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Post by Ranger John on Feb 6, 2018 19:40:12 GMT -5
Why not ask some FBI agents how they feel about being called partisan? The ones that I have spoken with are vehement that there is no partisanship in how things are carried out. People may have their own viewpoints, but they generally don't interfere with their work. I believe it was McCabe who said he did not even vote to avoid any appearance of partisanship. But keep your head buried and continue to ignore your own unthinking partisanship. It's what we expect from you. Anything for the right and to keep our country moving backward. You mean like Andy McCarthy? The former federal prosecutor that you are convinced is just a partisan hack? Strzok and Page had their partisanship exposed in their text messages. Ohr's wife was working for FusionGPS. McCabe was forced out because of his blatant partisanship. And really, that is the problem with many partisans. They don't realize they have a problem, because they're in too deep.
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Post by palealeman on Feb 6, 2018 20:24:59 GMT -5
Keep trying, RJ. You're doing nothing more than fueling the Trump agenda and moving our country to a totalitarian form of government. That's the goal of Trump, Bannon, and the right.
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Post by Ranger John on Feb 7, 2018 7:50:06 GMT -5
Keep trying, RJ. You're doing nothing more than fueling the Trump agenda and moving our country to a totalitarian form of government. That's the goal of Trump, Bannon, and the right. Based on what evidence? Reality is the media has been incredibly tough on this so-called totalitarian President, and other than complain about it, Trump has done nothing. The media has had unprecedented access to this President, and so far as we can tell, he hasn't even wiretapped the AP or James Rosen liked Obama did. He has also been rolling back a lot of regulations... the opposite of a totalitarian form of government. Indeed, relatively speaking, Obama acted far more like a dictator than Trump has.
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Post by redleg on Feb 7, 2018 9:49:01 GMT -5
Because neither Mueller nor the FBI have been running a "tight ship". There have been a crazy number of anonymous source stories in the media. Granted, many of them have been proven bogus. But the previous administration FBI was also known for smearing Republicans and fabricating phony investigations. Absolute BS, RJ. If you think that the FBI is a partisan organization, you're showing how much of an unthinking partisan you really are. And you show that Trump is winning -- discredit the press and set yourself as the only source of truth, discredit law enforcement -- and pretty soon we have the totalitarian government that you seem to want so much. Pathetic. Please learn to read, think, think critically. As an organization? Probably not. However, the "leadership" has proven to be nothing but useful idiots for the Party of the KKK. Comey, head of the FBI under The Puppet, conducting an "investigation" of The Felon that was designed solely to clear her to run for President, meaning he ignored the felonies she committed. Allowing the DNC to simply tell them 'no' when they claimed their server was hacked, and instead relied on a company hand picked by the Party of the KKK. Allowing the Party of the KKK to keep obvious spies on the payroll as "IT specialists", even after they were banned from all Congressional computer systems. Using a faked 'dossier' to get a FISA warrant to spy on a political campaign. Yes, the top layer of the FBI are partisan hacks, and just like in a swamp, the scum rose to the top.
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Post by redleg on Feb 7, 2018 9:51:55 GMT -5
Why not ask some FBI agents how they feel about being called partisan? The ones that I have spoken with are vehement that there is no partisanship in how things are carried out. People may have their own viewpoints, but they generally don't interfere with their work. I believe it was McCabe who said he did not even vote to avoid any appearance of partisanship. But keep your head buried and continue to ignore your own unthinking partisanship. It's what we expect from you. Anything for the right and to keep our country moving backward. As is typical of your Communist bent and brethren, you insist that there is guilt by association, unless that bites your masters. Just because the leadership is corrupt, and needs to be prosecuted, doesn't mean that that same taint is applied to the rank and file. Of course the average agent is probably clean, hard working, and diligent. Of course, for the average agent, they have no advantage in being politically corrupt. That is reserved for the scum at the top.
