:09:12 GMT -5
Don't forget... this is a "MOVIE"... somebody's opinion... good or bad... truth is... BOTH were drunk... regardless of anything else, he/they ran off in the water... he got out... drunk... she didn't... sure he left the scene... there was nobody else there... neither were fully responsible for what happened... other than being responsible for getting drunk in the first place... Yes. It would only be his responsibility if he were a republican. Have you ever seen a Democrat take responsibility for anything? Hell, Obama was blaming Bush for pretty much everything right up until Trump took the oath of office. Eight effing years of blaming Bush. And these people keep screaming about how irresponsible Trump is. |
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Post by aboutwell on Jan 7, 2018 22:43:05 GMT -5
Don't forget... this is a "MOVIE"... somebody's opinion... good or bad... truth is... BOTH were drunk... regardless of anything else, he/they ran off in the water... he got out... drunk... she didn't... sure he left the scene... there was nobody else there... neither were fully responsible for what happened... other than being responsible for getting drunk in the first place... Yes. It would only be his responsibility if he were a republican. Nope... same rules would apply... |
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Post by aboutwell on Jan 7, 2018 22:45:13 GMT -5
Yes. It would only be his responsibility if he were a republican. Have you ever seen a Democrat take responsibility for anything? Hell, Obama was blaming Bush for pretty much everything right up until Trump took the oath of office. Eight effing years of blaming Bush. And these people keep screaming about how irresponsible Trump is. And so far, Trump has been blaming Obama, Hillary, Bill Clinton, Jimmy Carter, and everybody he can think of for almost a year now... yep... |
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Post by breakingbad on Jan 8, 2018 9:35:01 GMT -5
Yes. It would only be his responsibility if he were a republican. Nope... same rules would apply... Haha. You're funny. Of course, you are right. The same rules would apply. The only difference is you wouldn't be doing all these contortions to try to deflect blame. And the republican would be guilty of murder. |
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Post by aboutwell on Jan 8, 2018 11:26:09 GMT -5
Nope... same rules would apply... Haha. You're funny. Of course, you are right. The same rules would apply. The only difference is you wouldn't be doing all these contortions to try to deflect blame. And the republican would be guilty of murder. Since when is the truth and facts... funny?... and please feel free to point out the f***ing "contortions" that I am doing to deflect blame... sure he' was guilty... just as much as she was... people shouldn't get drunk and drive... or ride with someone who is... and that goes for Democrats as well as Republicans... |
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Post by breakingbad on Jan 8, 2018 11:54:49 GMT -5
Haha. You're funny. Of course, you are right. The same rules would apply. The only difference is you wouldn't be doing all these contortions to try to deflect blame. And the republican would be guilty of murder. Since when is the truth and facts... funny?... and please feel free to point out the f***ing "contortions" that I am doing to deflect blame... sure he' was guilty... just as much as she was... people shouldn't get drunk and drive... or ride with someone who is... and that goes for Democrats as well as Republicans... How do you know she was drunk? It's a safe assumption that Teddy was, even though he denies it. But an autopsy was never performed on Mary Jo. Oh, that's right, you were probably at the party. |
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Post by aboutwell on Jan 8, 2018 12:21:13 GMT -5
Since when is the truth and facts... funny?... and please feel free to point out the f***ing "contortions" that I am doing to deflect blame... sure he' was guilty... just as much as she was... people shouldn't get drunk and drive... or ride with someone who is... and that goes for Democrats as well as Republicans... How do you know she was drunk? It's a safe assumption that Teddy was, even though he denies it. But an autopsy was never performed on Mary Jo. Oh, that's right, you were probably at the party. How did you guess?...  Actually I HAVE been with Ted Kennedy when alcohol was being consumed... (I don't expect you to believe that but you know what I don't give, I'm sure)... and I've been to some of those "celebrations" like the one they were attending... and I'd bet my ass that both were participating in the fun... and even if she wasn't, she should not have been riding with him... and if she was "trapped" in the car, it was likely beyond his ability to get her out since he had been drinking himself... |
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Post by redleg on Jan 8, 2018 12:44:23 GMT -5
Don't forget... this is a "MOVIE"... somebody's opinion... good or bad... truth is... BOTH were drunk... regardless of anything else, he/they ran off in the water... he got out... drunk... she didn't... sure he left the scene... there was nobody else there... neither were fully responsible for what happened... other than being responsible for getting drunk in the first place... So, anybody that gets drunk, drives off a bridge, leaves someone in the car to drown, and waits 24 hours to call the police is not responsible for the death? He was driving. Whether she was drunk or not is irrelevant. She wasn't driving. He bailed out on someone in his car, that he drove into a canal, and let her die. Period. He should have been indicted and tried on manslaughter charges if nothing else. He wasn't because he was a Kennedy, and his family could get him out of nearly anything. And he had the LR media on his side. |
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Post by redleg on Jan 8, 2018 12:45:29 GMT -5
Have you ever seen a Democrat take responsibility for anything? Hell, Obama was blaming Bush for pretty much everything right up until Trump took the oath of office. Eight effing years of blaming Bush. And these people keep screaming about how irresponsible Trump is. And so far, Trump has been blaming Obama, Hillary, Bill Clinton, Jimmy Carter, and everybody he can think of for almost a year now... yep... The difference is, he's not only correct, but is repairing the damage all of those have done to the country. |
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Post by redleg on Jan 8, 2018 12:46:26 GMT -5
Haha. You're funny. Of course, you are right. The same rules would apply. The only difference is you wouldn't be doing all these contortions to try to deflect blame. And the republican would be guilty of murder. Since when is the truth and facts... funny?... and please feel free to point out the f***ing "contortions" that I am doing to deflect blame... sure he' was guilty... just as much as she was... people shouldn't get drunk and drive... or ride with someone who is... and that goes for Democrats as well as Republicans... What, exactly, was she "guilty" of? Drunk in public? Even real people don't get busted for that if they are in a vehicle and not driving. |
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Post by breakingbad on Jan 8, 2018 13:11:13 GMT -5
How do you know she was drunk? It's a safe assumption that Teddy was, even though he denies it. But an autopsy was never performed on Mary Jo. Oh, that's right, you were probably at the party. How did you guess?... Actually I HAVE been with Ted Kennedy when alcohol was being consumed... (I don't expect you to believe that but you know what I don't give, I'm sure)... and I've been to some of those "celebrations" like the one they were attending... and I'd bet my ass that both were participating in the fun... and even if she wasn't, she should not have been riding with him... and if she was "trapped" in the car, it was likely beyond his ability to get her out since he had been drinking himself... Remarkable! It's too bad Jonathan Goldsmith already has the title. |
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Post by aboutwell on Jan 8, 2018 14:39:09 GMT -5
Don't forget... this is a "MOVIE"... somebody's opinion... good or bad... truth is... BOTH were drunk... regardless of anything else, he/they ran off in the water... he got out... drunk... she didn't... sure he left the scene... there was nobody else there... neither were fully responsible for what happened... other than being responsible for getting drunk in the first place... So, anybody that gets drunk, drives off a bridge, leaves someone in the car to drown, and waits 24 hours to call the police is not responsible for the death? He was driving. Whether she was drunk or not is irrelevant. She wasn't driving. He bailed out on someone in his car, that he drove into a canal, and let her die. Period. He should have been indicted and tried on manslaughter charges if nothing else. He wasn't because he was a Kennedy, and his family could get him out of nearly anything. And he had the LR media on his side. Word is, Redleg... that she was trapped in the car... and even after several attempts, he could not remove her from it... likely she drowned during that period of time... and she was in the car with him voluntarily... And are you sure it was 24 hours before he reported it to anyone?... ".....the story of what happened that night and why it took Kennedy some ten hours to report the accident to the local Edgartown police....."... Which is it? |
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Post by Ranger John on Jan 8, 2018 17:31:30 GMT -5
How did you guess?... Actually I HAVE been with Ted Kennedy when alcohol was being consumed... (I don't expect you to believe that but you know what I don't give, I'm sure)... and I've been to some of those "celebrations" like the one they were attending... and I'd bet my ass that both were participating in the fun... and even if she wasn't, she should not have been riding with him... and if she was "trapped" in the car, it was likely beyond his ability to get her out since he had been drinking himself... Remarkable! It's too bad Jonathan Goldsmith already has the title. I think you’re confusing the Most Interesting Man in the World with Walter Mitty. |
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Post by kemmer on Jan 8, 2018 23:28:20 GMT -5
I think Aboutwell's right about it being "only" 10 hours. Of course, he didn't call the police. He called his lawyer.
And, yes, I suspect he spent those 10 hours sobering up. I absolutely know that if he'd been simple Joe Nobody, he would have faced manslaughter charges-- or, at least, an investigation. Count him amongst the "rich boys" who make ordinary folks cynical about the justice system.
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Post by aboutwell on Jan 9, 2018 8:05:56 GMT -5
Be careful there, Kemmer... I'm never right with some of these folks... and Kennedy did serve a (short) sentence for leaving the scene of the accident... short, no doubt, because the court considered the fact that he was likely intoxicated... and not fully responsible for his actions... which also likely was a factor in being successful with a manslaughter charge...
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Post by aboutwell on Jan 9, 2018 8:07:49 GMT -5
How did you guess?... Actually I HAVE been with Ted Kennedy when alcohol was being consumed... (I don't expect you to believe that but you know what I don't give, I'm sure)... and I've been to some of those "celebrations" like the one they were attending... and I'd bet my ass that both were participating in the fun... and even if she wasn't, she should not have been riding with him... and if she was "trapped" in the car, it was likely beyond his ability to get her out since he had been drinking himself... Remarkable! It's too bad Jonathan Goldsmith already has the title. What's the problem?... some of us get out more than others do... no need for you to be jealous... |
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Post by aboutwell on Jan 9, 2018 8:08:15 GMT -5
Remarkable! It's too bad Jonathan Goldsmith already has the title. I think you’re confusing the Most Interesting Man in the World with Walter Mitty. You either... |
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Post by aboutwell on Jan 9, 2018 8:17:38 GMT -5
Just out of curiosity, how many of you have read True Compass?... or Death at Chappaquiddick?...
If I'm wrong... forgive me for thinking... not...
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Actually I HAVE been with Ted Kennedy when alcohol was being consumed... (I don't expect you to believe that but you know what I don't give, I'm sure)... and I've been to some of those "celebrations" like the one they were attending... and I'd bet my ass that both were participating in the fun... and even if she wasn't, she should not have been riding with him... and if she was "trapped" in the car, it was likely beyond his ability to get her out since he had been drinking himself... 