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Post by redleg on Feb 7, 2018 9:54:03 GMT -5
Keep trying, RJ. You're doing nothing more than fueling the Trump agenda and moving our country to a totalitarian form of government. That's the goal of Trump, Bannon, and the right. Ah, typically Party of the KKK. Rooting out corruption is bad, when that corruption helps the Party of the KKK. It leads to a totalitarian government, while unrestricted spying on American citizens is fine, because that means they can target political opposition. No wonder you are a Communist, you think the state is god, and anyone that doesn't believe that is a traitor. Got it.
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Post by redleg on Feb 7, 2018 9:55:10 GMT -5
Keep trying, RJ. You're doing nothing more than fueling the Trump agenda and moving our country to a totalitarian form of government. That's the goal of Trump, Bannon, and the right. Based on what evidence? Reality is the media has been incredibly tough on this so-called totalitarian President, and other than complain about it, Trump has done nothing. The media has had unprecedented access to this President, and so far as we can tell, he hasn't even wiretapped the AP or James Rosen liked Obama did. He has also been rolling back a lot of regulations... the opposite of a totalitarian form of government. Indeed, relatively speaking, Obama acted far more like a dictator than Trump has. He also hasn't hacked into a reporter's computer and erased everything she was working on, like The Puppet's regime did.
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Post by palealeman on Feb 7, 2018 10:06:27 GMT -5
Keep trying, RJ. You're doing nothing more than fueling the Trump agenda and moving our country to a totalitarian form of government. That's the goal of Trump, Bannon, and the right. Based on what evidence? Reality is the media has been incredibly tough on this so-called totalitarian President, and other than complain about it, Trump has done nothing. The media has had unprecedented access to this President, and so far as we can tell, he hasn't even wiretapped the AP or James Rosen liked Obama did. He has also been rolling back a lot of regulations... the opposite of a totalitarian form of government. Indeed, relatively speaking, Obama acted far more like a dictator than Trump has. Based on your posts, RJ. Read what your post here. The press can't be trusted. That's one of the first steps in moving toward totalitarianism. Distrust law enforcement. That's another big step. Both of these are what Trump is doing, following the Bannon playbook. Do a search on Bannon and learn about the fascist whose writings he promotes.
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Post by Ranger John on Feb 7, 2018 10:27:31 GMT -5
Based on what evidence? Reality is the media has been incredibly tough on this so-called totalitarian President, and other than complain about it, Trump has done nothing. The media has had unprecedented access to this President, and so far as we can tell, he hasn't even wiretapped the AP or James Rosen liked Obama did. He has also been rolling back a lot of regulations... the opposite of a totalitarian form of government. Indeed, relatively speaking, Obama acted far more like a dictator than Trump has. Based on your posts, RJ. Read what your post here. The press can't be trusted. That's one of the first steps in moving toward totalitarianism. Lack of trust in the press is also the natural consequence when the press repeatedly, and with apparent malice, reports falsehoods. That isn't on Trump or the GOP, it's on the press. You don't really believe a loss of trust in law enforcement and the government in general is a big step towards having the power to use law enforcement and the government to impose a leader's dictatorial will on the people, do you? Because concern about law enforcement and the larger government abusing it's power is generally what leads to the people trying to take power AWAY from the government. Not give it more. Desiring to EXPAND the government is the path to dictatorship. And it's you and the left that are all about that.
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Post by palealeman on Feb 7, 2018 19:04:22 GMT -5
Never studied a lot of polysci, did you, RJ? Maybe you should. But keep drinking the right-wing kool-aid.
You continue to claim, in your unthinking partisanship and Trumpian agenda, that the press is inaccurate. The only think inaccurate is Trump taking good reporting and, because he disagrees with it, calls it fake news. Most of what he calls fake is actually accurate. Most of what he calls accurate is patently false. What's the count, over 2,000 false statements in his first year alone? But you continue to defend a known liar and sexual preditor.
Do a search on what makes a dictator. You might be surprised. Trump is following the playbook. You just don't have the common sense to see it. Again, unthinking, uncritical partisanship. What we've come to expect.
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Post by Ranger John on Feb 7, 2018 20:14:31 GMT -5
Never studied a lot of polysci, did you, RJ? Maybe you should. But keep drinking the right-wing kool-aid. You continue to claim, in your unthinking partisanship and Trumpian agenda, that the press is inaccurate. The only think inaccurate is Trump taking good reporting and, because he disagrees with it, calls it fake news. Most of what he calls fake is actually accurate. Most of what he calls accurate is patently false. What's the count, over 2,000 false statements in his first year alone? But you continue to defend a known liar and sexual preditor. Do a search on what makes a dictator. You might be surprised. Trump is following the playbook. You just don't have the common sense to see it. Again, unthinking, uncritical partisanship. What we've come to expect. Obama was the dictator... Ruling with his pen and his phone. Trump has been, if anything. A pro-freedom president. 2000 false statements? You mean opinions the media doesn't like? The New York Times alone has probably published at least that many false statements about Trump. The reporting just on the whole Russia thing has not only been false, it has been almost comically so.
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Post by palealeman on Feb 8, 2018 9:26:00 GMT -5
We'll see just who is spewing false information when Mr. Mueller issues his findings and, perhaps, additional indictments.
And the false statements from the President aren't opinions. How many people were on the Mall? The President is a known liar. If you refuse to admit that, you do nothing but continue to show your unthinking partisan bias.
And I'm waiting for your posts defending Rob Porter. When will they start?
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Post by redleg on Feb 8, 2018 10:02:53 GMT -5
Based on what evidence? Reality is the media has been incredibly tough on this so-called totalitarian President, and other than complain about it, Trump has done nothing. The media has had unprecedented access to this President, and so far as we can tell, he hasn't even wiretapped the AP or James Rosen liked Obama did. He has also been rolling back a lot of regulations... the opposite of a totalitarian form of government. Indeed, relatively speaking, Obama acted far more like a dictator than Trump has. Based on your posts, RJ. Read what your post here. The press can't be trusted. That's one of the first steps in moving toward totalitarianism. Distrust law enforcement. That's another big step. Both of these are what Trump is doing, following the Bannon playbook. Do a search on Bannon and learn about the fascist whose writings he promotes. tThey did that to themselves. They have lied, used spurious attacks, and omitted anything that is positive for the President. Nothing they print or broadcast can be trusted, because they are not 'media', they are propagandists. They have a goal, to initiate a coup, because a felon, who they support, didn't win. They are Communists, and are intent on imposing a Communist totalitarian state, because they see themselves as controlling that state.
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Post by redleg on Feb 8, 2018 10:06:06 GMT -5
Based on your posts, RJ. Read what your post here. The press can't be trusted. That's one of the first steps in moving toward totalitarianism. Lack of trust in the press is also the natural consequence when the press repeatedly, and with apparent malice, reports falsehoods. That isn't on Trump or the GOP, it's on the press. You don't really believe a loss of trust in law enforcement and the government in general is a big step towards having the power to use law enforcement and the government to impose a leader's dictatorial will on the people, do you? Because concern about law enforcement and the larger government abusing it's power is generally what leads to the people trying to take power AWAY from the government. Not give it more. Desiring to EXPAND the government is the path to dictatorship. And it's you and the left that are all about that. Not to mention that it was The Puppet that lied about the police in Ferguson, gave the rioters tacit permission to attack them, sympathized more with those shooting police officers than with the police, politicized the FBI and the ATF, armed Mexican drug gangs, and started nationalizing all the police departments, because they weren't "empathetic" enough to the thugs, druggies, rapists, and murderers that are the primary constituency of the Party of the KKK.
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Post by redleg on Feb 8, 2018 10:08:38 GMT -5
Never studied a lot of polysci, did you, RJ? Maybe you should. But keep drinking the right-wing kool-aid. You continue to claim, in your unthinking partisanship and Trumpian agenda, that the press is inaccurate. The only think inaccurate is Trump taking good reporting and, because he disagrees with it, calls it fake news. Most of what he calls fake is actually accurate. Most of what he calls accurate is patently false. What's the count, over 2,000 false statements in his first year alone? But you continue to defend a known liar and sexual preditor. Do a search on what makes a dictator. You might be surprised. Trump is following the playbook. You just don't have the common sense to see it. Again, unthinking, uncritical partisanship. What we've come to expect. Really? How many stories has CNN had to walk back, just in the last 6 months or so, because they flat out lied, or relied on Party of the KKK 'leaks' that were lies? Like Kushner getting the leaked emails before they were published? Or Kushner was "colluding with the Russians" because he met with a lawyer for 7 minutes or so, when it was Shiffless that was actually trying to collude? When you lie as often as the fake news has lied about Trump, you lose credibility pretty fast, and that's exactly what they have been doing.
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Post by Ranger John on Feb 8, 2018 10:09:33 GMT -5
We'll see just who is spewing false information when Mr. Mueller issues his findings and, perhaps, additional indictments. And the false statements from the President aren't opinions. How many people were on the Mall? The President is a known liar. If you refuse to admit that, you do nothing but continue to show your unthinking partisan bias. And I'm waiting for your posts defending Rob Porter. When will they start? Yes, Trump lied about that. But no one cares how many people were at the inauguration. Well... no one who isn't a raging partisan loon. It's utterly meaningless to everyone else.
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Post by redleg on Feb 8, 2018 10:10:15 GMT -5
We'll see just who is spewing false information when Mr. Mueller issues his findings and, perhaps, additional indictments. And the false statements from the President aren't opinions. How many people were on the Mall? The President is a known liar. If you refuse to admit that, you do nothing but continue to show your unthinking partisan bias. And I'm waiting for your posts defending Rob Porter. When will they start? Why will he bother to issue indictments, when any judge not a Party of the KKK puppet will throw them out for illegal gathering of evidence? When the entire basis for the investigation is a fake document, created out of whole cloth by the Party of the KKK, in collusion with the Russians, you don't have a case.
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Post by palealeman on Feb 8, 2018 10:19:06 GMT -5
We'll see just who is spewing false information when Mr. Mueller issues his findings and, perhaps, additional indictments. And the false statements from the President aren't opinions. How many people were on the Mall? The President is a known liar. If you refuse to admit that, you do nothing but continue to show your unthinking partisan bias. And I'm waiting for your posts defending Rob Porter. When will they start? Yes, Trump lied about that. But no one cares how many people were at the inauguration. Well... no one who isn't a raging partisan loon. It's utterly meaningless to everyone else. The issue isn't just the size of the crowd, RJ. It's the whole tenor of Trump conversations. He lies about just about everything. It's the old "How do you know if he's lying? His lips are moving" thing. But if you, in your unthinking partisanship, thinks Trump's lies are utterly meaningless to everyone, well, . . . .
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Post by Ranger John on Feb 8, 2018 10:24:43 GMT -5
Yes, Trump lied about that. But no one cares how many people were at the inauguration. Well... no one who isn't a raging partisan loon. It's utterly meaningless to everyone else. The issue isn't just the size of the crowd, RJ. It's the whole tenor of Trump conversations. He lies about just about everything. It's the old "How do you know if he's lying? His lips are moving" thing. But if you, in your unthinking partisanship, thinks Trump's lies are utterly meaningless to everyone, well, . . . . That's EVERY politician. If this was an issue for the Democrats, they should have thought a lot harder and a lot longer about running someone less legendary for her lies than Hillary Clinton. The Trump lie you offered IS completely meaningless to everyone. It is over a triviality that has no real-world importance. Unlike, for example, "if you like your doctor, you can keep your doctor."
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Post by palealeman on Feb 8, 2018 12:11:14 GMT -5
The point, which you refuse to acknowledge in your unthinking partisanship, is that President Trump has shown himself to be less than truthful during the last year. Yes, some of the things he has lied about are trivial -- like the size of the crowd. But then there's his lies about the tax cuts -- which, he claimed, would not benefit him at all.
I know you don't trust the various fact checker sites (again, in your unthinking partisanship). But they do show a pattern -- of a President who can't be trusted in anything he says. I's unfortunate that unthinking partisans like you continue to fawn on every word he says and accpet it as the Gospel truth.
By the way, and just out of curiosity -- in prior posts you have indicated that you're still working -- you've mentioned your office and some office behavior. Does that mean that you're doing your posting on company time? And, before you ask, I'm retired and at home. I have plenty of time to post without stealing time from my employer.
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Post by Ranger John on Feb 8, 2018 12:33:32 GMT -5
The point, which you refuse to acknowledge in your unthinking partisanship, is that President Trump has shown himself to be less than truthful during the last year. Yes, some of the things he has lied about are trivial -- like the size of the crowd. But then there's his lies about the tax cuts -- which, he claimed, would not benefit him at all. I know you don't trust the various fact checker sites (again, in your unthinking partisanship). But they do show a pattern -- of a President who can't be trusted in anything he says. I's unfortunate that unthinking partisans like you continue to fawn on every word he says and accpet it as the Gospel truth. By the way, and just out of curiosity -- in prior posts you have indicated that you're still working -- you've mentioned your office and some office behavior. Does that mean that you're doing your posting on company time? And, before you ask, I'm retired and at home. I have plenty of time to post without stealing time from my employer. Are you really so consumed with blind rage, you need to make this about me? WTF is wrong with you?
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Post by breakingbad on Feb 8, 2018 16:12:15 GMT -5
The point, which you refuse to acknowledge in your unthinking partisanship, is that President Trump has shown himself to be less than truthful during the last year. Yes, some of the things he has lied about are trivial -- like the size of the crowd. But then there's his lies about the tax cuts -- which, he claimed, would not benefit him at all. I know you don't trust the various fact checker sites (again, in your unthinking partisanship). But they do show a pattern -- of a President who can't be trusted in anything he says. I's unfortunate that unthinking partisans like you continue to fawn on every word he says and accpet it as the Gospel truth. By the way, and just out of curiosity -- in prior posts you have indicated that you're still working -- you've mentioned your office and some office behavior. Does that mean that you're doing your posting on company time? And, before you ask, I'm retired and at home. I have plenty of time to post without stealing time from my employer. Are you really so consumed with blind rage, you need to make this about me? WTF is wrong with you? Is that a rhetorical question?
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Post by redleg on Feb 8, 2018 21:29:01 GMT -5
Yes, Trump lied about that. But no one cares how many people were at the inauguration. Well... no one who isn't a raging partisan loon. It's utterly meaningless to everyone else. The issue isn't just the size of the crowd, RJ. It's the whole tenor of Trump conversations. He lies about just about everything. It's the old "How do you know if he's lying? His lips are moving" thing. But if you, in your unthinking partisanship, thinks Trump's lies are utterly meaningless to everyone, well, . . . . Really? Has he said "if you like your doctor, you can keep your doctor" yet? How about "Benghazi was a demonstration against a video"? Or "I never speak to the FBI or DOJ about investigations"? Nearly everything your fake news has screamed "Trump lied" about has turned out to be absolutely true. He was being spied on. He did get over 3% growth. He is trying to build his wall. He did defeat ISIS, while The Puppet was completely content to "contain" them.
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Post by redleg on Feb 8, 2018 21:31:20 GMT -5
The point, which you refuse to acknowledge in your unthinking partisanship, is that President Trump has shown himself to be less than truthful during the last year. Yes, some of the things he has lied about are trivial -- like the size of the crowd. But then there's his lies about the tax cuts -- which, he claimed, would not benefit him at all. I know you don't trust the various fact checker sites (again, in your unthinking partisanship). But they do show a pattern -- of a President who can't be trusted in anything he says. I's unfortunate that unthinking partisans like you continue to fawn on every word he says and accpet it as the Gospel truth. By the way, and just out of curiosity -- in prior posts you have indicated that you're still working -- you've mentioned your office and some office behavior. Does that mean that you're doing your posting on company time? And, before you ask, I'm retired and at home. I have plenty of time to post without stealing time from my employer. Is he an American citizen? Then the tax cuts will affect him. Unlike The Puppet 'exempting' Congress from Puppettax, because that meant he was exempt as well. The "fact checking" sites are all propaganda sites for the Party of the KKK. They have been proven wrong far more often that they have been proven correct.
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